A new PC!

Scot · November 2022

It is coming up to that time when get a brand new PC! I tend to go with Scan, so which one is it to be? I always have Intel, Nvidia and water-cooled, the rest is obvious like SSD. I am using a 2K 144Hz monitor currently, that may go up to a 4K 144Hz(?) if I am happy with the tradeoff between those two factors. Last time I was not and so went for the Hz rather than the K.

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BrotherMaynard · November 2022

Same here. Mine is 8 years old now. It was a top beast back then, but now it really is getting on. I was planning to replace it back in 2020, but then the whole CPU + GPU shortage comedy struck, violently. By the time things got better, there wasn't much point and I just waited until this generation.

This time it will most likely be a full AMD build, 7950X / 7900 XTX (depending on its performance). But I will probably give it a few more months, until the 3D versions of the CPU comes out and I can compare the gains. Chances are AMD will reveal them very early next year.

BTW, 7950X seems to perform excellently with ECO (105W) mode on, so no water cooling should be necessary for it and with only a negligible hit to performance:

Vrika · November 2022

I'd recommend something like this:
https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/shared/8a39060d-3f57-4b9f-a290-9ef59fe3e2ce?utm_source=3xsconfigshare&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=copypaste

That configuration has I5-13600K, RTX 3080, 32gb of DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVMe disk, and comes with liquid cooler. Price is 2,125 pounds.

The build doesn't have operating system because you can save a lot of money if you buy windows 11 cd key online.

Also you likely want to switch the case to something that you think looks good: I intentionally picked up a bland-looking case since I have no idea what kind of look you'd prefer.

EDIT: That build is done within limitations that you want to have Intel, NVidia, liquid cooling, and buy from Scan. Without those limitations I'd recommend something different.

Asm0deus · November 2022

Just to note according to AMD they made the 7900XTX to compete against the rtx 4080.

BrotherMaynard said:

...snip....
This time it will most likely be a full AMD build, 7950X / 7900 XTX (depending on its performance).
...snip...

Splattr · November 2022

Scot said:

It is coming up to that time when get a brand new PC! I tend to go with Scan, so which one is it to be? I always have Intel, Nvidia and water-cooled, the rest is obvious like SSD. I am using a 2K 144Hz monitor currently, that may go up to a 4K 144Hz(?) if I am happy with the tradeoff between those two factors. Last time I was not and so went for the Hz rather than the K.

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Do you have a price limit or just going balls to the wall on performance? And are you willing to use AMD, or does it have to be Intel and Nvidia?

As for 2k vs 4k, I refuse to give up my ultra wide. My old weary eyes can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, so I prefer the wider screen. If price isn't a consideration, maybe move up to 5k, but I don't think there are any high refresh rate options. Someone please tell me if there is.

Vrika · November 2022

Splattr said:
As for 2k vs 4k, I refuse to give up my ultra wide. My old weary eyes can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, so I prefer the wider screen. If price isn't a consideration, maybe move up to 5k, but I don't think there are any high refresh rate options. Someone please tell me if there is.

RTX 4090 is the only GPU that can get close to 144Hz refresh rates on 4K monitor if you're running modern games on high settings.

Assuming that Scott's current 2K 144Hz monitor is good, I'd recommend against changing it unless you're also buying RTX 4090.

Vrika · November 2022

Asm0deus said:

Just to note according to AMD they made the 7900XTX to compete against the rtx 4080.

BrotherMaynard said:

...snip....
This time it will most likely be a full AMD build, 7950X / 7900 XTX (depending on its performance).
...snip...

Manufacturers can say anything. Purchase decisions for something as expensive as these parts should be made only once you see independent reviews.

Asm0deus · November 2022

Vrika said:

Asm0deus said:

Just to note according to AMD they made the 7900XTX to compete against the rtx 4080.

BrotherMaynard said:

...snip....
This time it will most likely be a full AMD build, 7950X / 7900 XTX (depending on its performance).
...snip...

Manufacturers can say anything. Purchase decisions for something as expensive as these parts should be made only once you see independent reviews.

Indeed however lots of people are wanting to compare the 7900XTX vs the rtx 4090 when AMD themselves are saying it was designed to compete with the RTX 4080.

Also the cost of the 7900XTX is also inline or far closer to the rtx 4080 than the rtx 4090.

Quizzical · November 2022

Asm0deus said:

Vrika said:

Asm0deus said:

Just to note according to AMD they made the 7900XTX to compete against the rtx 4080.

BrotherMaynard said:

...snip....
This time it will most likely be a full AMD build, 7950X / 7900 XTX (depending on its performance).
...snip...

Manufacturers can say anything. Purchase decisions for something as expensive as these parts should be made only once you see independent reviews.

Indeed however lots of people are wanting to compare the 7900XTX vs the rtx 4090 when AMD themselves are saying it was designed to compete with the RTX 4080.

Also the cost of the 7900XTX is also inline or far closer to the rtx 4080 than the rtx 4090.

AMD wants the comparison to be against the RTX 4080 because then the conclusion will be that the 7900 XTX is both faster and cheaper, and everyone but Nvidia fanboys will agree that that means AMD wins. If the comparison is against the RTX 4090, then the conclusion will be that the 7900 XTX is both slower and cheaper, and people will argue about whether that means that AMD or Nvidia wins.

kitarad · November 2022

I want to ask this because I play a lot of older games and in the past AMD used to have issues with older games. Has this improved with the newer cards because even if I get a new PC I will still play older games on it.

Scot · November 2022

Splattr said:

Scot said:

It is coming up to that time when get a brand new PC! I tend to go with Scan, so which one is it to be? I always have Intel, Nvidia and water-cooled, the rest is obvious like SSD. I am using a 2K 144Hz monitor currently, that may go up to a 4K 144Hz(?) if I am happy with the tradeoff between those two factors. Last time I was not and so went for the Hz rather than the K.

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Do you have a price limit or just going balls to the wall on performance? And are you willing to use AMD, or does it have to be Intel and Nvidia?

As for 2k vs 4k, I refuse to give up my ultra wide. My old weary eyes can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, so I prefer the wider screen. If price isn't a consideration, maybe move up to 5k, but I don't think there are any high refresh rate options. Someone please tell me if there is.

Well, I was defiantly thinking of paying more than Vrika suggested, I was thinking of something in the £4000 to £5000 range. I have kept his to make sure nothing goes under the specs he stated. Scan have always done me proud, so I am sticking with them, same for Intel and Nividia, they have served me well all these years.

I would go with Windows 11 installed, it's hardly breaking the bank, don't care how it looks just a big case for airflow and addons though I rarely get addons. RGB irreverent, though I do use an LED mouse and keyboard, no peripherals needed except maybe a new monitor, which I can get later. I go for the best fans possible even with water-cooling to keep the noise down. Second drive is usually a really big HDD, I am not going to run programs on it.

I actually prefer to get a higher spec processor and not run it overclocked as I think you get a longer lifespan, but for donkeys now, overclocking has been par the course.

Thanks for all the help guys, I am just getting reacquainted with all the jargon, so some pointers help.

Asm0deus · November 2022

Quizzical said:

Asm0deus said:

Vrika said:

Asm0deus said:

Just to note according to AMD they made the 7900XTX to compete against the rtx 4080.

BrotherMaynard said:

...snip....
This time it will most likely be a full AMD build, 7950X / 7900 XTX (depending on its performance).
...snip...

Manufacturers can say anything. Purchase decisions for something as expensive as these parts should be made only once you see independent reviews.

Indeed however lots of people are wanting to compare the 7900XTX vs the rtx 4090 when AMD themselves are saying it was designed to compete with the RTX 4080.

Also the cost of the 7900XTX is also inline or far closer to the rtx 4080 than the rtx 4090.

AMD wants the comparison to be against the RTX 4080 because then the conclusion will be that the 7900 XTX is both faster and cheaper, and everyone but Nvidia fanboys will agree that that means AMD wins. If the comparison is against the RTX 4090, then the conclusion will be that the 7900 XTX is both slower and cheaper, and people will argue about whether that means that AMD or Nvidia wins.

Maybe so but frankly price is what should decide what to compare something to in the gpu market so the 7900xtx is indeed a mid tier card being priced at 999$ which is what 200$ cheaper than nvidia's "mid tier" 4080 card.

I am sure peeps can come up with reasons why it aint so but for me and I am sure lots of people we look at price first as that dictates what we can and cannot buy and our budget is what dictates what to look at when thinking AMD vs Nvidia.

Seems like AMD thinks so and it's a smart move on their part since nvidia's price/performance is atrociously bad right now.

Like I have been saying this was AMD's chance to kick nvidia hard in the nuts and looks like they took it.

Quizzical · November 2022

Scot said:

Splattr said:

Scot said:

It is coming up to that time when get a brand new PC! I tend to go with Scan, so which one is it to be? I always have Intel, Nvidia and water-cooled, the rest is obvious like SSD. I am using a 2K 144Hz monitor currently, that may go up to a 4K 144Hz(?) if I am happy with the tradeoff between those two factors. Last time I was not and so went for the Hz rather than the K.

Gaming PCs | Powerful Award Winning Gaming Desktops | SCAN UK

Do you have a price limit or just going balls to the wall on performance? And are you willing to use AMD, or does it have to be Intel and Nvidia?

As for 2k vs 4k, I refuse to give up my ultra wide. My old weary eyes can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, so I prefer the wider screen. If price isn't a consideration, maybe move up to 5k, but I don't think there are any high refresh rate options. Someone please tell me if there is.

Well, I was defiantly thinking of paying more than Vrika suggested, I was thinking of something in the £4000 to £5000 range. I have kept his to make sure nothing goes under the specs he stated. Scan have always done me proud, so I am sticking with them, same for Intel and Nividia, they have served me well all these years.

I would go with Windows 11 installed, it's hardly breaking the bank, don't care how it looks just a big case for airflow and addons though I rarely get addons. RGB irreverent, though I do use an LED mouse and keyboard, no peripherals needed except maybe a new monitor, which I can get later. I go for the best fans possible even with water-cooling to keep the noise down. Second drive is usually a really big HDD, I am not going to run programs on it.

I actually prefer to get a higher spec processor and not run it overclocked as I think you get a longer lifespan, but for donkeys now, overclocking has been par the course.

Thanks for all the help guys, I am just getting reacquainted with all the jargon, so some pointers help.

On a huge budget, a GeForce RTX 4090 is the fastest card you can buy, and will remain so for quite some time. Maybe Nvidia will have a refresh of it that is slightly faster, and there's an off chance that AMD will launch something with a larger graphics/compute die in a year or so, but other than that, the RTX 4090 will probably be king for about two more years. It's also $1600, so it's a question of what you want to pay.

I don't see how Vrika made a link to a particular configuration as opposed to a general configurator. When I try to use their configurator, it costs about an extra £1000 over picking parts myself. To pick parts from that site, this is what I came up with:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-13900k-s-1700-raptor-lake-24-cores-32-threads-30ghz-58ghz-turbo-36mb-cache-125w-retail
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/palit-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-gamerock-omniblack-24gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card-16384-core-25
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi-intel-z790-s-1700-ddr5-pcie-50-4x-m2-25gbe-ax-wifi-bt-usb-32-gen2-atx
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nda-tbc1300w-seasonic-prime-gx-full-modular-80-plus-gold-sli-crossfire-single-rail-108a-135mm-fan-at
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/2tb-wd-black-sn850x-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-ssd-7300mb-s-read-6600mb-s-write
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/silverstone-sst-pf240-argb-v2-permafrost-aio-cooler-2x-120mm-argb-pwm-fan-240mm-aluminium-radiator-i
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/fractal-focus-2-rgb-black-mid-tower-chassis-w-tempered-glass-window-2x-140mm-rgb-fans-usb-30-atx-mat
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/microsoft-windows-11-home-64bit-all-languages-digital-download-1-licence-operating-system-software

That comes to £3560.

The Core i9-13900K is Intel's current top of the line. It's also rated at 253 W, though you can throttle that back severely in the BIOS if you'd rather cap it at 125 W or 150 W or some such. The PL2 power is the setting that you're looking for if you want to go that route. If you let it run wild and burn 253 W, then you pretty much have to give it a big liquid cooler.

If you want an RTX 4090 and a Core i9-13900K, then you're going to burn a ton of power. You'll need at least a 1000 W power supply, and could perhaps consider going higher than that. I picked a 1300 W power supply for you. That's way overkill for most gaming rigs, but most gaming rigs don't have a video card that is going to sometimes pull over 500 W all by itself.

Quizzical · November 2022

Asm0deus said:

Quizzical said:

Asm0deus said:

Vrika said:

Asm0deus said:

Just to note according to AMD they made the 7900XTX to compete against the rtx 4080.

BrotherMaynard said:

...snip....
This time it will most likely be a full AMD build, 7950X / 7900 XTX (depending on its performance).
...snip...

Manufacturers can say anything. Purchase decisions for something as expensive as these parts should be made only once you see independent reviews.

Indeed however lots of people are wanting to compare the 7900XTX vs the rtx 4090 when AMD themselves are saying it was designed to compete with the RTX 4080.

Also the cost of the 7900XTX is also inline or far closer to the rtx 4080 than the rtx 4090.

AMD wants the comparison to be against the RTX 4080 because then the conclusion will be that the 7900 XTX is both faster and cheaper, and everyone but Nvidia fanboys will agree that that means AMD wins. If the comparison is against the RTX 4090, then the conclusion will be that the 7900 XTX is both slower and cheaper, and people will argue about whether that means that AMD or Nvidia wins.

Maybe so but frankly price is what should decide what to compare something to in the gpu market so the 7900xtx is indeed a mid tier card being priced at 999$ which is what 200$ cheaper than nvidia's "mid tier" 4080 card.

I am sure peeps can come up with reasons why it aint so but for me and I am sure lots of people we look at price first as that dictates what we can and cannot buy and our budget is what dictates what to look at when thinking AMD vs Nvidia.

Seems like AMD thinks so and it's a smart move on their part since nvidia's price/performance is atrociously bad right now.

Like I have been saying this was AMD's chance to kick nvidia hard in the nuts and looks like they took it.

By the time the RTX 4080 is available in real volume, Nvidia probably won't still be charging $1200 for it.

Vrika · November 2022

Quizzical said:

Scot said:

Splattr said:

Scot said:

It is coming up to that time when get a brand new PC! I tend to go with Scan, so which one is it to be? I always have Intel, Nvidia and water-cooled, the rest is obvious like SSD. I am using a 2K 144Hz monitor currently, that may go up to a 4K 144Hz(?) if I am happy with the tradeoff between those two factors. Last time I was not and so went for the Hz rather than the K.

Gaming PCs | Powerful Award Winning Gaming Desktops | SCAN UK

Do you have a price limit or just going balls to the wall on performance? And are you willing to use AMD, or does it have to be Intel and Nvidia?

As for 2k vs 4k, I refuse to give up my ultra wide. My old weary eyes can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, so I prefer the wider screen. If price isn't a consideration, maybe move up to 5k, but I don't think there are any high refresh rate options. Someone please tell me if there is.

Well, I was defiantly thinking of paying more than Vrika suggested, I was thinking of something in the £4000 to £5000 range. I have kept his to make sure nothing goes under the specs he stated. Scan have always done me proud, so I am sticking with them, same for Intel and Nividia, they have served me well all these years.

I would go with Windows 11 installed, it's hardly breaking the bank, don't care how it looks just a big case for airflow and addons though I rarely get addons. RGB irreverent, though I do use an LED mouse and keyboard, no peripherals needed except maybe a new monitor, which I can get later. I go for the best fans possible even with water-cooling to keep the noise down. Second drive is usually a really big HDD, I am not going to run programs on it.

I actually prefer to get a higher spec processor and not run it overclocked as I think you get a longer lifespan, but for donkeys now, overclocking has been par the course.

Thanks for all the help guys, I am just getting reacquainted with all the jargon, so some pointers help.

On a huge budget, a GeForce RTX 4090 is the fastest card you can buy, and will remain so for quite some time. Maybe Nvidia will have a refresh of it that is slightly faster, and there's an off chance that AMD will launch something with a larger graphics/compute die in a year or so, but other than that, the RTX 4090 will probably be king for about two more years. It's also $1600, so it's a question of what you want to pay.

I don't see how Vrika made a link to a particular configuration as opposed to a general configurator. When I try to use their configurator, it costs about an extra £1000 over picking parts myself. To pick parts from that site, this is what I came up with:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-13900k-s-1700-raptor-lake-24-cores-32-threads-30ghz-58ghz-turbo-36mb-cache-125w-retail
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/palit-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-gamerock-omniblack-24gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card-16384-core-25
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi-intel-z790-s-1700-ddr5-pcie-50-4x-m2-25gbe-ax-wifi-bt-usb-32-gen2-atx
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nda-tbc1300w-seasonic-prime-gx-full-modular-80-plus-gold-sli-crossfire-single-rail-108a-135mm-fan-at
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/2tb-wd-black-sn850x-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-ssd-7300mb-s-read-6600mb-s-write
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/silverstone-sst-pf240-argb-v2-permafrost-aio-cooler-2x-120mm-argb-pwm-fan-240mm-aluminium-radiator-i
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/fractal-focus-2-rgb-black-mid-tower-chassis-w-tempered-glass-window-2x-140mm-rgb-fans-usb-30-atx-mat
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/microsoft-windows-11-home-64bit-all-languages-digital-download-1-licence-operating-system-software

That comes to £3560.

The Core i9-13900K is Intel's current top of the line. It's also rated at 253 W, though you can throttle that back severely in the BIOS if you'd rather cap it at 125 W or 150 W or some such. The PL2 power is the setting that you're looking for if you want to go that route. If you let it run wild and burn 253 W, then you pretty much have to give it a big liquid cooler.

If you want an RTX 4090 and a Core i9-13900K, then you're going to burn a ton of power. You'll need at least a 1000 W power supply, and could perhaps consider going higher than that. I picked a 1300 W power supply for you. That's way overkill for most gaming rigs, but most gaming rigs don't have a video card that is going to sometimes pull over 500 W all by itself.

I started customizing from here:
https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom/pc/pc#anc

But if Scan agrees to build a completely custom rig from parts picked through their website like you did, it might be a better way since that configurator I used is rather limited.

Btw your part list is missing RAM.

Quizzical · November 2022

Vrika said:

Quizzical said:

Scot said:

Splattr said:

Scot said:

It is coming up to that time when get a brand new PC! I tend to go with Scan, so which one is it to be? I always have Intel, Nvidia and water-cooled, the rest is obvious like SSD. I am using a 2K 144Hz monitor currently, that may go up to a 4K 144Hz(?) if I am happy with the tradeoff between those two factors. Last time I was not and so went for the Hz rather than the K.

Gaming PCs | Powerful Award Winning Gaming Desktops | SCAN UK

Do you have a price limit or just going balls to the wall on performance? And are you willing to use AMD, or does it have to be Intel and Nvidia?

As for 2k vs 4k, I refuse to give up my ultra wide. My old weary eyes can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, so I prefer the wider screen. If price isn't a consideration, maybe move up to 5k, but I don't think there are any high refresh rate options. Someone please tell me if there is.

Well, I was defiantly thinking of paying more than Vrika suggested, I was thinking of something in the £4000 to £5000 range. I have kept his to make sure nothing goes under the specs he stated. Scan have always done me proud, so I am sticking with them, same for Intel and Nividia, they have served me well all these years.

I would go with Windows 11 installed, it's hardly breaking the bank, don't care how it looks just a big case for airflow and addons though I rarely get addons. RGB irreverent, though I do use an LED mouse and keyboard, no peripherals needed except maybe a new monitor, which I can get later. I go for the best fans possible even with water-cooling to keep the noise down. Second drive is usually a really big HDD, I am not going to run programs on it.

I actually prefer to get a higher spec processor and not run it overclocked as I think you get a longer lifespan, but for donkeys now, overclocking has been par the course.

Thanks for all the help guys, I am just getting reacquainted with all the jargon, so some pointers help.

On a huge budget, a GeForce RTX 4090 is the fastest card you can buy, and will remain so for quite some time. Maybe Nvidia will have a refresh of it that is slightly faster, and there's an off chance that AMD will launch something with a larger graphics/compute die in a year or so, but other than that, the RTX 4090 will probably be king for about two more years. It's also $1600, so it's a question of what you want to pay.

I don't see how Vrika made a link to a particular configuration as opposed to a general configurator. When I try to use their configurator, it costs about an extra £1000 over picking parts myself. To pick parts from that site, this is what I came up with:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-13900k-s-1700-raptor-lake-24-cores-32-threads-30ghz-58ghz-turbo-36mb-cache-125w-retail
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/palit-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-gamerock-omniblack-24gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card-16384-core-25
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi-intel-z790-s-1700-ddr5-pcie-50-4x-m2-25gbe-ax-wifi-bt-usb-32-gen2-atx
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nda-tbc1300w-seasonic-prime-gx-full-modular-80-plus-gold-sli-crossfire-single-rail-108a-135mm-fan-at
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/2tb-wd-black-sn850x-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-ssd-7300mb-s-read-6600mb-s-write
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/silverstone-sst-pf240-argb-v2-permafrost-aio-cooler-2x-120mm-argb-pwm-fan-240mm-aluminium-radiator-i
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/fractal-focus-2-rgb-black-mid-tower-chassis-w-tempered-glass-window-2x-140mm-rgb-fans-usb-30-atx-mat
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/microsoft-windows-11-home-64bit-all-languages-digital-download-1-licence-operating-system-software

That comes to £3560.

The Core i9-13900K is Intel's current top of the line. It's also rated at 253 W, though you can throttle that back severely in the BIOS if you'd rather cap it at 125 W or 150 W or some such. The PL2 power is the setting that you're looking for if you want to go that route. If you let it run wild and burn 253 W, then you pretty much have to give it a big liquid cooler.

If you want an RTX 4090 and a Core i9-13900K, then you're going to burn a ton of power. You'll need at least a 1000 W power supply, and could perhaps consider going higher than that. I picked a 1300 W power supply for you. That's way overkill for most gaming rigs, but most gaming rigs don't have a video card that is going to sometimes pull over 500 W all by itself.

I started customizing from here:
https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom/pc/pc#anc

But if Scan agrees to build a completely custom rig from parts picked through their website like you did, it might be a better way since that configurator I used is rather limited.

Btw your part list is missing RAM.

Oops. Well then, add some memory.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/32gb-2x16gb-corsair-ddr5-vengeance-black-pc5-41600-5200-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-40-xmp-30-125v

Scot · November 2022

Quizzical said:
I started customizing from here:
https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom/pc/pc#anc

But if Scan agrees to build a completely custom rig from parts picked through their website like you did, it might be a better way since that configurator I used is rather limited.

Btw your part list is missing RAM.

Oops. Well then, add some memory.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/32gb-2x16gb-corsair-ddr5-vengeance-black-pc5-41600-5200-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-40-xmp-30-125v

Always handy for a build.

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