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The RPG Files: God of War Ragnarok Review | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited November 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageThe RPG Files: God of War Ragnarok Review | MMORPG.com

God of War Ragnarok follows up 2018's excellent installment in the franchise, putting players back in the shoes of Kratos. Big shoes to fill again, so does Ragnarok deliver a thrilling conclusion to the duology? Read on in our review.

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,426
    edited November 2022
    Nothing deserves a ten because gaming can never reach perfection, it just strives for it like any other form of entertainment or art.

    Indeed, having the Con of "Some might think the combat too similar to the previous game" rather makes a 10.0 out of the question.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Scot said:
    Nothing deserves a ten because gaming can never reach perfection, it just strives for it like any other form of entertainment or art.

    Indeed, having the Con of "Some might think the combat too similar to the previous game" rather makes a 10.0 out of the question.
    I don't believe in this definition at all. We should be rating things based on what humanity is actually capable of. A 10 is not literally perfect. A 10 is a genre-defining masterpiece that represents the best we understand we can achieve right now. It's the standard by which all others are judged until we do even better.

    Moreover, when we have determined something to be a masterpiece, something like "too similar to the previous iteration" shouldn't even be listed as a flaw. This is nothing more than penalizing someone for not breaking the wheel and building a new better wheel for the sake of it. Which is fine when we're talking about a reboot or a new franchise, but we should expect an existing franchise to build and improve on what it has already done. Which to my understanding is precisely what this is.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    DarkZorvanReturns said:

    Aeander said:


    Scot said:

    Nothing deserves a ten because gaming can never reach perfection, it just strives for it like any other form of entertainment or art.



    Indeed, having the Con of "Some might think the combat too similar to the previous game" rather makes a 10.0 out of the question.


    A 10 is a genre-defining masterpiece that represents the best we understand we can achieve right now. It's the standard by which all others are judged until we do even better.

    .



    And to me that definition is hogwash because games like AC: Odyssey and Horizon's: Zero Dawn make every GoW games' linear A to B gameplay second rate by default regardless of story or music. 
    And I don't agree with that. At all. Very few games have ever gotten better by bloating out an existing formula into an open world. You are how we got mediocrity.
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  • ElvocElvoc Member RarePosts: 549
    Well its good to know the second game is as good or better than the first one. I am looking forward to it even though im not sold on a $70 price tag, may wait for the holidays and get a little of a discount. Already have a huge backlog of games to catch up on.
  • giantessfangiantessfan Member UncommonPosts: 185
    As and Xbox fan congrats Playstaion but god damn that IGN comment section is a cesspool. Everyone has be divided on everything and no one is allow to have an opinion anymore and if you have a differing one than its automatically wrong.

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,426
    For me a 9.5+ is a "genre defining masterpiece", it does not have to be a 10 to be defined as such. More importantly the game is not even on the PC, so not even sure how it could get a 10, a 10 for PS perhaps? ;)
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,053
    edited November 2022
    I thought the first one, the 2018 reboot, was pretty good, not genre defining but very solid with amazing production values. The combat was good as in better then Darksiders but nowhere near games like Devil May Cry, let alone Bayonetta. I also thought their ‘one take’ vision was completely ruined by the clumsy inventory screen/management, an opportunity wasted.

    I will play this new one in due time but if it is only a slightly improved version of the first one I consider it nowhere near essential.

    /Cheers,
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  • ScaryboosterScarybooster Member UncommonPosts: 24
    A score is based on the perspective of the reviewer it is not meant to be literal or etched in stone. It is a person’s opinion not fact. While one person opinion is there is nothing perfect and no way to achieve perfection, another person accepts the beauty in front of them knowing there are several instances of perfection in life. To say this game is not perfect is true. To say it is not a 10 is an opinion and should be accepted as that not argued over. It is ok to have a difference of opinion. It is not ok to negate a persons opinion based on your perception of life. If you are upset this game is a 10 then give it a 5 in your head if it makes you feel better. Both scores are right.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,426
    Scarybooster said:
    A score is based on the perspective of the reviewer it is not meant to be literal or etched in stone. It is a person’s opinion not fact. While one person opinion is there is nothing perfect and no way to achieve perfection, another person accepts the beauty in front of them knowing there are several instances of perfection in life. To say this game is not perfect is true. To say it is not a 10 is an opinion and should be accepted as that not argued over. It is ok to have a difference of opinion. It is not ok to negate a persons opinion based on your perception of life. If you are upset this game is a 10 then give it a 5 in your head if it makes you feel better. Both scores are right.
    I agree, but most see these scores as having an absolute value, so it is to the perceived absolute value that the review score must answer too. We can be philosophical about what a rating truly means, but it still gets picked up and slapped into Metacritic review. People buy on the basis of these scores so what the number is has importance beyond the philosophy.
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  • ultimateduckultimateduck Member EpicPosts: 1,309
    How can you go wrong when Teal'c is the voice actor.
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,839
    I disagree that you cannot score games as a 10. It's the classic problem with a Likert scale in that people naturally avoid the extremes of the scale. If you can't use the 10, don't put it on the scale. Doesn't mean the game is perfect, just means it's at the top of the heap at the time of evaluation. Like at the Olympics in gymnastics. They give 10s. Doesn't mean the performance was flawless, just they were on the top that day. Next week will be a new tournament.

    Anyway I can't imagine this game would be a 10 in my book. I got the last game, played 4.6 hours, uninstalled, was sad I was 1.6 hours over the refund limit, and now I scowl every time I see it in my library. It's an extremely linear 3d platformer and puzzle solver with annoyingly repetitive and difficult combat thrown in between just for the sake of adding difficulty. It adds nothing to the story. It also makes little sense. Here you have Kratos part man part god capable of throwing mountain sides at people as weapons yet he takes 5-6 hits with a giant 2-h axe to kill a human opponent. What?

    Anyway I hate it. Probably would hate this too. I get people love it and consider it the pinnacle of gaming. That's fine with me. It's just not for me.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    edited November 2022
    lahnmir said:
    I thought the first one, the 2018 reboot, was pretty good, not genre defining but very solid with amazing production values. The combat was good as in better then Darksiders but nowhere near games like Devil May Cry, let alone Bayonetta. I also thought their ‘one take’ vision was completely ruined by the clumsy inventory screen/management, an opportunity wasted.

    I will play this new one in due time but if it is only a slightly improved version of the first one I consider it nowhere near essential.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I don't find your take objectionable, but as a hack and slash fan, I appreciate many of the different flavors said genre offers.

    I enjoy the addictive and comforting simplicity of a Dynasty Warriors, and I enjoy the mechanical nuance of a Devil May Cry where style is the point and the difference between two attacks comes down to timing or hold duration. (I never much cared for Bayonetta, but that's beside the point). I don't think the appeal of any such system is the same or even necessarily similar.

    God of War has a certain weight to it. It's satisfyingly "meaty." It's slower, but also just fast enough to feel responsive. You also have a huge amount of versatility within just the Leviathan Axe, let alone everything else at your dispersal. I don't think I've ever found a better Goldilocks weapon in gaming than that. It's like the perfect inbetween of Monster Hunter's slow, methodical strikes and DMC's aggression.
  • KratierKratier Member RarePosts: 626
    this kid is in every article making salty bitter posts criticizing everything oof

    im just surprised this site got the game early its cool to see popular games reviewed here.

    i'm not spending 70 dollars so i opted for a gamefly trial lol. ill be a week late to the party, but 60 dollars richer :D
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    edited November 2022
    Scot said:
    For me a 9.5+ is a "genre defining masterpiece", it does not have to be a 10 to be defined as such. More importantly the game is not even on the PC, so not even sure how it could get a 10, a 10 for PS perhaps? ;)
    You can have your own scale, and that's fine. However, that last bit absolutely should not be taken seriously. We have per-platform ratings for a reason. Games look and run differently on different platforms, and the best version may not even be the strongest platform (looking at you Tales of Symphonia, which is still at its objective best on the Gamecube of all things). And the PC has been the worst version of a game more times than we would like to count.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936

    Scot said:

    Nothing deserves a ten because gaming can never reach perfection, it just strives for it like any other form of entertainment or art.



    Indeed, having the Con of "Some might think the combat too similar to the previous game" rather makes a 10.0 out of the question.





    That's ridiculous. The "10 simply means that even with whatever issues it might have it's amazing..

    Because why would it be a 1 out of 10 scale? Remove the 10 then. But then it would be "1 out of 9" and someone will come along and say "games can never be a 9 because ...."
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936

    DarkZorvanReturns said:



    Aeander said:




    Scot said:


    Nothing deserves a ten because gaming can never reach perfection, it just strives for it like any other form of entertainment or art.





    Indeed, having the Con of "Some might think the combat too similar to the previous game" rather makes a 10.0 out of the question.




    A 10 is a genre-defining masterpiece that represents the best we understand we can achieve right now. It's the standard by which all others are judged until we do even better.

    .






    And to me that definition is hogwash because games like AC: Odyssey and Horizon's: Zero Dawn make every GoW games' linear A to B gameplay second rate by default regardless of story or music. If GoW was "the best we understand we can achieve right now", then every game from this point on will be a GoW clone and that's a damn sad thing because to me GoW is as it always was: a game to play when bored and there's nothing good on the television. One man's treasure and all that.



    It could just be, given the design and scope of a certain game that is has achieved extremely high quality.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    um in any case, is it worth just getting this or does one need to have played the first of this series?
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Scot said:
    Nothing deserves a ten because gaming can never reach perfection, it just strives for it like any other form of entertainment or art.

    They thought the same in gymnastics until Nadia Comaneci came along in the Montreal Olympics.

    Also...



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  • fineflufffinefluff Member RarePosts: 561
    edited November 2022
    Sovrath said:
    um in any case, is it worth just getting this or does one need to have played the first of this series?
    It's the conclusion of the story started in the 2018 one, so I would play that before this. Based on the reviews, it seems that if a person liked GoW 2018, then they will like this one too. In my opinion, GoW 2018 was an immersive game with a good story, so I am looking forward to the conclusion in this one. I only wish it would launch on PC too. It probably will eventually, but for the time being it is only on PS4/5.

    That said, IGN did a pretty good summary of the story from the 2018 version if you just wanted to jump into this one.


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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Sovrath said:
    um in any case, is it worth just getting this or does one need to have played the first of this series?
    Games are generally designed as starting points even in continuous narratives, but as ever, you are going to get the best experience the further back you are willing to start.

    At the very least, God of War 2018 was designed to be a new arc that doesn't require you to have played prior games to understand what is going on. You may or may not have to play 2018 to understand this. You won't have to play all the PS2/PS3 Greco-Roman God of Wars.
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  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,315
    Just curious, not curious enough to go look myself, but curious...


    How many 10's has MMORPG.com ever given out?
  • SplattrSplattr Member RarePosts: 577

    Hengist said:

    Just curious, not curious enough to go look myself, but curious...





    How many 10's has MMORPG.com ever given out?



    A 10 is very rare indeed. Out of 626 reviews listed, the only other 10 was given to Death Stranding. Other than that, Robin gave Persona 5 a 9.8, and there have been a handful of 9.5s. Most of the reviews fall between 6.0 and 9.0, with some 4-5.5s scattered about. Say Say Girls wins the "honor" of being the lowest scored game with a 1.3, with only a few other games scoring below a 4.

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Splattr said:

    Hengist said:

    Just curious, not curious enough to go look myself, but curious...





    How many 10's has MMORPG.com ever given out?



    A 10 is very rare indeed. Out of 626 reviews listed, the only other 10 was given to Death Stranding. Other than that, Robin gave Persona 5 a 9.8, and there have been a handful of 9.5s. Most of the reviews fall between 6.0 and 9.0, with some 4-5.5s scattered about. Say Say Girls wins the "honor" of being the lowest scored game with a 1.3, with only a few other games scoring below a 4.

    Well, reviews certainly are subjective, because Kojima's UPS-simulator is definitely not what I would have chosen to give a 10 to.

    Persona 5 though? Absolutely.
  • OG_SolareusOG_Solareus Member RarePosts: 1,041
    nothing is a 10. paid.
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