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Diablo IV Devs Talk Making Things Darker and More Dynamic, Redesigning Monsters, Petting the Dog, an

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edited February 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageDiablo IV Devs Talk Making Things Darker and More Dynamic, Redesigning Monsters, Petting the Dog, and More | MMORPG.com

The Diablo IV team, in a new video, take us inside Sanctuary, and detail design inspirations, making things darker and scarier, as well as more dynamic and explorable. And petting the dogs.

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  • McSleazMcSleaz Member RarePosts: 280
    I like dogs :)
  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421
    The game looks fantastic.

    The angle is way too top down. Even more so than any other game.

    The climbing/jumping points look like they have to be clicked. Real bummer.

    Still not seeing followers/mercs.
    ZenJellyelveonedefroststarScot
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,178
    Cannot deny it but damn the game looks amazing.
    Sovrath

  • elveoneelveone Member RarePosts: 430
    Needs more saturation.
    defroststarHiromantZenerenemperorhades1Incomparable
  • corrosivechainscorrosivechains Member UncommonPosts: 50
    edited February 2023
    Can call it Diablo IV all you want, but with the monetization it's just Diablo Immortal 2.
    OG_SolareusJeroKaneIselinIceAgeAsm0deuszigalucardemperorhades1gastovski1KnightFalz
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Can call it Diablo IV all you want, but with the monetization it's just Diablo Immortal 2.
    Yeah P2W and the cosmetics-only battle pass are exactly the same... no difference whatsoever.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    I'm not nearly hyped enough to buy it at launch but I do think they can really improve it within the first year after launch.  The combat is a solid meh and the endgame is a minimally viable product.
    elveoneemperorhades1
  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981
    The more they show the game the less I am interested.

    Its not that it looks bad ( although it looks very drab and repetitive ) but the fact that its built on very tired tropes. Blizzard is obviously out ideas and creativity, and is just trying to rehash what worked in ( very long past ).

    But is this enough to make for a good game today? I think not. We already played D2 and POE , and Grimdawn and all the similar games. We are now getting another that looks and plays completely same ... why bother.

    McSleazemperorhades1OldKingLog



  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Member UncommonPosts: 1,273
    I will hit max level and then become immediately bored I think. That is usually the case for me in these games as much fun as I have in them. Plus FFXVI is right around the corner from this release.

    POE map system was fun but that didn't hook me like it has others. Maybe I'm just not in for the required grind after beating the story.
    emperorhades1
  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421


    I will hit max level and then become immediately bored I think. That is usually the case for me in these games as much fun as I have in them. Plus FFXVI is right around the corner from this release.



    POE map system was fun but that didn't hook me like it has others. Maybe I'm just not in for the required grind after beating the story.



    You will be bored long before max level.
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,842
    Haha you guys crack me up.

    Diablo 3 comes out
    You: oh it looks like a cartoon. So bright and colorful. Looks like a unicorn farting rainbows. Diablo 2 was so much better
    Diablo 3 team literally makes level with unicorns farting rainbows to spoof your comments
    Diablo 4 releases trailer with artwork inspired by Diablo 2
    You: oh it's so drab. Too much saturation. So boring to look at.

    You guys are literally impossible to satisfy. Absolutely nothing the Diablo 4 team does will be acceptable to you.

    So glad I'm not a game developer. I can't imagine what it's like spending years of your life working on a game trying to chase an impossibly fickle fan base. How incredibly frustrating.
    zigalucardelveoneemperorhades1
  • elveoneelveone Member RarePosts: 430

    Angrakhan said:

    Haha you guys crack me up.



    Diablo 3 comes out

    You: oh it looks like a cartoon. So bright and colorful. Looks like a unicorn farting rainbows. Diablo 2 was so much better

    Diablo 3 team literally makes level with unicorns farting rainbows to spoof your comments

    Diablo 4 releases trailer with artwork inspired by Diablo 2

    You: oh it's so drab. Too much saturation. So boring to look at.



    You guys are literally impossible to satisfy. Absolutely nothing the Diablo 4 team does will be acceptable to you.



    So glad I'm not a game developer. I can't imagine what it's like spending years of your life working on a game trying to chase an impossibly fickle fan base. How incredibly frustrating.



    Low saturation is not the same thing as Darkness. The color properties are aptly named Hue, Saturation and Brightness. What was required from Blizzard was to decrease the brightness levels of the whole thing. What they did instead is decrease the saturation of the game making everything look washed out while keeping the brightness at Diablo 3 levels. Basically now we have very bright and very desaturated game instead of a dark game with vivid colors like Diablo 1 and 2 were. We did not want a drab game, we wanted a gothic game.
    emperorhades1
  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421
    The landscapes do tend to run in to objects. Hard to see defined lines. Like there is no sense of depth. As for the other guy, someone says one thing about saturation and he writes a novel about developers having a hard life. That got a big lol from me.
  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    Is it just me or are people have small mmo vibes with D4? Turning the cities into the lobby imo is better than being in a chat room :-) Cant wait for the beta in march!
    Asm0deus

    mmorpg junkie since 1999



  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421

    Mensur said:

    Is it just me or are people have small mmo vibes with D4? Turning the cities into the lobby imo is better than being in a chat room :-) Cant wait for the beta in march!



    From what I have "read". The cities are fairly barren. It's not as many people as you think.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    I'm sure I'll buy this eventually as I have done with pretty well every single ARPG ever made but I doubt I'll get it on day one unless the open beta experience convinces me otherwise.

    Just not hyped yet.

    I'm actually more hyped for playing an extremely OP Tal Rasha Wiz in the D3 season starting in 2 days... I might just make it to solo GR 150 finally with all the insane buffs from the seasonal "altar." :)
    OldKingLog
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  • MrdGamezMrdGamez Member UncommonPosts: 58
    edited February 2023

    Iselin said:



    Can call it Diablo IV all you want, but with the monetization it's just Diablo Immortal 2.


    Yeah P2W and the cosmetics-only battle pass are exactly the same... no difference whatsoever.



    I would be shocked if Blizzard has the same monetization for D4 as Diablo Immortal, we will see when the game comes out. I think they won't for D4, as they already have diablo immortal to milk the mobile gamers hard.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,054
    edited February 2023
    There are three franchises I buy day one:

    Monster Hunter
    Fromsoftwares’ Souls games
    Diablo

    You can all kiss my @ss.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



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    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,178
    edited February 2023
    Trying to save money and don't have the luxury of buying games when they release. One of the things I'm cutting down on. It will be there for me to get which I definitely intend to in 6 months to a year when the price hopefully comes down a tad.

    Hopefully my 1070 can run it well.

  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,585

    MrdGamez said:



    Iselin said:






    Can call it Diablo IV all you want, but with the monetization it's just Diablo Immortal 2.




    Yeah P2W and the cosmetics-only battle pass are exactly the same... no difference whatsoever.






    I would be shocked if Blizzard has the same monetization for D4 as Diablo Immortal, we will see when the game comes out. I think they won't for D4, as they already have diablo immortal to milk the mobile gamers hard.



    They won't. It's a b2p game, not a f2p one. The monetization is much more confined, being an opt-in battle pass with cosmetic rewards. However, I would not be surprised for it to have purchasable expansions down the line featuring additional classes as previous Diablo games on PC have done.
    Iselin
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    MrdGamez said:



    Iselin said:






    Can call it Diablo IV all you want, but with the monetization it's just Diablo Immortal 2.




    Yeah P2W and the cosmetics-only battle pass are exactly the same... no difference whatsoever.






    I would be shocked if Blizzard has the same monetization for D4 as Diablo Immortal, we will see when the game comes out. I think they won't for D4, as they already have diablo immortal to milk the mobile gamers hard.



    They won't. It's a b2p game, not a f2p one. The monetization is much more confined, being an opt-in battle pass with cosmetic rewards. However, I would not be surprised for it to have purchasable expansions down the line featuring additional classes as previous Diablo games on PC have done.
    Agree about expansions with classes.

    Also a small correction. Diablo Immortal was not just a F2P game, it was a mobile game, aimed at that market which is heavily a pay-to-win market.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    edited April 2023
    Angrakhan said:
    Haha you guys crack me up.

    Diablo 3 comes out
    You: oh it looks like a cartoon. So bright and colorful. Looks like a unicorn farting rainbows. Diablo 2 was so much better
    Diablo 3 team literally makes level with unicorns farting rainbows to spoof your comments
    Diablo 4 releases trailer with artwork inspired by Diablo 2
    You: oh it's so drab. Too much saturation. So boring to look at.

    You guys are literally impossible to satisfy. Absolutely nothing the Diablo 4 team does will be acceptable to you.

    So glad I'm not a game developer. I can't imagine what it's like spending years of your life working on a game trying to chase an impossibly fickle fan base. How incredibly frustrating.

    Probably different people saying different things.
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Angrakhan said:
    <snip>
    You guys are literally impossible to satisfy. Absolutely nothing the Diablo 4 team does will be acceptable to you.

    They haven't tried dumping a few dozen stacks of cash in my yard that I've noticed.  The lawn maintenance crew have been overly attentive, though.



    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,208
    Mendel said:
    Angrakhan said:
    <snip>
    You guys are literally impossible to satisfy. Absolutely nothing the Diablo 4 team does will be acceptable to you.

    They haven't tried dumping a few dozen stacks of cash in my yard that I've noticed.  The lawn maintenance crew have been overly attentive, though.



    Wow how you get banned I never see you go crazy.  Hope you make it back.
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