I must admit after FO76 I am concerned about anything Howard is at the helm for, but lets see what SF is like next year, that will give us a decent handle on what Bethesda can produce these days.
Haha, yeah I'm not sure I'll be around or gaming if I am. I feel like 6.5 years from pre-production to release is just too long anymore. Technology moves so fast now.
I hope they've been writing a new engine or adapting an off the shelf engine like Unreal to suit their open world needs (unlikely lol). They need something that allows them to reduce their production time. Oh well, wishful thinking.
They have overhauled the Creation Engine and now call it Creation Engine 2, animation, rendering, procedural generation, pathing etc., part of the Starfield development time was devoted to overhauling the engine. This engine is now confirmed to be used for Elder Scrolls 6 as well with a few tweaks and *most* likely fallout 5 which will hopefully speed things up although they were never fast developers to begin with.
The Bethesda forums are gone now but there used to be a few threads showing Bethesda development timeframes for games from Pre-production – Production - Launch – Bug Fix (haha go modders)- DLC release was generally 3.5-4 years once they left pre-production (they had the completed engine then).
Even the best esti-guesstimates from these fans are predicting 2027 for Elder Scrolls 6 release (this does sync up with Howard saying it would be 15+ years for the next Elder Scrolls game after Skyrim in 2011). That would put Fallout 5 out at 2030 /2032 if their previous design timeframe of 3.5-4 years is kept (Starfield not- withstanding, new IP and they overhauled engine) which puts it 15+ years after Fallout 4 in 2015.
A real concern as others mentioned is will, I still be interested / capable of gaming, I will be late 50’s in a decade and planning retirement so should still be above ground for Fallout 5 (will this website? Seems there are less and less long-term posters all the time). Fallout 6 maybe 15 years after Fallout 5? that’s another matter that may have to be left to descendants, maybe with biochips in their heads.
I must admit after FO76 I am concerned about anything Howard is at the helm for, but lets see what SF is like next year, that will give us a decent handle on what Bethesda can produce these days.
It could be worse, 10 years for a crowdfunded game may still net you mostly artwork, with these guys (and Howard at the helm) I am sure there will be 2 released games in the next decade (roughly) which will at the minimum moderately entertain me, even Fallout 76 gave me a handful of months entertainment anyway.
I hope I have some friendly nurses and orderlies in my old folks warehouse to help me play ES6 and FO5.
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I will admit, I don't have high hopes. I feel like the series has been getting progressively better in terms of mechanics (but still very shallow), but getting progressively worse in terms of world design.
I'd love it if Bethesda moved the series towards a more sandbox philosophy too. There have been occasional sandbox elements in previous games, but they were ultimately still themepark RPGs. They were just non-linear themeparks.
One of my biggest requests for ES6: no scaling. Scaling ruined my experiences of both Oblivion and Skyrim, to the point where if I want to play either, I now "cheese" the game for the first few hours purely so I can get past the scaling nonsense.
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They have overhauled the Creation Engine and now call it Creation Engine 2, animation, rendering, procedural generation, pathing etc., part of the Starfield development time was devoted to overhauling the engine. This engine is now confirmed to be used for Elder Scrolls 6 as well with a few tweaks and *most* likely fallout 5 which will hopefully speed things up although they were never fast developers to begin with.
The Bethesda forums are gone now but there used to be a few threads showing Bethesda development timeframes for games from Pre-production – Production - Launch – Bug Fix (haha go modders)- DLC release was generally 3.5-4 years once they left pre-production (they had the completed engine then).
Even the best esti-guesstimates from these fans are predicting 2027 for Elder Scrolls 6 release (this does sync up with Howard saying it would be 15+ years for the next Elder Scrolls game after Skyrim in 2011). That would put Fallout 5 out at 2030 /2032 if their previous design timeframe of 3.5-4 years is kept (Starfield not- withstanding, new IP and they overhauled engine) which puts it 15+ years after Fallout 4 in 2015.
A real concern as others mentioned is will, I still be interested / capable of gaming, I will be late 50’s in a decade and planning retirement so should still be above ground for Fallout 5 (will this website? Seems there are less and less long-term posters all the time). Fallout 6 maybe 15 years after Fallout 5? that’s another matter that may have to be left to descendants, maybe with biochips in their heads.
It could be worse, 10 years for a crowdfunded game may still net you mostly artwork, with these guys (and Howard at the helm) I am sure there will be 2 released games in the next decade (roughly) which will at the minimum moderately entertain me, even Fallout 76 gave me a handful of months entertainment anyway.
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