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Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Goes in Depth on Crafting and Gathering and More Ahead of April Pre-Alp

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edited April 2023 in News & Features Discussion

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Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen's March newsletter is out, and this issue marks one of change. The Producers letter covers a series of improvements on the roadmap, some details on April's pre-alpha test, and more to come. 

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  • vanderghastvanderghast Member UncommonPosts: 326
    wow....welcome to 15 years ago in gaming
  • GrymmoireGrymmoire Member UncommonPosts: 191
    And while waiting for my auto-mining to whittle down that crystal to gain ONE piece, I almost finish reading War and Peace. O.o
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483
    do the developers look at that and think yes!!!! we did it!!!
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Wow woodcutting. Really pushing the envelope there. Edge of my seat stuff almost 10 years into development. Ultima Online had that back in 1997.

    15 years ago is being nice it's actually 26...

    The really sad part is I still have a tiny bit of hope that Brad's vision will be carried like a torch and shine through when this finally releases and it will be fun to play. That hope is on the edge of a cliff hanging on by it's fingertips tho.

    The more I watch and read about this game the less confidence I have in it.

    If the next newsletter is mining and the one after that is fishing I'm just going to hang my head and slump my shoulders at my desk and sigh.
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  • hayes303hayes303 Member UncommonPosts: 431
    Take that, people who think this is vaporware....
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  • BurrickBurrick Member UncommonPosts: 11
    The game/idea/concept is as dead as Brad (R.I.P)
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    God that looks so slow and boring.

    Is there anyone left who still thinks this is the 2nd coming of EQ/Vanguard?
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  • moguy1moguy1 Member UncommonPosts: 137
    Oh dear lord. That was just painful to watch
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    They must have a gifted sleeping aid developer in their team to be able to come up with that.
     
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    It's no more painful than Ryzom gathering. However, with Ryzom gathering there is a chance your character can be damaged by what you are gathering.

    Part of the real issue here is that work has been put into crafting and they want to show off their work but not realizing that it's as riveting as a user interface demonstration.

    Clearly the animation needs to be faster. And quite frankly I'd be open to having real danger as a part of the process. Not every time but sometimes.


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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    I'm hip to the various Pantheon tricks; I saw the length of the video and saved myself 48:50 of my life that I wouldn't get back.  Really, by the time this game releases, there will be at least 60 hours of pre-alpha videos.  The real question now is if watching their videos count as game content.



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  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,768
    Fighting a rock for 10 minutes to get 1 piece of ore isn't fun. Nobody asked for this. Nephele has been there for 3 years developing crafting and this is what they came up with.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    Watching that like going through a time machine.
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  • kRuptzkRuptz Newbie CommonPosts: 13
    why does this game graphics look so much worse than i remember them from other videos
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  • VindictiivVindictiiv Member UncommonPosts: 22
    They have an entire team of developers at the Kitsap Country Senior Center working on this. It will get done. They just need to figure out a better way to move forward after each coder dies of old age.
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    achesoma said:
    Fighting a rock for 10 minutes to get 1 piece of ore isn't fun. Nobody asked for this. Nephele has been there for 3 years developing crafting and this is what they came up with.
    Seriously this gathering system is beyond stupid. Wow they are gonna give people 10-12 abilities to fight rocks and you can fight rocks in a group. When you press your dumb rock fighting ability it gives you more crit chance but you will lose health. /clap brilliant.

    I honestly can't believe this is what they came up with.

    Every single survival game where you hit tree/rock with axe/pick and get resource is better than this convoluted mess.

    How did someone go, "Yeah this looks good let's implement this."??
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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,053

    Sovrath said:

    It's no more painful than Ryzom gathering. However, with Ryzom gathering there is a chance your character can be damaged by what you are gathering.

    Part of the real issue here is that work has been put into crafting and they want to show off their work but not realizing that it's as riveting as a user interface demonstration.

    Clearly the animation needs to be faster. And quite frankly I'd be open to having real danger as a part of the process. Not every time but sometimes.





    In Ryzom, you first have to find the wood to dig it up. Wood isn't just laying around to be chopped. It takes a high prospecting skill to find high level wood. People have their own dig spots they've found and keep it secret.

    Once you find it, you can dig wood. There are 4-5 different kinds, each with 5 different quality levels. Digging is dangerous; it's a mini-game that can get you killed. So having a helper makes it go much faster and safer. Only game I know of where gathering/digging is more than a solo operation.

    They said skinning is next. I loved killing stuff in Vanguard, then skinning them and taking out body parts to upgrade my necro pet with.

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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 573
    Wow, "digging" for wood. Always thought it would be knowing what tree or such you are looking to get wood from and then taking an axe to it.
    Mendel
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    Sovrath said:
    It's no more painful than Ryzom gathering. However, with Ryzom gathering there is a chance your character can be damaged by what you are gathering.

    Part of the real issue here is that work has been put into crafting and they want to show off their work but not realizing that it's as riveting as a user interface demonstration.

    Clearly the animation needs to be faster. And quite frankly I'd be open to having real danger as a part of the process. Not every time but sometimes.
    Imho there needs to be danger every single time.

    Or alternatively some detection where if you're not in immediate danger the gathering takes only a couple of seconds.
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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,206
    I think they are using the same AI to control both the rock and bears, its just standing there while you taking damage somehow?

    I skipped through and didnt watch the entire thing but since they want it to be a group thing, was the loot group based/rolled or can someone just ninja it?

    Also what is up with taking damage while fighting rocks?  Is that supposed to simulate putting a pick in your foot or something, I am confused by this.  I am also confused by what are the tactics exactly for this?  It seems the guy just spammed all his abilities until his health was low.  Add a pocket healer and just keep spamming? 

    What is the gameplay here that is supposed to be fun.
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    Jamar870 said:
    Wow, "digging" for wood. Always thought it would be knowing what tree or such you are looking to get wood from and then taking an axe to it.

     Confucius say...Not always is it a tree one looks to get wood from.


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  • GrymmoireGrymmoire Member UncommonPosts: 191

    Remali said:

    Game is ready to compete with future mmos when its out in 2035
    Not!



    Did you mean in 2525? lol
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