NVidia already listed about 40 games that support it, plus both Unreal and Unity engines will get DLSS 3 support.
The question is how good DLSS3 and RTX 4000 GPUs actually are once reviewers get to test them, but it doesn't look like support will be too much of an issue.
I feel as though gpu advancements will slow down because I don’t see much need for that much power. Is the benefit to games worth it? Won’t it be more costly for developers to make such graphically demanding games? Higher prices all around…
Them prices be cray cray! It's like they didn't get the memo that eth mining is dead and scalpers wont really buying their stock.
A real 4080 16gb model at 1199 usd...doh.
Nvidia really needs to get knocked back down a peg like intel did tbh as they clearly are trying to keep the inflated scalper eth mining prices up and alive.
They really showing their scumminess, so maybe this is why evga said fudge this shit and quit on them.
Can't wait to see what absurd prices they want for the 4090.
They want starting at 1599$ usd for the 4090.
Remember these are for founder edition cards so 3rd party cards will be more expensive.
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EVGA's complaint wasn't about the end user prices. Their complaint was that what Nvidia charged them for the GPU was too close to the end user prices that they could charge, so EVGA couldn't make money. At exactly the same end user price but more of the money going to the board partner and less to Nvidia, EVGA would still be a happy Nvidia board partner.
That's a roundabout way of saying nvidia is charging too much with these prices so 3rd party cards will be a hard sell which is pretty much what I am saying.
These stupid prices need to come back down, gamers are now once again their primary target not cryptominers so these prices...lol
If the prices were lower like pre crytpo mining phase or closer to that 3rd party sellers could actually sell for more and have the prices still be reasonable.
These prices for founder cards are starting off super unreasonable right off the bat. Lets be real most gamers, or at least the average gamer, are not going to be able to or want to pay this much for these cards.
AMD has a crazy, crazy good opportunity here to kick nvidia really hard in the gonads.... I hope they take it.
Mining as a reason for high prices was only partially true. The main factor for the high prices is they were able to see how much people would really pay to "GET A CARD NOW!!!" and have adjusted all future pricing accordingly. The sheep who just couldn't handle waiting to a reasonably priced card are responsible for enabling NVIDIA and AMD to go all out on pricing from now on, because they know they'll sell regardless how much y'all bitch while putting it in the basket.
I got my 3060TI in the middle of the mining craze for retail price by simply sitting back and waiting, signing up on waiting lists with all the card distributors and finally hitting a jackpot on Newegg Shuffle. I can wait for the 5000 series.
The reason prices were so high was simply because due to pandemic and crypto craze the world ran out of production capacity. Once word's manufacturers combined failed to meet the demand, it was inevitable that prices must rise.
And there wasn't any conspiracy theory or similar behind it: The manufacturers just made a wrong prediction. Once it turned out they'd have needed more capacity it was too late to fix the situation since extra capacity takes years to build.
Never seen someone so eager to type paragraphs about things they don't know anything about.
That makes it sound like you're new to the Internet. Typing paragraphs about things that they know nothing about is a considerable fraction of what people do online.
The pricing on these cards is extreme. The new consumer dilemma: buy the newest top end video card, or buy an entire new PC with a last gen video card.
This is like saying "The new consumer dilemma: buy the newest top end car, or buy last year's best car."
Last generation (3000 series) is more than enough for years to come, even certain 1000/2000 GPUs are still viable, and all of 4000 series doesn't seem to be surpassing what they were selling 3000 for. The big chip shortage covid price hike was rough and all, but people should be excited about price drops and availability. NVIDIA says rasterization performance is up to two times faster thanks to the new architecture, it is a pretty impressive and complex hunk of metal that only enthusiasts, rich people, and your "must have the newest model of everything" types would really want or need.
Weird take, honestly.
More and more people are going with 4k monitors and this GPU will drive that monitor very well. The 1000/2000 series do not do that and even the 3000 series can't push the frames people want at high refresh rates.
Does this mean the prices of existing cards will drop? I've been considering getting a new one. I don't need the greatest, but I would like something a bit better than what I got in 2017.
The irony is as long as its not 4k gaming 1080ti is still best card for money/performance since before RTX.
Hope AMD will bring in something reasonable with their reveal of new gpu...
I bought the bullet and built a new pc over a year ago. Paid way too much but a replacement was needed. I won't be buying these 4xxx cards. Honestly, I was just looking at building a pc for one if my kids with these soon to be last series parts. I can get a 5600 at microcenter for 150 and there are some decent deals on gpu.
I really hope people don't buy these cards and Nvidia is forced to drop prices.
If intel can get arc drivers figured out maybe they can grab some low to midrange market share while Nvidia and AMD try to squeeze consumers. More competition is better for us.
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Does this mean the prices of existing cards will drop? I've been considering getting a new one. I don't need the greatest, but I would like something a bit better than what I got in 2017.
The irony is as long as its not 4k gaming 1080ti is still best card for money/performance since before RTX.
Hope AMD will bring in something reasonable with their reveal of new gpu...
Not really. A Radeon RX 6800 XT is a lot faster than a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. It also has more memory and had a lower launch MSRP. It's even available today for less than MSRP.
That doesn't mean that AMD did better than Nvidia. The 6800 XT launched several years later, and you expect that to bring considerable advantages. But it does mean that the 1080 Ti isn't still the best in price/performance.
This might be the first time in 20 years I go with AMD, the last time I went with an AMD card is when they were still ATi.
I am not a "team player" so to speak I get what ever is best for my needs and has the better price/performance. Last time I had an amd card was dual xfx 5770 gpu's then went gtx760 - 1060 but my 1060 died so I am back on my gtx760.....LOL
I will either buy a new AMD gpu depending on what nov 3 brings or like a 3080 but used as I think there will be lots of used one flooding the market in the next couple months. I know right now, this week, here in Canada I have seen some 3080 go for 600$-650$ cad (that's like 445$/ 482$ usd) so I am hoping this will come down a little more.
It's what I deplore in recent years, companies have gotten super greedy and price per performance has gone right down the drain big time.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Gone are the days of wondering if paying $300 for a video card will really get you much more FPS than buying a $150 video card I guess. Man... those prices!
Does this mean the prices of existing cards will drop? I've been considering getting a new one. I don't need the greatest, but I would like something a bit better than what I got in 2017.
The irony is as long as its not 4k gaming 1080ti is still best card for money/performance since before RTX.
Hope AMD will bring in something reasonable with their reveal of new gpu...
Not really. A Radeon RX 6800 XT is a lot faster than a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. It also has more memory and had a lower launch MSRP. It's even available today for less than MSRP.
That doesn't mean that AMD did better than Nvidia. The 6800 XT launched several years later, and you expect that to bring considerable advantages. But it does mean that the 1080 Ti isn't still the best in price/performance.
I like to use this site to find the best value per dollar when getting a graphics card.
Does this mean the prices of existing cards will drop? I've been considering getting a new one. I don't need the greatest, but I would like something a bit better than what I got in 2017.
The irony is as long as its not 4k gaming 1080ti is still best card for money/performance since before RTX.
Hope AMD will bring in something reasonable with their reveal of new gpu...
nah man 1080ti can be used for 4k, it just can't handle rtx. i know because I still use it for 4k gaming, but when it comes to rtx, I tried it the first time on control, the frame rate is only 10fps lol, but if you use it for gaming without rtx it's completely fine even with most of the newer game. of course the shadow reflection is not as pretty as with rtx but it's barely noticeable.
He nailed it. 18 months ago we laughed. Little did we know. Prophet Captains Workspace. The only thing he didn't see was Nvidia's intention to grow in the 3rd dimension - otherwise he was spot on!
Mining as a reason for high prices was only partially true. The main factor for the high prices is they were able to see how much people would really pay to "GET A CARD NOW!!!" and have adjusted all future pricing accordingly.
You don't think it had anything to do with supply and demand causing chip shortages, or covid fucking up international shipping, or inflation affecting the value of the dollar?
The sheep who just couldn't handle waiting to a reasonably priced card
are responsible for enabling NVIDIA and AMD to go all out on pricing
from now on, because they know they'll sell regardless how much y'all
bitch while putting it in the basket.
I got my 3060TI in the middle of the mining craze for retail price by
simply sitting back and waiting
The hypocrisy in this is off the charts Mr. Sheep, glad you avoided some scalpers but I don't think that's any correlation to current pricing.
Never seen someone so eager to type paragraphs about things they don't know anything about.
"herp-derp, I can't read, here is a link to an article that is completely irrelevant to everything we are talking about."
Again, you are wrong.
Naw you are the one wrong here. It's pretty frigging clear nvidia has gotten used to and loves these high prices gpu jumped to during the crypto mining craze/pandemic and has no intention of letting supply and demand work like it should and let prices go back down.
It's clear they are going to pull out every excuse to keep prices high.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Gone are the days of wondering if paying $300 for a video card will really get you much more FPS than buying a $150 video card I guess. Man... those prices!
That's still the case. The difference is that now, that $150 only gets you the bottom of the line from a few generations ago, and not even a current generation part.
The cheapest GeForce RTX 3000 series part on New Egg right now is a GeForce RTX 3050 for about $300. The most recent Nvidia card you can get for $150 or less is a GeForce GTX 1630, and yes, that's a lot slower than the RTX 3050.
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The question is how good DLSS3 and RTX 4000 GPUs actually are once reviewers get to test them, but it doesn't look like support will be too much of an issue.
And there wasn't any conspiracy theory or similar behind it: The manufacturers just made a wrong prediction. Once it turned out they'd have needed more capacity it was too late to fix the situation since extra capacity takes years to build.
(Yes, I realize that that's not what you meant.)
Weird take, honestly.
More and more people are going with 4k monitors and this GPU will drive that monitor very well. The 1000/2000 series do not do that and even the 3000 series can't push the frames people want at high refresh rates.
The irony is as long as its not 4k gaming 1080ti is still best card for money/performance since before RTX.
Hope AMD will bring in something reasonable with their reveal of new gpu...
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That doesn't mean that AMD did better than Nvidia. The 6800 XT launched several years later, and you expect that to bring considerable advantages. But it does mean that the 1080 Ti isn't still the best in price/performance.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
With Nvidia we could now see a new 'fastest' category: the fastest card to break (something) under its own weight.
At this rate, with the 90xx series you will probably no longer install your video card in a PC case, it will be the other way around.
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html
I just go down the list and find the best performance in the price range.
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
The cheapest GeForce RTX 3000 series part on New Egg right now is a GeForce RTX 3050 for about $300. The most recent Nvidia card you can get for $150 or less is a GeForce GTX 1630, and yes, that's a lot slower than the RTX 3050.
You know why I said I don't want a 450 W video card? If you didn't when I said it above, maybe now you do. It's not just about the electricity bill.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Errr... why are you replying to me? You're sure you didn't want to post it in response to someone else?