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Ashes of Creation Previews the Tank Archetype for Alpha Two in Latest Dev Video | MMORPG.com

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  • SaruomoSaruomo Member UncommonPosts: 140
    edited January 2023

    hoenens1 said:

    I rather give them time and play something epic, rather than they're pushing shit out many AAA companies do and end up with TRASH.



    That's an oxymoron. Only a AAA studio can pull off something truly epic, and even that is not always the case. If these guys spent more than7 years trying to write a wikipedia of a non-existing game and only now they are making super limited tech demos, I expect nothing even one bit exciting from them. They will just keep prolonging the alpha for another 10 years, for 10 different alpha versions so they can keep milking the cash cows until copium runs out and they forget about this scam altogether.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Haven’t watched the video but does anyone know how they incorporated the hybrid tab/twitch combat into tanking?

    On a plane to no streaming for 4 hours
    Its simple, you have action skills that do soft lock and tab skills that have hard lock. Also allot of the action skills are things like cone attacks, PBAoE and dodge mechanics. Tab players will not feel out of place or chicken winged because they focus on tab skills. 
  • OG_SolareusOG_Solareus Member RarePosts: 1,041
    edited January 2023
    Looks good. Some of the 2h sword skills seemed a bit generic, Seen those types of animations already is so many game with 2h. Not going to complain to much since it is alpha .
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,651
    Nanfoodle said:
    Haven’t watched the video but does anyone know how they incorporated the hybrid tab/twitch combat into tanking?

    On a plane to no streaming for 4 hours
    Its simple, you have action skills that do soft lock and tab skills that have hard lock. Also allot of the action skills are things like cone attacks, PBAoE and dodge mechanics. Tab players will not feel out of place or chicken winged because they focus on tab skills. 
    So for tanking are there some classes that use tab and others that use twitch or do they all use both? 


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  • sopukusopuku Member UncommonPosts: 55

    Saruomo said:

    People still falling for the A$$es of Scama$hit BS.....copium addicts in denial even after seeing how the "game" they are being shown is nothing but a limited tech demo that looks like it was made for the PS2. They have no funding for a proper mmorpg with senior/experienced staff to put together what they claim to deliver, an S tier mmorpg experience....which would need a minimum of 300 million dollars. A tech demo showing clunky/stiff combat is meaningless if you have no clue about the direction of your game's lore and haven't even bothered with writing one and creating a trailer for it. Looks like it is being created by a bunch of amateur volunteers working for free to get something on their resume. Steven needs to stop paying loud mouth streamers and content creators to shill and to over hype it, keeping people's hopes up by pretending that things are OK when the game will not be even 5% of what they are promising.



    exactly mate.. i was surprised they still creating that.. it has been like 5+ years or so.. the graphics already looks like total shit.. they shoulc just burry that project and forget about it.. :D
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Nanfoodle said:
    Haven’t watched the video but does anyone know how they incorporated the hybrid tab/twitch combat into tanking?

    On a plane to no streaming for 4 hours
    Its simple, you have action skills that do soft lock and tab skills that have hard lock. Also allot of the action skills are things like cone attacks, PBAoE and dodge mechanics. Tab players will not feel out of place or chicken winged because they focus on tab skills. 
    So for tanking are there some classes that use tab and others that use twitch or do they all use both? 


    There used to be a cap. You needed to use at least 25% of one of the types. 25% Action skills and 75% tab or vise versa. That is no longer the case. You just pick what skills you want. They have also removed things like hit boxes that do extra damage to say the head. So damage is standardized. So one group does not have an advantage over another. So, play how you want, is what it comes too. 50% 50%, or 100% tab. It will just be how you chose to play. 
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    P.S. you can also switch with a key bind from Action UI or Tab UI. They have really done a good job with this. FYI, things have changed many times on this but I think they have found an iteration they are happy with, but things could change. Next stage of alpha will have 100K+ players, so feedback may change things again. 
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  • OG_SolareusOG_Solareus Member RarePosts: 1,041
    Saruomo said:
    Good luck to the chief scamming officer, err, CEO....with this generic garbo competing against the combination of the 40 games below currently in development plus future versions of current mmos.


    3/4 of those arent even mmos. And most won't be released as they are simply running drafts.
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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,045
    Still introducing archetypes?

    When do we start seeing the 64 sub-classes?
  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188
    edited January 2023

    Saruomo said:

    Good luck to the chief scamming officer, err, CEO....with this generic garbo competing against the combination of the 40 games below currently in development plus future versions of current mmos.

    />



    This is probably one of the best posts I have seen in a while, informative, easy, and had a good time learning besides the mention of the scam/CEO as I have hope in AoC. The legend of YMIR - beautiful trailer.

    ~Greatness~

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  • SaruomoSaruomo Member UncommonPosts: 140
    JUST ANNOUNCED!!!!! Ashes is an open world pvp mmo scam project, but this one is a real project and it looks hella impressive! This game makes the American devs look like third world and the Turkish dev first world plus lmao....

    Kyleran
  • SaruomoSaruomo Member UncommonPosts: 140
    Forget all the 50 games above, this is the dream wishlist all in one MMORPG releasing this year...AoC hasn't been able to create even 1% of it after over 7 years.
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  • LucixLucix Member UncommonPosts: 79
    I was looking at that 'tank mechanics' video the other day and all I could think of was:

    "Why does this look kinda bad?"

    Was is the clunky-ness which is still not fixed, I remember making a remark about that a couple years back. Or is that something you fix later when creating a game? Is is the stale graphics (eventhough it's UE5), it looks just unimpressive and I'm not even sure why I'm thinking that. Maybe the big effect or slicing mechanics on mobs and sound? Could be all of the above really.

    Is the competition in this market just so incredible that even Ashes of Creation just looks like a B-rated game? I'm about to skip this if it doesn't improve.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Lucix said:
    I was looking at that 'tank mechanics' video the other day and all I could think of was:

    "Why does this look kinda bad?"

    Was is the clunky-ness which is still not fixed, I remember making a remark about that a couple years back. Or is that something you fix later when creating a game? Is is the stale graphics (eventhough it's UE5), it looks just unimpressive and I'm not even sure why I'm thinking that. Maybe the big effect or slicing mechanics on mobs and sound? Could be all of the above really.

    Is the competition in this market just so incredible that even Ashes of Creation just looks like a B-rated game? I'm about to skip this if it doesn't improve.
    You need to look at this with development glasses. This is still an Alpha product. They are showing off things, studios in the past would have never shown. Things like animations and partial effects, are still no where near final pass. In Alpha the main goal is to build the core game, so that feedback can be given on what things are fun and not fun. So they can cut things or expand things they didnt know could be core gameplay.  
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  • BarabBarab Member UncommonPosts: 11
    Has MMORPG.com comments always been this toxic? Reads like a orchestrated bot attack on a game developer. Anyway, take your time intrepid get it right.
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  • Haki88Haki88 Member UncommonPosts: 233
    Barab said:
    Has MMORPG.com comments always been this toxic? Reads like a orchestrated bot attack on a game developer. Anyway, take your time intrepid get it right.
    It is funny when people are saying truth and then "these" people are toxic. I mean what should people say? How great it is for interpid to miss release date by over 3 years? How great it is because of around 30 votes on poll to have game reddit being spammed with useless youtube videos. How great it is to get useless official livestream every month about art/design/questions*/fan art and maybe some real gameplay footage**.

    * Yes useless questions about can i do this ingame, can i do that. Ask real question when is release date, how many % of developement is done etc.

    ** Since they switched to ue5, people got hyped even more and i dont get it, it is freaking engine not game, they didnt do anything to have weather control day/night, climbing etc, what else? They gonna brag how they have ray tracing ingame?

    Please get real..
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  • LucixLucix Member UncommonPosts: 79
    Haki88 said:
    Barab said:
    Has MMORPG.com comments always been this toxic? Reads like a orchestrated bot attack on a game developer. Anyway, take your time intrepid get it right.
    It is funny when people are saying truth and then "these" people are toxic. I mean what should people say? How great it is for interpid to miss release date by over 3 years? How great it is because of around 30 votes on poll to have game reddit being spammed with useless youtube videos. How great it is to get useless official livestream every month about art/design/questions*/fan art and maybe some real gameplay footage**.

    * Yes useless questions about can i do this ingame, can i do that. Ask real question when is release date, how many % of developement is done etc.

    ** Since they switched to ue5, people got hyped even more and i dont get it, it is freaking engine not game, they didnt do anything to have weather control day/night, climbing etc, what else? They gonna brag how they have ray tracing ingame?

    Please get real..
    Honestly I agree though, you cannot expect people to be on copium since 2017+. There's a limit to that too you know, I even purchased a kickstarter package (I think it was the 150 one). So I'm a customer already so it seems.

    Thing is, we even went as far as Naval Combat with the Kickstarter, with editable ships and what not. Extremely ambitious. And for what I'm seeing now, this could well be another Star Citizen. The pre-alpha was in 2017, mind you.

    Then there's that whole s*tshow with the Apocalypse Battle royal thing.

    I mean, as far as I can tell they have a lot to prove, and as guy who's even paid for a game which was promised long ago, I think we deserve a spot to put out our criticism in some way.
    NanfoodleKyleranSlapshot1188
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Lucix said:
    Haki88 said:
    Barab said:
    Has MMORPG.com comments always been this toxic? Reads like a orchestrated bot attack on a game developer. Anyway, take your time intrepid get it right.
    It is funny when people are saying truth and then "these" people are toxic. I mean what should people say? How great it is for interpid to miss release date by over 3 years? How great it is because of around 30 votes on poll to have game reddit being spammed with useless youtube videos. How great it is to get useless official livestream every month about art/design/questions*/fan art and maybe some real gameplay footage**.

    * Yes useless questions about can i do this ingame, can i do that. Ask real question when is release date, how many % of developement is done etc.

    ** Since they switched to ue5, people got hyped even more and i dont get it, it is freaking engine not game, they didnt do anything to have weather control day/night, climbing etc, what else? They gonna brag how they have ray tracing ingame?

    Please get real..
    Honestly I agree though, you cannot expect people to be on copium since 2017+. There's a limit to that too you know, I even purchased a kickstarter package (I think it was the 150 one). So I'm a customer already so it seems.

    Thing is, we even went as far as Naval Combat with the Kickstarter, with editable ships and what not. Extremely ambitious. And for what I'm seeing now, this could well be another Star Citizen. The pre-alpha was in 2017, mind you.

    Then there's that whole s*tshow with the Apocalypse Battle royal thing.

    I mean, as far as I can tell they have a lot to prove, and as guy who's even paid for a game which was promised long ago, I think we deserve a spot to put out our criticism in some way.
    Steven thought he was so cute with his word play on the released date. He never should have had any control over marketing. If he had hired a real marketing team, this game and its team would have been respected for how they have developed this MMO.  
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,651
    Nanfoodle said:
    Lucix said:
    Haki88 said:
    Barab said:
    Has MMORPG.com comments always been this toxic? Reads like a orchestrated bot attack on a game developer. Anyway, take your time intrepid get it right.
    It is funny when people are saying truth and then "these" people are toxic. I mean what should people say? How great it is for interpid to miss release date by over 3 years? How great it is because of around 30 votes on poll to have game reddit being spammed with useless youtube videos. How great it is to get useless official livestream every month about art/design/questions*/fan art and maybe some real gameplay footage**.

    * Yes useless questions about can i do this ingame, can i do that. Ask real question when is release date, how many % of developement is done etc.

    ** Since they switched to ue5, people got hyped even more and i dont get it, it is freaking engine not game, they didnt do anything to have weather control day/night, climbing etc, what else? They gonna brag how they have ray tracing ingame?

    Please get real..
    Honestly I agree though, you cannot expect people to be on copium since 2017+. There's a limit to that too you know, I even purchased a kickstarter package (I think it was the 150 one). So I'm a customer already so it seems.

    Thing is, we even went as far as Naval Combat with the Kickstarter, with editable ships and what not. Extremely ambitious. And for what I'm seeing now, this could well be another Star Citizen. The pre-alpha was in 2017, mind you.

    Then there's that whole s*tshow with the Apocalypse Battle royal thing.

    I mean, as far as I can tell they have a lot to prove, and as guy who's even paid for a game which was promised long ago, I think we deserve a spot to put out our criticism in some way.
    Steven thought he was so cute with his word play on the released date. He never should have had any control over marketing. If he had hired a real marketing team, this game and its team would have been respected for how they have developed this MMO.  
    Stephen specialty is literally marketing.  First his MLM Xango juice.  Then Real Estate as far as I know.  I mean, other than money that is literally what he brings to the table.  It’s not his skill in software development. That’s for sure.
    nursoBrainy

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Saruomo said:
    Forget all the 50 games above, this is the dream wishlist all in one MMORPG releasing this year...AoC hasn't been able to create even 1% of it after over 7 years.

    This hasn't even been released yet. It seem more like a "sizzle reel" video showing some enticing images but nothing really substantial.

    I'd hold off on the 2nd coming until we see real people playing the game in a beta or even launch.
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  • rounnerrounner Member UncommonPosts: 725
    Barab said:
    Has MMORPG.com comments always been this toxic? Reads like a orchestrated bot attack on a game developer. Anyway, take your time intrepid get it right.
    We were saying the same things about Brad and VGSoH in 2006
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    OniDante said:


    this is kinda a disrespect for bdo, imo bdo isnt a great game but it has the best combat between all mmos and i dont think there will be a game that will change my opinion but im hoping riot's mmo does
    Welcome to the forums! :)
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  • SaruomoSaruomo Member UncommonPosts: 140
    What guarantees that we will not end up with this scammy situation again (KiraTV's review of AoC's previous work):
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