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System · August 2023

Origin PC Neuron Review: DIY Power Without The DIY Hassle | MMORPG.com

Origin PC is one of the biggest brands behind pre-built gaming PCs, and we've taken its brand new Neuron for a spin. Starting at $1,872, it offers all the power of a DIY PC without the need to build it yourself. Find out if it's the gaming PC for you in this review!

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Slapshot1188 · August 2023

Man for $5500 it better drive me to work.

OG_Solareus · August 2023

$5500 I can build 3 pcs that perform the same.

Quizzical · August 2023

OG_Solareus said:

$5500 I can build 3 pcs that perform the same.

No you can't. You could build three very nice gaming PCs, but you can't get RTX 4090 performance out of other, cheaper GPUs.

Angrakhan · August 2023

Yeah I gave up on the DYI PC build thing years ago. Way too much hassle to assemble and then troubleshoot issues. Last build I did myself I researched every part and everything was either the best or the best minus one. Really solid rig for it's day. Got everything assembled and it wouldn't POST. Hours of troubleshooting. Finally broke down and took it to a PC repair shop. Issue was that even though I got a motherboard that was compatible with my CPU, it needed a BIOS update in order to run that CPU. No way you could troubleshoot that unless you've just got spare CPUs laying around that happen to fit that socket which I didn't. $200 repair bill later I had a functional rig. Well, if you go do your math on a pre build vs DIY you will be hard pressed to save $200. They make their money on volume so the individual unit savings is pretty low. Add to that you get a warranty so it it goes tits up on you, you just send it back and let them deal with it. I know some of you guys like wrenching on your PCs like car guys like working on their cars, but I'm just not that guy anymore.

That being said there's no way I'm spending $5500 on a PC that will just be yesterday's news in 18 months or less. Soon as the RTX5 series launches that thing is officially old. Sure you can probably upgrade assuming they don't change the bus to require a new motherboard or the power to require a new power supply, but now you've got a $7000 rig. Staying at the pointy end of PC gaming has gotten too rich for my blood and I make a really solid living.

yphanh2002 · August 2023

I haven't did all the math but that pc probably around 2k or so overprice (aka all the parts in neighborhood off 3k-3.5k ) . Even if you include all the labor + windows license and what not. It's still way overprice. You find many places that have pre-built for much cheaper.

To be fair to Origin, they include life time support so that account for something but still... My point being even if you go to pre-built round, there are more "affordable" option out there.

Scot · August 2023

I am not going to say how much my new PC cost ((I try not to think about it

)) but I did not bat an eyelid at the price of this one. Water cooling (flexible) is a must have for me now though, the one draw back is that if you have any issues it will probably mean it has to be returned to base. They will not empty and remove the water cooling in your home. And don't get me started about pallet delivery!

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wyrren · August 2023

I bought origin in the past and it was an awful experience. The machine stopped powering on after a month. After lengthy phone troubleshooting, I had to send the thing back. It was in their shop for 2 months and came back with the same problem.

While the phone support seemed helpful, their QA is absolute garbage. Ended up returning the thing.

Scot · August 2023

wyrren said:

I bought origin in the past and it was an awful experience. The machine stopped powering on after a month. After lengthy phone troubleshooting, I had to send the thing back. It was in their shop for 2 months and came back with the same problem.

While the phone support seemed helpful, their QA is absolute garbage. Ended up returning the thing.

I have a friend who had a bad experience from a PC company that has a good reputation in the UK last year, it made me think "should I use them now"? But I would, I still know many who are happy with them, it seemed an aberration. If it had happened to me though I would not buy from them again, I always vote with my feet.

Sandmanjw · August 2023

Let's face it. People that go this route have more money than time. It benefit's them to go this route rather than the be DYI people.

They will most likely just buy another unit in a year or 2 at most, so tweaking the system to get a bit more performance in totally unnecessary. The new system they get will run out of the box, and they have no issues (mostly) during the life of the system that they will use it.

For the type of people that use these type places, these systems pretty much hit their needs spot on. They work great out of the box, they do not need to upgrade anything for the life they will most likely use the system, and they spend their time doing what they like, not researching, repairing, upgrading, and building their own systems.

The lower end of the market are for those that just are afraid of the thought of building their own stuff. Company fills the niche and seem to do an OK job. Nothing to brag about, but they are not outright being rapacious in the prices they are charging.

Unfortunately, I have more time than money

so these places are not for me. Still, this is a nice looking system, I have definitely seen far worse. (Looking at you dell/Alienware) places that use weird parts so you can not work on them or upgrade easily, and charge premiums.

Still, I think a 9 is too high.

OG_Solareus · August 2023

Quizzical said:

OG_Solareus said:

$5500 I can build 3 pcs that perform the same.

No you can't. You could build three very nice gaming PCs, but you can't get RTX 4090 performance out of other, cheaper GPUs.

satire friend , I should've labeled it..

OG_Solareus · August 2023

would also say, Gamers Nexus said the 4090 is a waste for gaming...

RemyVorender · August 2023

The 4090 is such overkill. I just can't justify that price tag. I'm sure there's someone out there with 5K to waste and not care about it though.

Splattr · August 2023

yphanh2002 said:

I haven't did all the math but that pc probably around 2k or so overprice (aka all the parts in neighborhood off 3k-3.5k ) . Even if you include all the labor + windows license and what not. It's still way overprice. You find many places that have pre-built for much cheaper.

To be fair to Origin, they include life time support so that account for something but still... My point being even if you go to pre-built round, there are more "affordable" option out there.

I did the math using PCPartPicker. The build list is included in the article:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrdQVW

Origin $5447 vs. DIY sourced from multiple outlets $4863. So $584 between the two prices. Origin currently has the system for $200 off as well. Origin has free shipping, and the above price includes the optional Armor Crate ($116), so you could effectively get this configuration for $5131.

You could get the DIY cheaper if you substituted a more readily available 4090 (cheapest I found is $1699). You could also buy a windows key from a 3rd party or just use it for free if you don't register it, but I'm sticking with the Microsoft price since not everyone is willing to go that route. Finally, you could find some components cheaper than PCPartPicker lists if you have a retail outlet near you.

You can find lower priced prebuilts. I checked a few pre-configured vendors (Alienware, MSI, etc) but none of them had a full component list so it's hard to compare them apples to apples to which provides better value.

I also checked a few custom builders. Although the component lists aren't exactly the same, they are very similar, and the prices range from a little below to much higher.

Falcon Northwest: $6204
Digital Storm: $5288
CLX Gaming: $5719
Xidax: $5263

I personally would never buy a prebuilt even if they were a little cheaper than a DIY build. I enjoy putting my own rig together, even with all of the issues that can come up. But I do understand that the DIY life isn't for everyone and spending a little (or a lot) more for a prebuilt can be worth it to the right consumer.

Splattr · August 2023

DarkZorvanReturns said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Bd8KX

After building in parts picker, throw in $200 for a case since the case is their own and doesn't show up, and they're charging you $800 to assemble the thing together. And their price isn't including shipping +taxes.

Even with shipping and tax, cheaper by buying as much from one place as possible, getting your own OS ( Windows 11 is still free people ) you still come out ahead building it yourself and get the bonus of not having to wipe all the crap software they'll also install. I'll also point out there are cheaper options all around in regards to their choice of componets. MSI instead of ASUS, etc.

Not to mention, if you can't build a PC and absolutely need a pre-built, then chaces are high you don't know the first thing about overclocking and setting dram timings, so high end motherboards are quite factually useless to you.

The only thing making this thing pricey outside of brand differences is literally a $2200.00 GPU that I guarantee 99.9% of the readers here don't want or need badly enough to pay what amounts to scalper prices masquerading as retail.

$200 for the case? The fans alone cost more than that. By the way, the case is a Corsair 5000D Airflow with Origin branding. A more comprehensive part list is included in the article.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrdQVW

I agree that it is cheaper to build your own PC, but that doesn't include tech support and easier warranty service (in theory. I didn't get a chance to test their tech support or warranty).

I also agree that the components are enthusiast grade and require a lot of know how to get the most out of them. I even put that in the article and mentioned that Origin should offer tuning as an option.

I don't agree with you about the GPU, though. I am pretty sure 99.9% of the readers here would love to have a 4090 in their rig. But yeah, the price is prohibitive.

Quizzical · August 2023

Splattr said:

yphanh2002 said:

I haven't did all the math but that pc probably around 2k or so overprice (aka all the parts in neighborhood off 3k-3.5k ) . Even if you include all the labor + windows license and what not. It's still way overprice. You find many places that have pre-built for much cheaper.

To be fair to Origin, they include life time support so that account for something but still... My point being even if you go to pre-built round, there are more "affordable" option out there.

I did the math using PCPartPicker. The build list is included in the article:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrdQVW

Origin $5447 vs. DIY sourced from multiple outlets $4863. So $584 between the two prices. Origin currently has the system for $200 off as well. Origin has free shipping, and the above price includes the optional Armor Crate ($116), so you could effectively get this configuration for $5131.

You could get the DIY cheaper if you substituted a more readily available 4090 (cheapest I found is $1699). You could also buy a windows key from a 3rd party or just use it for free if you don't register it, but I'm sticking with the Microsoft price since not everyone is willing to go that route. Finally, you could find some components cheaper than PCPartPicker lists if you have a retail outlet near you.

You can find lower priced prebuilts. I checked a few pre-configured vendors (Alienware, MSI, etc) but none of them had a full component list so it's hard to compare them apples to apples to which provides better value.

I also checked a few custom builders. Although the component lists aren't exactly the same, they are very similar, and the prices range from a little below to much higher.

Falcon Northwest: $6204
Digital Storm: $5288
CLX Gaming: $5719
Xidax: $5263

I personally would never buy a prebuilt even if they were a little cheaper than a DIY build. I enjoy putting my own rig together, even with all of the issues that can come up. But I do understand that the DIY life isn't for everyone and spending a little (or a lot) more for a prebuilt can be worth it to the right consumer.

A lot depends on how willing you are to go with acceptable substitutes. You can get a lot of different RTX 4090s for $1700 or less, but your list includes paying $2140 to get one particular SKU that is likely off the market by now. You do things like that with a lot of other parts, too. You could probably get something that is just as good in everything from benchmarks to user experience for significantly under $4000 if you're willing to swap out some equivalent substitute parts.

Quizzical · August 2023

Splattr said:

I don't agree with you about the GPU, though. I am pretty sure 99.9% of the readers here would love to have a 4090 in their rig. But yeah, the price is prohibitive.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a 450 W GPU.

Splattr · August 2023

Quizzical said:

Splattr said:

yphanh2002 said:

I haven't did all the math but that pc probably around 2k or so overprice (aka all the parts in neighborhood off 3k-3.5k ) . Even if you include all the labor + windows license and what not. It's still way overprice. You find many places that have pre-built for much cheaper.

To be fair to Origin, they include life time support so that account for something but still... My point being even if you go to pre-built round, there are more "affordable" option out there.

I did the math using PCPartPicker. The build list is included in the article:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrdQVW

Origin $5447 vs. DIY sourced from multiple outlets $4863. So $584 between the two prices. Origin currently has the system for $200 off as well. Origin has free shipping, and the above price includes the optional Armor Crate ($116), so you could effectively get this configuration for $5131.

You could get the DIY cheaper if you substituted a more readily available 4090 (cheapest I found is $1699). You could also buy a windows key from a 3rd party or just use it for free if you don't register it, but I'm sticking with the Microsoft price since not everyone is willing to go that route. Finally, you could find some components cheaper than PCPartPicker lists if you have a retail outlet near you.

You can find lower priced prebuilts. I checked a few pre-configured vendors (Alienware, MSI, etc) but none of them had a full component list so it's hard to compare them apples to apples to which provides better value.

I also checked a few custom builders. Although the component lists aren't exactly the same, they are very similar, and the prices range from a little below to much higher.

Falcon Northwest: $6204

Digital Storm: $5288

CLX Gaming: $5719

Xidax: $5263

I personally would never buy a prebuilt even if they were a little cheaper than a DIY build. I enjoy putting my own rig together, even with all of the issues that can come up. But I do understand that the DIY life isn't for everyone and spending a little (or a lot) more for a prebuilt can be worth it to the right consumer.

A lot depends on how willing you are to go with acceptable substitutes. You can get a lot of different RTX 4090s for $1700 or less, but your list includes paying $2140 to get one particular SKU that is likely off the market by now. You do things like that with a lot of other parts, too. You could probably get something that is just as good in everything from benchmarks to user experience for significantly under $4000 if you're willing to swap out some equivalent substitute parts.

Yep. I even said as much about swapping out the video card for a cheaper 4090. You also don't have to pay $250 for the same fans, $150 for the case. The grab some non-rgb ram, and a "slower" NVMe drive. And let's not forget that Origin buys in bulk so they aren't paying retail prices.

But what we're talking about here is a specific configuration, so when comparing prebuilt to diy pricing for this particular build, we should keep the component lists the same wherever possible. Even so, the company must make a profit, and the real question is whether that extra expense is worth it to the buyer. For many, the ease of use, no skills required approach is worth the extra money.

Splattr · August 2023

Quizzical said:

Splattr said:

I don't agree with you about the GPU, though. I am pretty sure 99.9% of the readers here would love to have a 4090 in their rig. But yeah, the price is prohibitive.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a 450 W GPU.

Welcome to the .1% club. lol

Slapshot1188 · August 2023

Splattr said:

Quizzical said:

Splattr said:

I don't agree with you about the GPU, though. I am pretty sure 99.9% of the readers here would love to have a 4090 in their rig. But yeah, the price is prohibitive.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a 450 W GPU.

Welcome to the .1% club. lol

I live in FL. My Electric Bill was $600 last month. I don't want a 450 W GPU either

Makes my AC run.

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OG_Solareus · August 2023

I would never want a 4090 , ever. If one came to me I'd sell it and build a 1080p gaming rig.

Kyleran · August 2023

Slapshot1188 said:

Splattr said:

Quizzical said:

Splattr said:

I don't agree with you about the GPU, though. I am pretty sure 99.9% of the readers here would love to have a 4090 in their rig. But yeah, the price is prohibitive.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a 450 W GPU.

Welcome to the .1% club. lol

I live in FL. My Electric Bill was $600 last month. I don't want a 450 W GPU either Makes my AC run.

Hmm, I was a bit cross about my TECO bill crossing the $400 mark for the first time in the 30 plus years I've lived in my house, but happy to have you "win" that contest.

Scot · August 2023

Kyleran said:

Slapshot1188 said:

Splattr said:

Quizzical said:

Splattr said:

I don't agree with you about the GPU, though. I am pretty sure 99.9% of the readers here would love to have a 4090 in their rig. But yeah, the price is prohibitive.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a 450 W GPU.

Welcome to the .1% club. lol

I live in FL. My Electric Bill was $600 last month. I don't want a 450 W GPU either Makes my AC run.

Hmm, I was a bit cross about my TECO bill crossing the $400 mark for the first time in the 30 plus years I've lived in my house, but happy to have you "win" that contest.

You are sounding like my dad, he always goes on about the shopping bill. The other week he did an investigation because something was on the bill for £11 and he could not work out what it was.

Meanwhile I think I am getting more like him every day. We are already getting too much like our elders and they have twenty to thirty years on us!

kitarad · August 2023

I have an electric heater in my home for water in the showers and sinks. We stopped using it. Saved like 100 euros a month. Now I boil water on the stove and have gone back to how I used to bathe when I was young in my small village. Bucket showers. Bring a bucket of hot water in a zinc pail to retain as much heat as possible then slowly mix it with cold water and use a dipper to bathe.

It is amazing what we waste electricity on. I don't use any overhead lamps at night unless necessary have all those motion lights everywhere. Europe was hit badly with the natural gas prices going up and our electricity bills and natural gas bills have soared.

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