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Diablo 4 Vessel of Hatred Expansion Announced, Coming 'Late 2024', Diablo is Coming to Tabletop Gami
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Diablo 4 Vessel of Hatred Expansion Announced, Coming 'Late 2024', Diablo is Coming to Tabletop Gaming | MMORPG.com
Diablo 4's first major expansion has been announced. Vessel of Hatred was announced at BlizzCon today with a brief teaser video and the title, with more info to come tomorrow.
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What difference does the Season Pass make? Seeing as the game itself bores you wouldn't be buying them anyway.
At least there was some improvement from the first to second season so there is potential for it to continue to get better. I haven't seen on details on the expansion yet so I'm curious as to what those will be.
The real problems with itemization are still there, so nothing much has changed in that regard. Which is the biggest gripe most people have with this game.
The vampire stuff is cool, but these vampire powers don't really do much and require a great amount of grinding and RNG luck to get each power to a high enough level to notice any impact.
They are way to conservative with this, unlike with Diablo 3 seasons, where they actually took some risks and bold moves that were actually fun and why people came back for each new season.
Who cares if people figure out builds and mechanics that are ridiculously overpowered and do crazy stuff. If people have a lot of fun, that is all that matters and what ARGP's were about.
That is the core problem with Blizzard today. People are clearly not allowed to have fun anymore, because they have mostly been concerned with nerfing everything into the ground than actually fixing the real problems this game has.
For example, after more than 4 months, Druid pet builds for example are still broken and pretty much useless. It's the only real build I really like with the Druid, so I have no desire coming back until Blizzard acknowledges this and fixes this.
Almost everyone who play Druid in high levels, still runs the same Bear form build. It's just boring.
It's the same with Barbarian, where most of the actual fun builds are just severely underpowered and not fun in high levels.
The vast majority still runs the same Wirlwind build. Boring!
And if you ask me, none of them should reappear.
With that said, why should I(or anyone tbh) care about D4 when there are much better aRPGs out there? Even the previous Diablos. D1 has DevX and Belz, D2 had Median, PD2 and D2R(with its own suite of mods like ReModded) and D3 is also a much better game.
D4 = ??? .
Translation :
I have bad tastes and I am also a hater.. and I believe a game from 1996 with so many limitation, is better than Diablo 4 ( facepalm ).
You keep say D1, D2, D3 better, etc, yet .. this games are barely played this days, while D4 is literally booming, especially thanks to S2 and it can only get better from now on .. if they keep listening to players.
Do you want me to refresh your memory, how D3 was in his first years until RoS? Yes, no? Ok ..
Also, Diablo its a name, is a franchise .. a brand. It doesn't need to be in the game.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
With that said, yes, I know everything about how D2, D3 etc looked like in their first year, but that was then. This is now. And I have those games at their peak quality right now. D4 otoh ... might become good, but I simply do not care that much about it. Because I have tons of other games to play and, tbh, popularity means NOTHING to me. It's all about how I feel about the game. And how do I feel like?
Besides not feeling like wasting a lot of money on it, it is ... alright. The biggest issues are itemization(I have a distinct feeling it's going in the direction of D3 as opposed to D2 where nearly everything that dripped mattered) and how characters are designed(them all relying too much on builders if you don't have a very specific gear isn't a good sign). And it's kinda boring(tbh). Oh and I can't support Always Online, sorry. Those can be fixed, even if it's a hackjob like D3.
I didn't complain about the absence of Diablo. In fact, I don't think D3 needed to have so many member-berries either. And that it would have been 100%(at least) better if Az and Bel got more time to shine.
Anything else?
Yes: Congratulations! They named an entire expansion after you. Pretty impressive.
But we live in a world with 23 years of nostalgia blindness to Diablo 2, and it doesn't deserve it. It's aged like milk in the desert.
I actually think the Expansion will struggle. This team has obviously shown itself incompetent as the majority of things that are good are because players complained. They even took a few steps backwards and complains are what fixed that (teleporting being longer for example).
If they release late 2024 it might be right along side POE 2 who shares a part of the player base. Yes, you can play both but POE2 will be the new shiny thing everyone will want to play on release.
There is no "should" when it comes to what people care about. It is what it is and nobody is in a position to gainsay it.
I think you are the one with bad tastes and are a hater. Also childish and immature.
This is categorically false.
Let's look at the claim that they "don't really do much".
Let's combine Undying https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/vampiric-power/undying-15 with building your class around attack speed. My rogue very quickly gets to where he's attacking 5-6 times per second and he's only level 61 right now. At 3% health per attack I rarely touch the potion button. I have so much self-heal it's almost as if it's some health leech build from Last Epoch. Doesn't do much you say?
Or hey let's forget Undying literally making you undying, what about combining Flowing Veins https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/vampiric-power/flowing-veins-20 with Accursed Touch https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/vampiric-power/accursed-touch-16 . Now you have a 44% chance to apply a curse on enemies and thanks to flowing veins you now do 60% increased damage to them. Doesn't do much you say?
Oh and let's address the hyperbole about "great amount of grinding and RNG". I'm a very casual player. I'm only level 61 on my first character in Season 2. Even with the increased leveling speed I may not make 100 before the season ends. I already have 4 of my 5 vampiric powers to level 3 and the last one is level 2. Max level is 3 for those who don't know. I'm not even to World Tier 4 yet, and I've almost capped my powers. Is that the "great amount of grinding and RNG" you're referring to?
Maybe quit spewing lies just to make a non-existent point about a game you only hate because you have a personal vendetta against Blizzard.
It isn't a bad game, but with all other CHOICES, I simply do not need it(unless they do something dramatic and, even then, Always Online). In an environ like D2 had, the story would have been different. But let's focus on NOW.
Exactly.