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NCSoft Showcases 25 Years of Flagship MMORPGs and New Throne and Liberty Footage | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited May 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageNCSoft Showcases 25 Years of Flagship MMORPGs and New Throne and Liberty Footage | MMORPG.com

On the day the latest Korean closed beta goes live, NCSoft has released a new video showcasing 25 years of MMORPG flagship titles, including some new Throne and Liberty footage.

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,677
    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.
    LePetitSoldatValentina
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,936
    edited May 2023

    Dattelis said:

    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.



    Yes, its easy to make something look good when its a CG trailer and not game play. I am starting to have some real doubts about this one. At least its low risk to try it.
    DattelisIceAgeAndemnon
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,677
    edited May 2023

    Nanfoodle said:



    Dattelis said:


    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.






    Yes, its easy to make something look good when its a CG trailer and not game play. I am starting to have some read doubts about this one. At least its low risk to try it.



    That's kind of the sad part about all of this. The mmorpg community as a whole seems so starved for something 'new' that even this will probably see 10s of thousands at least try it in its first month (even Bless regular was able to pull in like 20k+ its first month before the huge fall off). Korea wants to keep pumping out mobile games ported to pc while actual western companies are either kickstarted or trying to nickle and dime everything as much as they can while keeping development costs at a bare minimum. All the 'big' mmorpgs are at like 10+ years old at this point.
    NanfoodleAndemnon
  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,109
    TL looks really boring and generic, was watching streams of it this morning it's basically just the "next generation" of auto-combat mobile ick
    Andemnon
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    edited May 2023
    Nanfoodle said:

    Dattelis said:

    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.



    Yes, its easy to make something look good when its a CG trailer and not game play. I am starting to have some real doubts about this one. At least its low risk to try it.

    Just don't buy any starter packs! NCsoft's reputation on keeping struggling games going for longer than two years is pretty abysmal. If this one starts to flop they will pull the plug fast. I do however have this feeling that if botting can be kept in checked it may be a popular title.

    Edit: and with that I just earned my 10k comments badge. 10k of pointless comments I've made along with 18 other unlucky souls xD
    NanfoodleAndemnon
    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,936

    Tiller said:


    Nanfoodle said:



    Dattelis said:


    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.






    Yes, its easy to make something look good when its a CG trailer and not game play. I am starting to have some real doubts about this one. At least its low risk to try it.



    Just don't buy any starter packs! NCsoft's reputation on keeping struggling games going for longer than two years is pretty abysmal. If this one starts to flop they will pull the plug fast. I do however have this feeling that if botting can be kept in checked it may be a popular title.

    Edit: and with that I just earned my 10k comments badge. 10k of pointless comments I've made along with 18 other unlucky souls xD



    Grats on the badge. On a side note, I am done playing sub par MMOs just because I want to play an MMO. Lots of AAA games out there to play while I wait for an MMO worth my time. I dont ask allot, it just has to be solid and fun.
    TillerValdheimAndemnon
  • BoomaxBoomax Member UncommonPosts: 9
    The beta footage literally shows this game to have auto combat, auto pathing, gamepass, and percentage based item upgrades. Why pretend this is something to be excited about?

    Why not write an accurate article depicting the garbage that is being presented to consumers...
    Andemnon
  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,347
    Are they going to show City of Heroes or Wildstar in their celebration?
    Truvidienn
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,936
    Boomax said:
    The beta footage literally shows this game to have auto combat, auto pathing, gamepass, and percentage based item upgrades. Why pretend this is something to be excited about?

    Why not write an accurate article depicting the garbage that is being presented to consumers...
    While I feel allot the same way but there is only a small hope we can hang on. That the West copy of the game, removes most of that. I know I am not upset by auto traveling like BDO does it but the auto combat stuff needs to go. 
    Andemnon
  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 826
    Dattelis said:
    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.
    The korean CB is not going over well.  Lots of ppl saying it plays just like a mobile game.
    NanfoodleDattelisAndemnon
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,936
    Groqstrong said:
    Dattelis said:
    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.
    The korean CB is not going over well.  Lots of ppl saying it plays just like a mobile game.
    For a game thats been remade what, 3 times? 10+ years in the making? If its as bad as all that, someone needs to get fired! I really hope this is not the case. 
    DattelisAndemnon
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,446
    Alverant said:
    Are they going to show City of Heroes or Wildstar in their celebration?
    Have to squeeze them in between Auto Assault, Dungeon Runners, Western Lineage servers, and Tabula Rasa.
    Alverant
    Bring back the Naked Chicken Chalupa!
  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 826

    Nanfoodle said:


    Groqstrong said:


    Dattelis said:

    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.


    The korean CB is not going over well.  Lots of ppl saying it plays just like a mobile game.


    For a game thats been remade what, 3 times? 10+ years in the making? If its as bad as all that, someone needs to get fired! I really hope this is not the case. 



    Me too, im going to reserve all judgement until i can get hands on with it but i wasnt anticipating such a bad reaction.
    NanfoodleAndemnon
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,677

    Nanfoodle said:


    Groqstrong said:


    Dattelis said:

    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.


    The korean CB is not going over well.  Lots of ppl saying it plays just like a mobile game.


    For a game thats been remade what, 3 times? 10+ years in the making? If its as bad as all that, someone needs to get fired! I really hope this is not the case. 



    Ngl, I feel like it would go over better if NCSoft just sold the rights of Wildstar to AGS and let AGS work on it. Wildstar had a good framework and definitely would do well in the current mmorpg climate.
    ValdheimNanfoodle
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    Dattelis said:

    Nanfoodle said:


    Groqstrong said:


    Dattelis said:

    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.


    The korean CB is not going over well.  Lots of ppl saying it plays just like a mobile game.


    For a game thats been remade what, 3 times? 10+ years in the making? If its as bad as all that, someone needs to get fired! I really hope this is not the case. 



    Ngl, I feel like it would go over better if NCSoft just sold the rights of Wildstar to AGS and let AGS work on it. Wildstar had a good framework and definitely would do well in the current mmorpg climate.

    It was too cartoony for most.
    Andemnon
    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,677

    Tiller said:


    Dattelis said:



    Nanfoodle said:




    Groqstrong said:




    Dattelis said:


    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.




    The korean CB is not going over well.  Lots of ppl saying it plays just like a mobile game.




    For a game thats been remade what, 3 times? 10+ years in the making? If its as bad as all that, someone needs to get fired! I really hope this is not the case. 






    Ngl, I feel like it would go over better if NCSoft just sold the rights of Wildstar to AGS and let AGS work on it. Wildstar had a good framework and definitely would do well in the current mmorpg climate.



    It was too cartoony for most.



    It wasn't any more cartoon looking than WoW? Many people just argue the development was flawed. Too many poorly implemented systems and the combat felt like it still needed work for some. https://biobreak.wordpress.com/2021/08/24/why-wildstar-failed/ If they at least sold it off to AGS with an actual development team, it could do quite well given how desperate the current market is. Even Rift could do well if it had an actual development team. Nothing has been developed for that game in years. That's honestly how AGS should spend their money to see some turn around which they definitely aren't recovering from with New World and Lost Ark (with 3-4 projects canned that are known about and them supposedly giving the LotR mmorpg another shot after originally cancelling it).
    cheyaneValdheimValdemarJAlverantChampie
  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,347
    Tiller said:
    Dattelis said:

    Nanfoodle said:


    Groqstrong said:


    Dattelis said:

    That new TL mobile footage looks amazing.


    The korean CB is not going over well.  Lots of ppl saying it plays just like a mobile game.


    For a game thats been remade what, 3 times? 10+ years in the making? If its as bad as all that, someone needs to get fired! I really hope this is not the case. 



    Ngl, I feel like it would go over better if NCSoft just sold the rights of Wildstar to AGS and let AGS work on it. Wildstar had a good framework and definitely would do well in the current mmorpg climate.

    It was too cartoony for most.
    For me that was part of the appeal. It had a sense of humor and fun while everyone else was working on graphics.
    Champie
  • UwakionnaUwakionna Member RarePosts: 1,139
    Think the visuals for the graphics were fine to me. The Interrobang level up and UI was a little overkill.

    I think the visuals could have worked well to their favor if they had more narrative to drive the setting. It was right on that cusp of being solid for CG/machinimation, and would have worked great for pushing the setting in that method.
    ValdemarJ
  • XophXoph Member UncommonPosts: 184
    Article is full of inaccurate information.

    T&L was not a Lineage 2 sequel.

    Lineage Eternal was a sequel to Lineage 1.

    Project T&L didn't exist in 2011, it was Lineage Eternal in 2011.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,936
    edited May 2023
    Maybe worth passing this around if you care

    https://throneandliberty.online/poll-what-do-you-think-about-throne-and-liberty-so-far/

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