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Blizzard Previews the New Talent Trees in the New Dragonflight Talent System

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited June 2022 in News & Features Discussion

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  • ashiru_1978ashiru_1978 Member RarePosts: 818
    For me Retail WoW is no longer WoW. In my opinion the downgrade of WoW became with TBC when they gave Shaman to the Alliance and Paladin to the Horde. WoTLK only further paved that philosophy. When CATA was introduced I went from utterly excited to utterly disappointed and this is when WoW seized being WoW for me and became another game that only remotely carried its characteristics.

    As I now treat Retail WoW as its own entity, I can see its ups and downs without the benefit of bias and I am completely indifferent about what goes on anymore. I'm neither happy or sad, just a distant observer who plays Vanilla private servers.
    UNH0LYEV1LTokken
  • flippingeckflippingeck Newbie CommonPosts: 7

    ashiru_1978 said:

    For me Retail WoW is no longer WoW. In my opinion the downgrade of WoW became with TBC when they gave Shaman to the Alliance and Paladin to the Horde. WoTLK only further paved that philosophy. When CATA was introduced I went from utterly excited to utterly disappointed and this is when WoW seized being WoW for me and became another game that only remotely carried its characteristics.



    As I now treat Retail WoW as its own entity, I can see its ups and downs without the benefit of bias and I am completely indifferent about what goes on anymore. I'm neither happy or sad, just a distant observer who plays Vanilla private servers.




    I think you mean ceased not seized but yeah I agree with most of what you have to say . I was OK with Wrath but by the time Cata came out the game just lost its mojo and never really got it back .
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675

    flippingeck said:



    ashiru_1978 said:


    For me Retail WoW is no longer WoW. In my opinion the downgrade of WoW became with TBC when they gave Shaman to the Alliance and Paladin to the Horde. WoTLK only further paved that philosophy. When CATA was introduced I went from utterly excited to utterly disappointed and this is when WoW seized being WoW for me and became another game that only remotely carried its characteristics.





    As I now treat Retail WoW as its own entity, I can see its ups and downs without the benefit of bias and I am completely indifferent about what goes on anymore. I'm neither happy or sad, just a distant observer who plays Vanilla private servers.








    I think you mean ceased not seized but yeah I agree with most of what you have to say . I was OK with Wrath but by the time Cata came out the game just lost its mojo and never really got it back .



    I'd say that the thing that really started to kill it in cata in particular was lfr and not really because of lfr itself, but just the beginning of 103989438092138 different difficulties to follow it. One thing I think devs never take into account is visual nausium and by that I mean just seeing the same thing over and over regardless of difficulty leading to the decline of motivation to do said content. If there's nothing that changes visually from LFR (in terms of surroundings and gear as well) to say Heroic, more people wont push past lfr.
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483

    flippingeck said:



    ashiru_1978 said:


    For me Retail WoW is no longer WoW. In my opinion the downgrade of WoW became with TBC when they gave Shaman to the Alliance and Paladin to the Horde. WoTLK only further paved that philosophy. When CATA was introduced I went from utterly excited to utterly disappointed and this is when WoW seized being WoW for me and became another game that only remotely carried its characteristics.





    As I now treat Retail WoW as its own entity, I can see its ups and downs without the benefit of bias and I am completely indifferent about what goes on anymore. I'm neither happy or sad, just a distant observer who plays Vanilla private servers.








    I think you mean ceased not seized but yeah I agree with most of what you have to say . I was OK with Wrath but by the time Cata came out the game just lost its mojo and never really got it back .



    this 100% Cata ended my fun for some reason, LK was amazing, TBC was the best time I ever had in gaming
    blamo2000Tokken
  • blamo2000blamo2000 Member RarePosts: 1,130
    edited June 2022

    this 100% Cata ended my fun for some reason, LK was amazing, TBC was the best time I ever had in gaming




    Almost the same for me. Loved vanilla, TBC, and WotLK. I think Wrath beats out TBC due to having more. Glyphs, and probably the best version of racials and profession uniques. The options to mess around were crazy. I had so much fun in the arena, even if we got stomped on by people much better than us. I'm having so much fun since the classic servers came out. Just like the good old days. Real mmorpgs to play again.


    I'm actually kind of mad they are adding an interesting talent system back to retail. I'm going to have to buy and check this out now. I've never been able to play multiple games at once. I'm either all in or all out. I writ off retail ever since they stripped it down and made for dummies that hate rpgs back during cata. Ghost crawler single-handedly ruined mmorpgs, or at least was the prominent face of ruinng them and catering to small minded children that hate thinking and choices and rpg elements.
    Tokken
  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,494
    edited October 2022
    For me the last gasp of what i found fun in the game ended with the farming activates in Mist of Pandaria; I'm a harvest moon/farming/life sim nut, so i ate that up with a gardening hoe.

    I also loved the fishing challenges to death in WoW, like really loved them, but after that was exhausted i looked to newer mmo's that as well- did it better (like FFXIV)


    There are so many more modern games that at a individual level; happen to just do certain aspects of WoW better, but wouldn't it be nice if WoW tried to outdo itself for once?

    That's what i feel like keeps me from ever returning, is that the game just appears to be okay with doing the absolute bare minimum to change or innovate; it takes no risks to try and transcend itself into something better.


    Fishing on Gilgamesh since 2013
    Fishing on Bronzebeard since 2005
    Fishing in RL since 1992
    Born with a fishing rod in my hand in 1979
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