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ExileCon 2023: Path Of Exile 2 Is Now A Standalone Sequel, Closed Beta Coming June 2024 | MMORPG.com

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edited July 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageExileCon 2023: Path Of Exile 2 Is Now A Standalone Sequel, Closed Beta Coming June 2024 | MMORPG.com

It's been nearly four years since our last major dose of Path of Exile 2 news, but Grinding Gear Games took to the stage today to finally pull the veil back on the ARPG sequel during today's ExileCon 2023.

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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421
    Take my money. What! It's free? But.... Diablo 4 was. Doh.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Good thing GGG Tencent is a good ole Chinese non-profit and just gives their game away.
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  • lindenmeyerlindenmeyer Member UncommonPosts: 55
    they want to profit more keeping both games online... rip
    Asm0deus
  • TruvidiennTruvidienn Member UncommonPosts: 347
    This game looks amazing.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited July 2023
    Poe has been fairly decent microtransaction wise and while I don't play it hardcore I did play through all of it and endgame on and off and I only forked over for a few extra tabs and such so like $20 USD in all.

    Seeing that tencent now owns GGG I was kind of expecting more nickle and diming now that POE2 is a different game however I read this here so might be not so bad, can't be worse than D4's ridiculous pricetag anyways lol

    ....The good news is that microtransactions will still carry over across games...

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  • slowz2secretslowz2secret Member RarePosts: 449
    So one year for the closed beta and another year for the full release xD
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  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,419
    I'll take an up front $70 box fee over paying for $30 stash tabs per character and $500 cosmetic bundles to not look like a gray zombie. Besides there are better ARPGs than either Diablo or poe. But if people want to play Walmart Diablo for free and pretend that's a good deal, then :shrug:
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited July 2023
    Dunno D4 has a cash shop too methinks for bling bling.....soooooo. 

    I get lots of peeps like D4, I like the lore of it however lots of peeps are deep into the copium if they think D4 is a "better" arpg than POE.

    Oh and stash tabs are shared and not per character in POE.

    Lots of good looking gear in POE without needing to fork over hundreds on cosmetics...I mean wtf  would you?  

    There's too much going on in the screen to even see your cosmetics most of the time.....also the bling bling in D4 is one of the major reason you can't even zoom out like most arpg's in D4 so again.....feels like lots of copium.


    I mean I will prob do a play through of POE 2 then move on and not need to fork over a penny, and if D4 ever goes on a good sale like 50% off maybe I will buy it to go through it.

    If not oh well I had enough of it during the beta's and will just keep enjoying the flip flopping patches.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Copium is thinking Free to play really means free. Where do you guys think the money to develop POE2 came from if not from your wallets? Free, yeah LMAO.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    I'm pretty disappointed that the closed beta is so far out.  The only good thing I see coming from that is providing a good window for Last Epoch to release in.   
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Where did you get the idea that the stash tabs are per character. It's usable across all the characters on the account
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  • DhampirDhampir Member UncommonPosts: 188
    looks better than D4 already.
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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,489
    Oh i'll absolutely be playing this next year, assuming it launches next year and not delayed. :)
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  • hupahupa Member UncommonPosts: 177

    kitarad said:

    Where did you get the idea that the stash tabs are per character. It's usable across all the characters on the account



    Logic and facts go out the window when you want to bash a game.
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  • KalafaxKalafax Member UncommonPosts: 601
    Really enjoying D4 right now, but definitely look forward to giving POE2 a try when it comes out, always enjoyed the idea of POE and I know its definitely a better ARPG for the hardcore crowd, but it was just way way too much for my casual dad self and I just bounced off it the many times I tried it. Hopefully POE2 is a bit more accessable to the casual gamers and it pops off, we always need good new games in the genre.
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  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,419
    edited July 2023
    hupa said:

    kitarad said:

    Where did you get the idea that the stash tabs are per character. It's usable across all the characters on the account



    Logic and facts go out the window when you want to bash a game.

    Sorry, I got it wrong about the per character thing. It's pretty sad that you people would latch onto one mistake to handwave and dismiss the rest of the truth. But that's what rabid fanboys do.

    But I'm not wrong that you could easily spend more on Stash tabs alone as D4 or any other ARPG box fee costs. There is the stash tab page for the game: https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/category/stash-tabs

    Not only do they make you buy a stash tab per item type, they also charge extra, beyond the the expensive per tab fee, just to rename and color them to help organize this mess.

    Here's some logic and facts for you.

    The premium Battle Pass in Path of Exile is $30, half again as much as the pass in D4 and $30 more than the scoreboard in WH40K Inquisitor, which is completely free.

    Don't forget those $5 loot crates.

    Even discounted Quad Stash tabs are just over $10 each, but you have to buy more than $10 worth of game cash to buy them. Typical hostile dark pattern cash shop practice.

    Each piece of cosmetic armor [link to cash shop] ranges from $5 - $30+ depending, and each variation is  purchased individually. A single piece can cost over $80 if all variations are purchased. Unless there was a recent change, all of that can only be used on a single character at a time. 

    So, your $100+ dollar outfit (more than any other box fee ARPG alone) can only be used on a single character at a time. You can buy stash tabs, for even more money, to share with other characters though.

    Now it's hard to figure out what anything costs because it's all behind a gold conversion that pushes you to buy more gold than what the item costs.

    No one has to be a hater to see a mediocre AA game that uses an aggressive cash shop and has a lot of hidden costs. But one would have to be a blind fanboy to defend something like this.

    Last Epoch, WH40K Inquisitor, Diablo series, Wolcen, Victor Vran, Torchlight 2... none of them charge for stash tabs, let alone $10+ per. None of them charge hundreds of dollars per cosmetic outfit, especially that can only be applied to a single character at a time. Those are all better games than Path of Exile in my opinion.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited July 2023
    Iselin said:
    Copium is thinking Free to play really means free. Where do you guys think the money to develop POE2 came from if not from your wallets? Free, yeah LMAO.

    I spent a whole $20 cdn on the game which is only around 10 or 15 usd or so yeah they built a whole game with that!

    F2p or b2p with a cash shop there gonna be fools easily parted with their money either way...the real stupid though comes in when spouting "party" lines just cause.

    D4 has some major issues right now, it was rushed and needs at least one more year of work to be in a "real" release ready state especially at the price point it is and considering they also want you to fork over for subs...err I mean seasons so frequently.  

    D4 as it stand is far from a AAA game mechanically.....lol  POE2 wont cost me a single penny to try and see if it is worth putting in 10 or 20 bucks into it not to mention POE 1 mechanically is a far better game than current state D4. Wont know what POE2 is like till it's out.

    I am not the type to bend over and blindly take it up the arse while defending a company be it POE or Diablo, to each their own I guess!

    Right now your nonsense reminds of rabid nvidia vs amd clowns.



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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Asm0deus said:
    Iselin said:
    Copium is thinking Free to play really means free. Where do you guys think the money to develop POE2 came from if not from your wallets? Free, yeah LMAO.

    I spent a whole $20 cdn on the game which is only around 10 or 15 usd or so yeah they built a whole game with that!


    That's what every fan of F2P games says about their own spending - there's always someone else doing it but not them. :)

    The fact is that F2P games are very profitable - some even more profitable than B2P games.

    Love or hate games based on how they play as games but bringing up the up-front cost of B2P games as a negative when you want to promote a F2P game inevitably makes the poster doing that sound clueless about the profitability of F2P games.


    Asm0deus
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited July 2023
    Iselin said:
    ....snip...


    ....snip....

    The fact is that F2P games are very profitable - some even more profitable than B2P games.

    Love or hate games based on how they play as games but bringing up the up-front cost of B2P games as a negative when you want to promote a F2P game inevitably makes the poster doing that sound clueless about the profitability of F2P games.


    There some hypocrisy in this post by far.

    The age of welp b2p vs f2p is over, there too many idiots willing to fork over large amounts of cash in f2p and also in mobile crap...aaaannnddd also in the b2p cash shop model!

    ...that said b2p is no longer that innocent where you just spend a box price as they invariable have cash shops too now...just like D4.

    Pretending games like D4 that are live service games that want a HIGH box price and have a cash shop and have "seasons", all the evils you just claimed are f2p vices, and claiming they dont nickle and dime you is disingenuous.

    Further you are just fanboying on Diablo as a franchise at this point and fanboying for some political gamer bent  and shoving everyone in here in either a "for or against, black or white" false narrative.

    D4 even not looking at the monetization is not in a very good place like I have said already several times and claiming otherwise is pure BS, it is very much following a New World road as of now while weaving far too much left and right like some drunken sailor fresh at port after a year at sea.

    it's funny I just watched a youtube video about D4 where some newishly streamer talks about this very thing... about how it has become increasingly difficult to have a decent conversation about games without some rabid fanboys getting bent out of shape and wanting to chuck you under a bus because you either like something about a certain game or disliked something about it as you kind of lose either way cause there invariable always two groups acting like hooligans and forgetting we are suppose to be playing these game to have fun instead of starting some kind of political party....

    One of the reason my post count is not so high in this forum is due to exactly the above happening in almost any discussions that goes on for any decent length of time here, the little clicks turn it into some other uninteresting circle jerk.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Asm0deus said:

    Pretending games like D4 that are live service games that want a HIGH box price and have a cash shop and have "seasons", all the evils you just claimed are f2p vices, and claiming they dont nickle and dime you is disingenuous.


    Show me where I said that Mr. "I only spent $20 CDN on PoE"
    Asm0deus
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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 2,209
    Whenever theres POE news the people who couldnt figure out the game come to complain or say founders packs exist.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited July 2023
    Iselin said:
    Asm0deus said:

    Pretending games like D4 that are live service games that want a HIGH box price and have a cash shop and have "seasons", all the evils you just claimed are f2p vices, and claiming they dont nickle and dime you is disingenuous.


    Show me where I said that Mr. "I only spent $20 CDN on PoE"

    Not necessary anyone with two braincells can read the implications in your constant bashing.

    Just as you are implying I am lying when I claim I only spent like 20cdn on POE.

    You may have changed your avatar but I still smell the BS emanating.




    Iselin

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Asm0deus said:
    Iselin said:
    Asm0deus said:

    Pretending games like D4 that are live service games that want a HIGH box price and have a cash shop and have "seasons", all the evils you just claimed are f2p vices, and claiming they dont nickle and dime you is disingenuous.


    Show me where I said that Mr. "I only spent $20 CDN on PoE"

    Not necessary anyone with two braincells can read the implications in your constant bashing.

    Just as you are implying I am lying when I claim I only spent like 20cdn on POE.

    You may have changed your avatar but I still smell the BS emanating.




    I'm not implying you're lying, I'm flat-out calling out your BS.

    I'm also not dissing PoE or PoE2. That's all in your mind. I am calling out the F2P is free horseshit you and the D4 troll are going on about.
    Asm0deus
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    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

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