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Old hardware is it worth it?

cichy1012cichy1012 Member UncommonPosts: 347
edited April 2023 in Hardware
Help me out here. I have a bunch of spare parts laying around and wondering if slapping this together will do for some decent gaming. Stuff is so old I cant remember. Is it even worth messing with?

ASUS TUF SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+
amd fx 8350 black edition
CORSAIR Vengeance 16 gb DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) can always upgrade.
1060 gtx  video card-if I put in something better would it be worth it? 
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  • xdave78xdave78 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Depends on…but not really for games after 2020 except low spec games. 
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,650
    I think it depends on what you want to play and at what resolution. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSfGrOFd6KU

    I think the CPU is the biggest question but heres a video showing how it performs in some benchmarks and it looks like it would be worth it to me since you have it all laying around.

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  • xdave78xdave78 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    But you can easily cut 30% due to the 1060.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited April 2023
    The CPU isn't worth it for gaming computer. Even new cheap CPU like I3-13100F (at the moment $124) would be about 150% faster. 

    EDIT: Fixed typo on CPU name /EDIT

    I think you mistyped the GPU. Afaik 1060 TI doesn't exists. If it's 1660 Ti then it's still a decent GPU, and you could build otherwise new computer but use that GPU.
     
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Vrika said:
    The CPU isn't worth it for gaming computer. Even new cheap CPU like I3-13100F (at the moment $124) would be about 150% faster. 

    EDIT: Fixed typo on CPU name /EDIT

    I think you mistyped the GPU. Afaik 1060 TI doesn't exists. If it's 1660 Ti then it's still a decent GPU, and you could build otherwise new computer but use that GPU.

    I think the reference to a "1060 Ti" is a typo for "1050 Ti" (the very card I run).  Fatfingering happens to us all.



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  • cichy1012cichy1012 Member UncommonPosts: 347
    Vrika said:
    The CPU isn't worth it for gaming computer. Even new cheap CPU like I3-13100F (at the moment $124) would be about 150% faster. 

    EDIT: Fixed typo on CPU name /EDIT

    I think you mistyped the GPU. Afaik 1060 TI doesn't exists. If it's 1660 Ti then it's still a decent GPU, and you could build otherwise new computer but use that GPU.
    i meant 1060 gtx
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited April 2023
    cichy1012 said:
    Vrika said:
    The CPU isn't worth it for gaming computer. Even new cheap CPU like I3-13100F (at the moment $124) would be about 150% faster. 

    EDIT: Fixed typo on CPU name /EDIT

    I think you mistyped the GPU. Afaik 1060 TI doesn't exists. If it's 1660 Ti then it's still a decent GPU, and you could build otherwise new computer but use that GPU.
    i meant 1060 gtx
    GTX 1060 is at the limit where it will still run most games adequately, but you'll also encounter some games that it wouldn't run.

    If you have CPU + motherboard + RAM + GPU, what other components do you have ready? If you've got ready complete components for a computer, then there's no harm in building a computer out of them, and it would run a lot of the games even if it wouldn't run all of the newest games.

    But if you'd need to start buying case, power supply and hard disk, then at least I personally would try to get money for completely new computer instead of using any to get those old components running again. They are so old it's time to think about their retirement, not spend money on them.

    If you're tight on money you could also build otherwise new computer now but use that old GPU, then later on buy a new GPU as separate purchase - on the logic that switching GPU later on is easy and fast. You could do a build like that with about $500, example build, at the time of writing $463: 
      https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jkcr4s
    This example build is done assuming the builder is very tight on money. Its 600W GPU is powerful enough to support the $300 GPUs, but not the $500+ GPUs.
     
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    Slapshot1188 said:
    I think it depends on what you want to play and at what resolution. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSfGrOFd6KU

    I think the CPU is the biggest question but heres a video showing how it performs in some benchmarks and it looks like it would be worth it to me since you have it all laying around.
    The GPU on that video is 1660 Super. It's about 30% faster than OP's GTX 1060.
     
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,650
    Vrika said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    I think it depends on what you want to play and at what resolution. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSfGrOFd6KU

    I think the CPU is the biggest question but heres a video showing how it performs in some benchmarks and it looks like it would be worth it to me since you have it all laying around.
    The GPU on that video is 1660 Super. It's about 30% faster than OP's GTX 1060.
    Is the GPU the bottleneck?

    I can tell you I run everything including Star Citizen on my 1060 6gb

    1080 resolution of course, but I have never yet encountered a game that I couldnt play pretty well.

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    It depends on what games you want to play.  Some games will run very well on that.  Some games will really struggle.  If you're GPU limited, you fix it in most games by reducing settings.  The poor single-threaded CPU performance will be a serious problem in some games, but irrelevant in others.

    If you already have all of the parts so that it costs you nothing but time to assemble them, then I'd say sure, do it.  If you're considering spending a few hundred dollars to buy additional parts to fill out the system, then it's a lot less interesting.  But why do you happen to have those parts?
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited April 2023
    Vrika said:
    I think it depends on what you want to play and at what resolution. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSfGrOFd6KU

    I think the CPU is the biggest question but heres a video showing how it performs in some benchmarks and it looks like it would be worth it to me since you have it all laying around.
    The GPU on that video is 1660 Super. It's about 30% faster than OP's GTX 1060.
    Is the GPU the bottleneck?

    I can tell you I run everything including Star Citizen on my 1060 6gb

    1080 resolution of course, but I have never yet encountered a game that I couldnt play pretty well.
    My post about GTX 1660 Super being maybe 30% faster didn't mean GTX 1060 would be the bottleneck, as long as you're willing to turn graphic settings down when needed it shouldn't be. I just wanted make sure that OP is aware he wouldn't get similar results as the ones in that video.

    As for GTX 1060 running everything, for example Star Wars: Jedi Survivor releasing later this month lists GTX 1070 as its minimum requirements. So GTX 1060 won't be running everything. But so far the games it won't run are really rare.
     
  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414
    edited April 2023
    Not worth it if you already have a PC. It will just collect dust. Does nVidia even support it since the GPU is 7-years old? 
    Spec-wise, it's well balanced. No one thing will hold it back. It's held back as a whole. 
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited April 2023
    Cleffy said:
    Not worth it if you already have a PC. It will just collect dust. Does nVidia even support it since the GPU is 7-years old? 
    Spec-wise, it's well balanced. No one thing will hold it back. It's held back as a whole. 
    NVidia still supports that GPU.

    Currently they're giving bug fixes for Maxwell architecture (GTX 900 series) and everything released after that. Kepler architecture (GTX 600 series) still gets critical security fixes. Fermi architecture (GTX 500 series) and earlier are out of support.
     
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,650
    Vrika said:
    Vrika said:
    I think it depends on what you want to play and at what resolution. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSfGrOFd6KU

    I think the CPU is the biggest question but heres a video showing how it performs in some benchmarks and it looks like it would be worth it to me since you have it all laying around.
    The GPU on that video is 1660 Super. It's about 30% faster than OP's GTX 1060.
    Is the GPU the bottleneck?

    I can tell you I run everything including Star Citizen on my 1060 6gb

    1080 resolution of course, but I have never yet encountered a game that I couldnt play pretty well.
    My post about GTX 1660 Super being maybe 30% faster didn't mean GTX 1060 would be the bottleneck, as long as you're willing to turn graphic settings down when needed it shouldn't be. I just wanted make sure that OP is aware he wouldn't get similar results as the ones in that video.

    As for GTX 1060 running everything, for example Star Wars: Jedi Survivor releasing later this month lists GTX 1070 as its minimum requirements. So GTX 1060 won't be running everything. But so far the games it won't run are really rare.
    I’ll give Jedi Survivor a whirl and let you know. I actually have a 1080 sitting around but haven’t needed to swap yet. 

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  • cichy1012cichy1012 Member UncommonPosts: 347
    Quizzical said:
    It depends on what games you want to play.  Some games will run very well on that.  Some games will really struggle.  If you're GPU limited, you fix it in most games by reducing settings.  The poor single-threaded CPU performance will be a serious problem in some games, but irrelevant in others.

    If you already have all of the parts so that it costs you nothing but time to assemble them, then I'd say sure, do it.  If you're considering spending a few hundred dollars to buy additional parts to fill out the system, then it's a lot less interesting.  But why do you happen to have those parts?
    it just parts from old builds that i held onto.
  • jitter77jitter77 Member UncommonPosts: 518
    I'm still running a 2nd gen i7 and am able to play games.   I have not run into a game i can not play yet, baulders gate 3 is probably the worst running i have tried.  It is more than playable, but the frame rates are usually in the 30s with a few dips.  I do not play much on my PC though because i know its nearing its gaming end.  I have been playing on Xbox X with keyboard and mouse. 
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited December 2023
    ...snip...
    Is the GPU the bottleneck?

    I can tell you I run everything including Star Citizen on my 1060 6gb

    1080 resolution of course, but I have never yet encountered a game that I couldnt play pretty well.

    You will struggle with new games with a 1060 6gb.

    I have been playing Avatar Frontiers of pandora on my 5800x and the 1080ti is a bottle neck, is maxed out in usage and I play 1080p too.

    I recently upgrade my son PC (early xmas present, from  3570k@4.2ghz 4 core intel cpu to a 7800x3d, cause his cpu was maxed out in usage for most games he played...even new world was a stutterfest due to the cpu being maxed out with the rise of earth update.  He has a 1060 gpu for now.

    It seems to also be a rising trend with new games to be super unoptimized with the expectation you will power through that with a high end gpu.....and if you mention it in official forums you are told to upgrade your potato PC.

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • MMOman101MMOman101 Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Depends on what you are trying to achieve.  If you have a pc and it is better, why do you need this. Do you have a wife or kids that need one? If you don't have a pc, anything is better than nothing.

    “It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”

    --John Ruskin







  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    The thread is 8 months old. It's unlikely that the OP would still be looking for advice.
     
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