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Opinion: Starfield Is Not Next-Gen

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    edited June 2022
    Most of hfw looks nothing like your carefully chosen image. And you know it. This is definitely going in my comically bad reviews collection, great to see game hacks getting represented too these days. Oh wait, it sucks.
    This is not a review, it is an opinion piece about the graphics, but don't worry you are but one of a number of posters who seem to think it is.

    Oh and Welcome to the forums! :)
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936


    Sorry... I have had more than enough "pretty" games that scream NEXT-GEN!!!



    You say gameplay will be gameplay and just dismiss it... but at the end of the day, IMHO.. that is the ONLY thing that matters.



    This game is still really high on my list.




    While I don't agree that game play is everything, I think that this game is "just fine" on the graphics/art design scale.

    As for the article, why does a game have to be "next gen?"
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Sovrath said:


    Sorry... I have had more than enough "pretty" games that scream NEXT-GEN!!!



    You say gameplay will be gameplay and just dismiss it... but at the end of the day, IMHO.. that is the ONLY thing that matters.



    This game is still really high on my list.




    While I don't agree that game play is everything, I think that this game is "just fine" on the graphics/art design scale.

    As for the article, why does a game have to be "next gen?"
    It doesn't have to be next gen but author makes a valid point, Todd's been telling everyone this title is supposed to be yet some feel there's nothing really new here, especially on the engine or graphics frontier.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited June 2022
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:


    Sorry... I have had more than enough "pretty" games that scream NEXT-GEN!!!



    You say gameplay will be gameplay and just dismiss it... but at the end of the day, IMHO.. that is the ONLY thing that matters.



    This game is still really high on my list.




    While I don't agree that game play is everything, I think that this game is "just fine" on the graphics/art design scale.

    As for the article, why does a game have to be "next gen?"
    It doesn't have to be next gen but author makes a valid point, Todd's been telling everyone this title is supposed to be yet some feel there's nothing really new here, especially on the engine or graphics frontier.
    He hyped not so much the title specifically as being next gen but more so the "new and improved" engine. I see improvements but nothing that deserves "next gen" hype.
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Next-gen is just a buzzword, but if we wanted to be as objective as possible as to what next-gen means then next-gen has way more to do with whether or not your game is taking advantage of new technology that didn't exist last gen. For example, things like DirectStorage would be considered a next gen technology.

    How a game looks, honestly has very little to do with whether or not it's a next-gen game.
    So if some random, no-budget indie game uses std::bit_cast, which is new in C++20 and an officially safe way do to things that worked just as well before but were technically unsafe, does that make the game next-gen?

    Also, welcome to the forum.
  • eoloeeoloe Member RarePosts: 864
    Sovrath said:

    As for the article, why does a game have to be "next gen?"

    Simply for you to buy a new PC.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    Quizzical said:
    Next-gen is just a buzzword, but if we wanted to be as objective as possible as to what next-gen means then next-gen has way more to do with whether or not your game is taking advantage of new technology that didn't exist last gen. For example, things like DirectStorage would be considered a next gen technology.

    How a game looks, honestly has very little to do with whether or not it's a next-gen game.
    So if some random, no-budget indie game uses std::bit_cast, which is new in C++20 and an officially safe way do to things that worked just as well before but were technically unsafe, does that make the game next-gen?

    Also, welcome to the forum.
    Well spotted I missed one! You know that's a few new people, I am starting to wonder when this game gets an actual review will it get so many posts? I don't think so. :)
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:


    Sorry... I have had more than enough "pretty" games that scream NEXT-GEN!!!



    You say gameplay will be gameplay and just dismiss it... but at the end of the day, IMHO.. that is the ONLY thing that matters.



    This game is still really high on my list.




    While I don't agree that game play is everything, I think that this game is "just fine" on the graphics/art design scale.

    As for the article, why does a game have to be "next gen?"
    It doesn't have to be next gen but author makes a valid point, Todd's been telling everyone this title is supposed to be yet some feel there's nothing really new here, especially on the engine or graphics frontier.

    I guess we'll have to see what happens during game play. I don't think that "next gen" falls solely under graphics.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Sovrath said:
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:


    Sorry... I have had more than enough "pretty" games that scream NEXT-GEN!!!



    You say gameplay will be gameplay and just dismiss it... but at the end of the day, IMHO.. that is the ONLY thing that matters.



    This game is still really high on my list.




    While I don't agree that game play is everything, I think that this game is "just fine" on the graphics/art design scale.

    As for the article, why does a game have to be "next gen?"
    It doesn't have to be next gen but author makes a valid point, Todd's been telling everyone this title is supposed to be yet some feel there's nothing really new here, especially on the engine or graphics frontier.

    I guess we'll have to see what happens during game play. I don't think that "next gen" falls solely under graphics.
    Yeah, I made the same point earlier, but some weren't having any of it.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:


    Sorry... I have had more than enough "pretty" games that scream NEXT-GEN!!!



    You say gameplay will be gameplay and just dismiss it... but at the end of the day, IMHO.. that is the ONLY thing that matters.



    This game is still really high on my list.




    While I don't agree that game play is everything, I think that this game is "just fine" on the graphics/art design scale.

    As for the article, why does a game have to be "next gen?"
    It doesn't have to be next gen but author makes a valid point, Todd's been telling everyone this title is supposed to be yet some feel there's nothing really new here, especially on the engine or graphics frontier.

    I guess we'll have to see what happens during game play. I don't think that "next gen" falls solely under graphics.
    Yeah, I made the same point earlier, but some weren't having any of it.

    Well, I imagine, perhaps, how they deal with all those planets might be the next gen part. Among other things.

    I'll at least give it a try.


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  • adam_noxadam_nox Member UncommonPosts: 2,148
    lol at the guy saying a RDR2 char looked more detailed that aloy. god dang if only I had time to read the rest of these gems.

    btw, that aloy pic is taken in photo mode, it's not a great comparison.

  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    Thankfully, I'm not looking for this mythical 'Next Gen MMO'  It's like all of the photos of big foot or the loch ness monster.  It's always blurry and everyone debates whether it's real or fake.  Nobody ever finds it, and nobody can agree what it is.

    Next Gen MMO  Fun MMO with or without moving the needle.
  • CorebolCorebol Member UncommonPosts: 8
    It would be nice if this game ran on Windows 7 (or Linux) and was available on GOG.
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