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The US Federal Trade Commission Sues, Requests Injunction Blocking Microsoft-Activision Blizzard Dea

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The United States Federal Trade Commission has sued in an attempt to prevent the deal for Microsoft to acquire Activision Blizzard from closing.

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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421
    The deal is anti competitive. But..... Someone needs to buy the Diablo IP so they can make a good game.
    HeretiqueLePetitSoldatDekahn
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485


    The deal is anti competitive. But..... Someone needs to buy the Diablo IP so they can make a good game.



    Or an ARPG Candy Crush
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    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    Bah, look at how many game developers they are. Worry about the soon to be crash that's headed towards the economy like a bullet.
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,417
    This will be fun to watch. Digging in with the anti-competitive angle is going to be a hard row to hoe. The FTC has to prove some things that are super hard to prove even in a slam dunk situation, which this isn't. I'm curious the angle they're going for and am fully convinced this political posturing in an election cycle where the government wants to look like it has "big tech" under control (it doesn't).
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423


    I hope it never goes through and both companies falter and die on the ESG they all love to put into games that have no need for it. Leave children alone!



    I haven't a clue what you are going on about mate but you are entitled to your opinion.
    mklinic
  • MMOgamerdad666MMOgamerdad666 Member UncommonPosts: 36

    Scot said:





    I hope it never goes through and both companies falter and die on the ESG they all love to put into games that have no need for it. Leave children alone!






    I haven't a clue what you are going on about mate but you are entitled to your opinion.



    The reason we got body types instead of male/female in World of Warcraft. The reason they took out artwork/content from World of Warcraft because someone might be offended. Etc Etc.
    ScotDhampirAndemnon
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423

    Scot said:





    I hope it never goes through and both companies falter and die on the ESG they all love to put into games that have no need for it. Leave children alone!






    I haven't a clue what you are going on about mate but you are entitled to your opinion.



    The reason we got body types instead of male/female in World of Warcraft. The reason they took out artwork/content from World of Warcraft because someone might be offended. Etc Etc.
    I see, but as we do have those on here who like to get people banned for having an opinion lets leave it there.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    edited June 2023
    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!
    ScotKyleranSignexIselinMallyx
  • Erinak1Erinak1 Member UncommonPosts: 207

    JeroKane said:

    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!



    So, I cant say I really care how the thing ends up but you can't really compare a big umbrella corp buying up individual game studios to a huge umbrella corp buying up another umbrella corp.
    TillerDelondial
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    edited June 2023
    Erinak1 said:

    JeroKane said:

    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!



    So, I cant say I really care how the thing ends up but you can't really compare a big umbrella corp buying up individual game studios to a huge umbrella corp buying up another umbrella corp.
    The point is that SONY started this whole anti-competiveness in the first place.
    It's the reason why XBOX sells so bad in countries like Japan, since all major game franchises that are popular in Japan are PS exclusives, held hostage by SONY.

    Japan is a huge gaming market, where Microsoft doesn't stand a chance against SONY.

    When it comes to Activision..... they are highly overrated. Blizzard isn't as huge as it used to be. WoW is a mere shadow of what it once was. Overwatch was basically a failure from Project Titan. All they manage to do now is recycling their old IP's.
    ActiVision itself is just hanging on one IP alone, which is Call of Duty.

    The Activision board clearly wants to cash in and sell out. So if Microsoft is denied, they just find another buyer like TenCent, which frankly would be much worse outcome. Giving even more power to China corporations.
    SignexIselin
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
    IMO the FTC could have dragged this out but they went right to a law suit. This really helps MS as this gives them the option to show how they are not anti completive in court very soon. FTC knows they wont do well here but does show them not just rubber stamping things. This is still just a big show.
  • SplitStream13SplitStream13 Member UncommonPosts: 253

    Nanfoodle said:

    IMO the FTC could have dragged this out but they went right to a law suit. This really helps MS as this gives them the option to show how they are not anti completive in court very soon. FTC knows they wont do well here but does show them not just rubber stamping things. This is still just a big show.



    Show with taxpayer's money. If they lose the case, I expect some major question marks. If they win this case, I expect even bigger question marks :D Man...

    And that is before we start talking about collusion with CMA
    Andemnon
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900

    Nanfoodle said:

    IMO the FTC could have dragged this out but they went right to a law suit. This really helps MS as this gives them the option to show how they are not anti completive in court very soon. FTC knows they wont do well here but does show them not just rubber stamping things. This is still just a big show.



    Show with taxpayer's money. If they lose the case, I expect some major question marks. If they win this case, I expect even bigger question marks :D Man...

    And that is before we start talking about collusion with CMA
    Its all formality and pomp. MS has proven by their actions they are actually opening up the market to give more competition. ABK games under MS will have these games on more platforms. The only one this hurts is Sony and that matter squat as Sony has more studios and 5 times more exclusives then Xbox. In open court this is a easy open and shut case.   
    NeoyoshiJeroKane
  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,489
    edited June 2023
    And the saga continues...


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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423
    JeroKane said:
    Erinak1 said:

    JeroKane said:

    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!



    So, I cant say I really care how the thing ends up but you can't really compare a big umbrella corp buying up individual game studios to a huge umbrella corp buying up another umbrella corp.
    The point is that SONY started this whole anti-competiveness in the first place.
    It's the reason why XBOX sells so bad in countries like Japan, since all major game franchises that are popular in Japan are PS exclusives, held hostage by SONY.

    Japan is a huge gaming market, where Microsoft doesn't stand a chance against SONY.

    When it comes to Activision..... they are highly overrated. Blizzard isn't as huge as it used to be. WoW is a mere shadow of what it once was. Overwatch was basically a failure from Project Titan. All they manage to do now is recycling their old IP's.
    ActiVision itself is just hanging on one IP alone, which is Call of Duty.

    The Activision board clearly wants to cash in and sell out. So if Microsoft is denied, they just find another buyer like TenCent, which frankly would be much worse outcome. Giving even more power to China corporations.
    I have said before that regulatory bodies follow what is in the media too much, this deal got repeated MSM headlines, Ten Cent does not. When it comes to Sony, back in the days of Xbox the regulatory bodies in question where not as active as they are now, the more money gaming makes the more governments will deem it needs regulation, rightly or wrongly. 
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,045
    JeroKane said:
    Erinak1 said:

    JeroKane said:

    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!



    So, I cant say I really care how the thing ends up but you can't really compare a big umbrella corp buying up individual game studios to a huge umbrella corp buying up another umbrella corp.
    The point is that SONY started this whole anti-competiveness in the first place.
    It's the reason why XBOX sells so bad in countries like Japan, since all major game franchises that are popular in Japan are PS exclusives, held hostage by SONY.

    Japan is a huge gaming market, where Microsoft doesn't stand a chance against SONY.

    When it comes to Activision..... they are highly overrated. Blizzard isn't as huge as it used to be. WoW is a mere shadow of what it once was. Overwatch was basically a failure from Project Titan. All they manage to do now is recycling their old IP's.
    ActiVision itself is just hanging on one IP alone, which is Call of Duty.

    The Activision board clearly wants to cash in and sell out. So if Microsoft is denied, they just find another buyer like TenCent, which frankly would be much worse outcome. Giving even more power to China corporations.

    Well, this post is a fun little bit of nonsense.

    Nintendo started the anti-competitive practices.

    Xbox never had a chance in Japan. Ever.

    Also, MS doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Sony?! Sony doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Nintendo.

    You don't need to buy exclusives when they were never going to be offered to the competition in the first place.

    With Playstation outselling the Xbox at the very least 2:1 it likely isn't worth Square Enix's time to port games to the Xbox.

    Activision Blizzard may be overrated but games like CoD and Candy Crush makes billions every year. Diablo 4 just did $600 million in 5 days.
    KyleranAeanderAndemnon
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,417
    JeroKane said:
    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!

    Don't forget The Embracer Group (formerly THQ Nordic), which is a European mega conglomerate that is hoovering up other large umbrella corps at a brisk pace. The breadth and scope of what they own is truly staggering. And no one on any continent has even flinched because they're aren't one of the big US tech companies.
    Nanfoodle
    Bring back the Naked Chicken Chalupa!
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    edited June 2023

    Xiaoki said:


    JeroKane said:


    Erinak1 said:



    JeroKane said:


    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!






    So, I cant say I really care how the thing ends up but you can't really compare a big umbrella corp buying up individual game studios to a huge umbrella corp buying up another umbrella corp.


    The point is that SONY started this whole anti-competiveness in the first place.
    It's the reason why XBOX sells so bad in countries like Japan, since all major game franchises that are popular in Japan are PS exclusives, held hostage by SONY.

    Japan is a huge gaming market, where Microsoft doesn't stand a chance against SONY.

    When it comes to Activision..... they are highly overrated. Blizzard isn't as huge as it used to be. WoW is a mere shadow of what it once was. Overwatch was basically a failure from Project Titan. All they manage to do now is recycling their old IP's.
    ActiVision itself is just hanging on one IP alone, which is Call of Duty.

    The Activision board clearly wants to cash in and sell out. So if Microsoft is denied, they just find another buyer like TenCent, which frankly would be much worse outcome. Giving even more power to China corporations.



    Well, this post is a fun little bit of nonsense.

    Nintendo started the anti-competitive practices.

    Xbox never had a chance in Japan. Ever.

    Also, MS doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Sony?! Sony doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Nintendo.

    You don't need to buy exclusives when they were never going to be offered to the competition in the first place.

    With Playstation outselling the Xbox at the very least 2:1 it likely isn't worth Square Enix's time to port games to the Xbox.

    Activision Blizzard may be overrated but games like CoD and Candy Crush makes billions every year. Diablo 4 just did $600 million in 5 days.



    Nintendo makes it's own IP's (Super Mario, Zelda, etc) since the 80's and keeps them exclusive to themselves, to keep their consoles relevant. It's still their own created I`P's and games.
    Still, in the grand scheme of things, Nintendo is a little dwarf now compared to Sony and Microsoft XBOX.
    Yes they sold a ton of Wii consoles. They sell a ton of Switch consoles now, but the fact is the amount of high profile games that sell on XBOX and Playstation completely dwarfs Nintendo.
    Nintendo wouldn't even sell any consoles anymore if they made their own IP's multiplatform.
    Big popular franchises like CoD, Battlefield, FIFA, etc sell 50-80+ million copies world wide. Nintendo's big IP's only sell a fraction of that.

    Now, the Pokemon Company on the other hand. That's a different matter. That is a multi billion dollar business due to their Pokemon TCG, merchandise and Animations. The Pokemon games itself are actually a very small percentage of their income. The TCG and merchandise makes way more money.

    SONY themselves don't have any major original IP's, unlike Nintendo. They just started buying up studios with great IP's and made them exclusive to Playstation.

    Microsoft just had to follow suit, to keep their console business relevant and competitive to SONY.

    XBOX360 outsold the PS3, but since PS4... SONY started to outsell XBOX due to having a much higher number of exclusive games.

    Hence, my point here again! SONY has been and still is far worse than Microsoft in buying up large gaming studios to block big game titles on XBOX.
    That's why SONY is just a big fat hypocrite company and why they can't stop Microsoft from buying ActiVision!

    Don't get me wrong. I don't condone any of this, but Sony started this exclusive race and Microsoft simply doesn't have a choice at this point to keep doing the same. Still Microsoft has become way more open with many games and the amount of games they keep exclusive to XBOX is far smaller than SONY.

    Microsoft is also not stupid, when they acquire Activsion, that they would make CoD suddenly XBOX exclusive and so leave 1+ billion $$ in yearly Playstation sale revenue on the table, not to mention the huge backlash it would create. So that argument of SONY had already been debunked right from the bat.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,056
    edited June 2023
    ValdemarJ said:
    JeroKane said:
    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!

    Don't forget The Embracer Group (formerly THQ Nordic), which is a European mega conglomerate that is hoovering up other large umbrella corps at a brisk pace. The breadth and scope of what they own is truly staggering. And no one on any continent has even flinched because they're aren't one of the big US tech companies.
    Might be flinching a bit now with Embracer's announcement today they are going through a reorganization, layoffs pending, yada yada.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
    JeroKane said:

    Xiaoki said:


    JeroKane said:


    Erinak1 said:



    JeroKane said:


    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!






    So, I cant say I really care how the thing ends up but you can't really compare a big umbrella corp buying up individual game studios to a huge umbrella corp buying up another umbrella corp.


    The point is that SONY started this whole anti-competiveness in the first place.
    It's the reason why XBOX sells so bad in countries like Japan, since all major game franchises that are popular in Japan are PS exclusives, held hostage by SONY.

    Japan is a huge gaming market, where Microsoft doesn't stand a chance against SONY.

    When it comes to Activision..... they are highly overrated. Blizzard isn't as huge as it used to be. WoW is a mere shadow of what it once was. Overwatch was basically a failure from Project Titan. All they manage to do now is recycling their old IP's.
    ActiVision itself is just hanging on one IP alone, which is Call of Duty.

    The Activision board clearly wants to cash in and sell out. So if Microsoft is denied, they just find another buyer like TenCent, which frankly would be much worse outcome. Giving even more power to China corporations.



    Well, this post is a fun little bit of nonsense.

    Nintendo started the anti-competitive practices.

    Xbox never had a chance in Japan. Ever.

    Also, MS doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Sony?! Sony doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Nintendo.

    You don't need to buy exclusives when they were never going to be offered to the competition in the first place.

    With Playstation outselling the Xbox at the very least 2:1 it likely isn't worth Square Enix's time to port games to the Xbox.

    Activision Blizzard may be overrated but games like CoD and Candy Crush makes billions every year. Diablo 4 just did $600 million in 5 days.



    Nintendo makes it's own IP's (Super Mario, Zelda, etc) since the 80's and keeps them exclusive to themselves, to keep their consoles relevant. It's still their own created I`P's and games.
    Still, in the grand scheme of things, Nintendo is a little dwarf now compared to Sony and Microsoft XBOX.
    Yes they sold a ton of Wii consoles. They sell a ton of Switch consoles now, but the fact is the amount of high profile games that sell on XBOX and Playstation completely dwarfs Nintendo.
    Nintendo wouldn't even sell any consoles anymore if they made their own IP's multiplatform.
    Big popular franchises like CoD, Battlefield, FIFA, etc sell 50-80+ million copies world wide. Nintendo's big IP's only sell a fraction of that.

    Now, the Pokemon Company on the other hand. That's a different matter. That is a multi billion dollar business due to their Pokemon TCG, merchandise and Animations. The Pokemon games itself are actually a very small percentage of their income. The TCG and merchandise makes way more money.

    SONY themselves don't have any major original IP's, unlike Nintendo. They just started buying up studios with great IP's and made them exclusive to Playstation.

    Microsoft just had to follow suit, to keep their console business relevant and competitive to SONY.

    XBOX360 outsold the PS3, but since PS4... SONY started to outsell XBOX due to having a much higher number of exclusive games.

    Hence, my point here again! SONY has been and still is far worse than Microsoft in buying up large gaming studios to block big game titles on XBOX.
    That's why SONY is just a big fat hypocrite company and why they can't stop Microsoft from buying ActiVision!

    Don't get me wrong. I don't condone any of this, but Sony started this exclusive race and Microsoft simply doesn't have a choice at this point to keep doing the same. Still Microsoft has become way more open with many games and the amount of games they keep exclusive to XBOX is far smaller than SONY.

    Microsoft is also not stupid, when they acquire Activsion, that they would make CoD suddenly XBOX exclusive and so leave 1+ billion $$ in yearly Playstation sale revenue on the table, not to mention the huge backlash it would create. So that argument of SONY had already been debunked right from the bat.
    Nintendo and Sony and MS all do the same thing. Scale is the only difference. They all buy talent and studios to grow their vision. Some plans better then others. MS failed really badly with Xbox One area with some real stupid ideas. If they had kept step with their Xbox 360 area, Sony would not be in the position they are now. Thats why MS wants ABK to try and make up for lost ground. IP's means little, its talent and the good games they can make. Proof of that is SW, one of the biggest and most popular IP's and yet they have had some really bad games that did not sell well. We can make a list a mile long of great IPs that have had bad games. 
    ValdemarJAndemnonScot
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    JeroKane said:
    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!
    If it's just game studios, then it's a highly competitive market.  The markets for game consoles (hardware, not games), operating systems, and cloud hosts are far less competitive.  Those factors show up when Microsoft tries to buy someone, but not when Tencent does.
    Vrika
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,045
    JeroKane said:

    Xiaoki said:


    JeroKane said:


    Erinak1 said:



    JeroKane said:


    Meanwhile in Asia.... behemoths like TenCent have been buying companies like mad, including western game studios.

    No one stopped TenCent? 

    And in the West, what about EA?  Hasn't that become a behemoth on itself as well?  Ubisoft isn't exactly small either nor is 2K interactive.

    And what about the biggest hypocrite of all..... SONY.  They started buying large game studios and started this whole exclusive madness in the first place.
    Recent exclusivity blocks like Final Fantasy 7 remake, Final Fantasy 16, Death Stranding, etc.


    But somehow Microsoft XBOX is the big evil now? LOL!






    So, I cant say I really care how the thing ends up but you can't really compare a big umbrella corp buying up individual game studios to a huge umbrella corp buying up another umbrella corp.


    The point is that SONY started this whole anti-competiveness in the first place.
    It's the reason why XBOX sells so bad in countries like Japan, since all major game franchises that are popular in Japan are PS exclusives, held hostage by SONY.

    Japan is a huge gaming market, where Microsoft doesn't stand a chance against SONY.

    When it comes to Activision..... they are highly overrated. Blizzard isn't as huge as it used to be. WoW is a mere shadow of what it once was. Overwatch was basically a failure from Project Titan. All they manage to do now is recycling their old IP's.
    ActiVision itself is just hanging on one IP alone, which is Call of Duty.

    The Activision board clearly wants to cash in and sell out. So if Microsoft is denied, they just find another buyer like TenCent, which frankly would be much worse outcome. Giving even more power to China corporations.



    Well, this post is a fun little bit of nonsense.

    Nintendo started the anti-competitive practices.

    Xbox never had a chance in Japan. Ever.

    Also, MS doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Sony?! Sony doesn't stand a chance in Japan because of Nintendo.

    You don't need to buy exclusives when they were never going to be offered to the competition in the first place.

    With Playstation outselling the Xbox at the very least 2:1 it likely isn't worth Square Enix's time to port games to the Xbox.

    Activision Blizzard may be overrated but games like CoD and Candy Crush makes billions every year. Diablo 4 just did $600 million in 5 days.



    Nintendo makes it's own IP's (Super Mario, Zelda, etc) since the 80's and keeps them exclusive to themselves, to keep their consoles relevant. It's still their own created I`P's and games.
    Still, in the grand scheme of things, Nintendo is a little dwarf now compared to Sony and Microsoft XBOX.
    Yes they sold a ton of Wii consoles. They sell a ton of Switch consoles now, but the fact is the amount of high profile games that sell on XBOX and Playstation completely dwarfs Nintendo.
    Nintendo wouldn't even sell any consoles anymore if they made their own IP's multiplatform.
    Big popular franchises like CoD, Battlefield, FIFA, etc sell 50-80+ million copies world wide. Nintendo's big IP's only sell a fraction of that.

    Now, the Pokemon Company on the other hand. That's a different matter. That is a multi billion dollar business due to their Pokemon TCG, merchandise and Animations. The Pokemon games itself are actually a very small percentage of their income. The TCG and merchandise makes way more money.

    SONY themselves don't have any major original IP's, unlike Nintendo. They just started buying up studios with great IP's and made them exclusive to Playstation.

    Microsoft just had to follow suit, to keep their console business relevant and competitive to SONY.

    XBOX360 outsold the PS3, but since PS4... SONY started to outsell XBOX due to having a much higher number of exclusive games.

    Hence, my point here again! SONY has been and still is far worse than Microsoft in buying up large gaming studios to block big game titles on XBOX.
    That's why SONY is just a big fat hypocrite company and why they can't stop Microsoft from buying ActiVision!

    Don't get me wrong. I don't condone any of this, but Sony started this exclusive race and Microsoft simply doesn't have a choice at this point to keep doing the same. Still Microsoft has become way more open with many games and the amount of games they keep exclusive to XBOX is far smaller than SONY.

    Microsoft is also not stupid, when they acquire Activsion, that they would make CoD suddenly XBOX exclusive and so leave 1+ billion $$ in yearly Playstation sale revenue on the table, not to mention the huge backlash it would create. So that argument of SONY had already been debunked right from the bat.

    The only "large gaming studios" that Sony has bought in recent years are Insomniac and Bungie.

    MS, on the other hand, has bought billion dollar publishers like Zenimax. And Activision Blizzard is the largest third party publisher in the world.

    It's absolutely idiotic to even try to equate these things.

    Xbox has fewer exclusives because there are not many third party publishers that want Xbox exclusivity because of the low sales and even fewer first party games, and when there is a first party game it's crap like Halo Infinite or Redfall.
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    This is to the benefit of Blizzard/Microsoft. They want them to sue, because there's a probability that the FTC will lose the case and this will clear the way for them moving forward. So this is a win, I'd say, for Blizz.

    It's just a matter of time at this point.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
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    Xiaoki said:
    JeroKane said:


    The only "large gaming studios" that Sony has bought in recent years are Insomniac and Bungie.

    MS, on the other hand, has bought billion dollar publishers like Zenimax. And Activision Blizzard is the largest third party publisher in the world.

    It's absolutely idiotic to even try to equate these things.

    Xbox has fewer exclusives because there are not many third party publishers that want Xbox exclusivity because of the low sales and even fewer first party games, and when there is a first party game it's crap like Halo Infinite or Redfall.
    Point is Sony has not stopped buying studios. Here is the past two years. 

    Sony has acquired five new studios in 2021 
    1.  Bluepoint Games
    2.  Nixxes Software
    3. Housemarque
    4. Firesprite
    5. Valkyrie Entertainment
    6. Team Asobi was also reorganized into its own studio1

    Sony has acquired two studios in 2022

    1. Bungie
    2. Haven Studios

    Here is the point, Sony is the 2nd largest company that makes a console globally, that also hold 5 times more exclusives then MS. I hate ABK games but owning ABK, MS still word be in 4th place with the number of studios and exclusives games globally. 

    EDIT: Also Sony is paying companies not to put games from going on Gamepass. Many studios have said they have been paid off by Sony to block game deals. Now thats anti competitive. 
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