Guild Wars 3 Confirmed To Be In Development, Though It Seems It's Still In Its Early Stages | MMORPG

System · March 28

Guild Wars 3 Confirmed To Be In Development, Though It Seems It's Still In Its Early Stages | MMORPG.com

Guild Wars 3 came up in a recent shareholders meeting at NCSoft, with the company effectively announcing it's in development.

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ShinyFlygon · March 28

The market isn't "unstable." It's just that gamers are less and less tolerant of microtransactions, and NCSoft remains stubbornly married to a business model that relies on them for most of its revenue.

Charge a fair price for a solid product instead of trying to nickel-and-dime your way to Easy Street, and you might just find that a loyal, stable player base is happy to support you.

Aeander · March 28

Here's what I want:

A new engine (they're doing UE5)

The active skill system of GW1 with the passive traits of GW2

The class system of GW1

The PvP of GW1 with the WvW of GW2

The PvE of GW2 with the enemy design of GW1.

The mount system of GW2

The wardrobe of GW2 with the weapon dyes of GW1.

There. Perfect game. 100 out of 10.

DigDuggy · March 28

It's about the right time. The genre has moved significantly since 2 came out. An updated, refreshed experience will be a good thing.

HJ-Navarre · March 28

Exciting news! Less currencies and tokens this time around, please.

madazz · March 28

Don't add a cash shop. DONT ADD A CASH SHOP!!!!!! DONT ADD A FRICKIN CASH SHOP!!!!!!!

sschrupp · March 28

ShinyFlygon said:

The market isn't "unstable." It's just that gamers are less and less tolerant of microtransactions, and NCSoft remains stubbornly married to a business model that relies on them for most of its revenue.

Charge a fair price for a solid product instead of trying to nickel-and-dime your way to Easy Street, and you might just find that a loyal, stable player base is happy to support you.

How many years ago did we see the first cash shops? Seem to recall lots of people declaring they'll never play games with cash shops or F2P stuff. Years later, incredibly rich companies raking in the moolah... don't think it's going away any time soon.

Raagnarz · March 29

Aeander said:

Here's what I want:

A new engine (they're doing UE5)

The active skill system of GW1 with the passive traits of GW2

The class system of GW1

The PvP of GW1 with the WvW of GW2

The PvE of GW2 with the enemy design of GW1.

The mount system of GW2

The wardrobe of GW2 with the weapon dyes of GW1.

There. Perfect game. 100 out of 10.

Can you do me a favor go get hired by them as a designer. Everything you listed sounds like the perfect blended version of both games. I loved so much about GW2, but missed things from GW1. And the open world itself in GW2 was one of the most gorgeous and detailed I've been in MMORPG wise and rivaled some single player games.

Hyperpsycrow · March 29

Aaah gw 3...APRIL FOOL

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Scot · March 29

Aeander said:

Here's what I want:

A new engine (they're doing UE5)

The active skill system of GW1 with the passive traits of GW2

The class system of GW1

The PvP of GW1 with the WvW of GW2

The PvE of GW2 with the enemy design of GW1.

The mount system of GW2

The wardrobe of GW2 with the weapon dyes of GW1.

There. Perfect game. 100 out of 10.

Perhaps more importantly how many of those elements are you prepared to lose and still play GW3? Because that's the dilemma for us in MMOs today, as an older player you are never going to get everything you want.

ShinyFlygon · March 29

sschrupp said:

ShinyFlygon said:

The market isn't "unstable." It's just that gamers are less and less tolerant of microtransactions, and NCSoft remains stubbornly married to a business model that relies on them for most of its revenue.

Charge a fair price for a solid product instead of trying to nickel-and-dime your way to Easy Street, and you might just find that a loyal, stable player base is happy to support you.

How many years ago did we see the first cash shops? Seem to recall lots of people declaring they'll never play games with cash shops or F2P stuff. Years later, incredibly rich companies raking in the moolah... don't think it's going away any time soon.

It is already happening. Inkbound is about to launch with minimal cosmetic DLC instead of a ton of microtransactions as originally planned. Why? Massive negative feedback from their community. CAPCOM increased the number of transmog tomes available in-game in Dragon's Dogma 2 due to backlash over their attempt to sell that item for cash.

Every time a company tries to monetize this way, the outcry gets louder and louder. Gamers are sick and tired of it, and rightly so.

ShinyFlygon · March 29

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Xiaoki · March 29

ShinyFlygon said:

sschrupp said:

ShinyFlygon said:

The market isn't "unstable." It's just that gamers are less and less tolerant of microtransactions, and NCSoft remains stubbornly married to a business model that relies on them for most of its revenue.

Charge a fair price for a solid product instead of trying to nickel-and-dime your way to Easy Street, and you might just find that a loyal, stable player base is happy to support you.

How many years ago did we see the first cash shops? Seem to recall lots of people declaring they'll never play games with cash shops or F2P stuff. Years later, incredibly rich companies raking in the moolah... don't think it's going away any time soon.

It is already happening. Inkbound is about to launch with minimal cosmetic DLC instead of a ton of microtransactions as originally planned. Why? Massive negative feedback from their community. CAPCOM increased the number of transmog tomes available in-game in Dragon's Dogma 2 due to backlash over their attempt to sell that item for cash.

Every time a company tries to monetize this way, the outcry gets louder and louder. Gamers are sick and tired of it, and rightly so.

People will complain endlessly online about stuff but then buy what they were complaining about.

People have complained about the microtransactions in Dragons Dogma 2 but every report has said the sales have been great.

And that's why publishers don't listen to online complaining they listen to what people are buying.

Ungood · March 29

Xiaoki said:

ShinyFlygon said:

sschrupp said:

ShinyFlygon said:

The market isn't "unstable." It's just that gamers are less and less tolerant of microtransactions, and NCSoft remains stubbornly married to a business model that relies on them for most of its revenue.

Charge a fair price for a solid product instead of trying to nickel-and-dime your way to Easy Street, and you might just find that a loyal, stable player base is happy to support you.

How many years ago did we see the first cash shops? Seem to recall lots of people declaring they'll never play games with cash shops or F2P stuff. Years later, incredibly rich companies raking in the moolah... don't think it's going away any time soon.

It is already happening. Inkbound is about to launch with minimal cosmetic DLC instead of a ton of microtransactions as originally planned. Why? Massive negative feedback from their community. CAPCOM increased the number of transmog tomes available in-game in Dragon's Dogma 2 due to backlash over their attempt to sell that item for cash.

Every time a company tries to monetize this way, the outcry gets louder and louder. Gamers are sick and tired of it, and rightly so.

People will complain endlessly online about stuff but then buy what they were complaining about.

People have complained about the microtransactions in Dragons Dogma 2 but every report has said the sales have been great.

And that's why publishers don't listen to online complaining they listen to what people are buying.

So much this. They listen to what players are buying

I've always said that Voting with your wallet only counts if you are buying something.

Game (well any) company follows the money. If you are not spending money, they are not following you, end of discussion.

With that said, I do not envy Anet, or even NCsoft at this point, with the Announcement of GW3 being in the works, I mean, I am not sure what kind of damage control they might try to do, they might not do any at all, but, I'll be dead honest, it's going to be a hard sell to get players to spend money on what they suddenly now see as a dead game walking

I mean, honestly, unless GW3 ends up being some next level amazing MMO, like a totally next Gen in what MMO could become, like some kind of immersive VR full world environment with an AI control, to custom curate a unique gaming experience, or something else equally amazing, or they go in a totally different approach and make like a BattleRoyal, or FPS, it's going to be really hard to get people to start again after 12+ years invested into a game

I don't think there are many that would do that for Weapon Dyes and Henchmen, just saying

But that is my feels on things. I mean I never played GW1, but at the same time, GW1 was only 2-ish years old when they announced GW2 (GW2 was announced in 2007 - Released in 2012), so it was not like players had over a decade of time investment into the game before they knew a New Game was coming out

We shall see how this plays out

I'm already feeling that this will go badly, as I think a lot of people will not take this announcement of GW3 well, and a lot of players opting to spending their time and money somewhere else

Maybe even go outside and touch grass, who knows.

Maybe I should Buy Stock in a Sod company, just in case I'm right, LOL.

Tokken · March 30

Good news! I would love to play GW3.

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Neoyoshi · March 30

ShinyFlygon said:

The market isn't "unstable." It's just that gamers are less and less tolerant of microtransactions, and NCSoft remains stubbornly married to a business model that relies on them for most of its revenue.

Charge a fair price for a solid product instead of trying to nickel-and-dime your way to Easy Street, and you might just find that a loyal, stable player base is happy to support you.

^this. It really isn't brain surgery or rocket science; but it is really hard work and a lot of sacrifice, and often times you go without a paycheck; something i doubt NCsoft even remembers- it's probably been years, decades even since they were that tiny tiny team of devs who were barely getting by trying to make the first Lineage game.

Though in retrospect i think i have more respect for the guys who created Nexus: The Kingdom of the Winds.

Neoyoshi · March 30

Hyperpsycrow said:

Aaah gw 3...APRIL FOOL

I don't even dare to think of what a GW3 would even look like (probably not great) - the visuals of GW2 are so unique and striking that i believe a GW3 should never even be attempted, as i don't think they could recreate what they did with the art aesthetic in a more modern way.

Instead i believe they should update GW2 visual palette a bit more perhaps - good example: FFXIV 7.0 graphics engine update.

Gorwe · March 30

Let's combine GW 1 and 2. Do that and you are going to have a straight hit on your hands.

Xiaoki · March 30

Ungood said:

Xiaoki said:

ShinyFlygon said:

sschrupp said:

ShinyFlygon said:

The market isn't "unstable." It's just that gamers are less and less tolerant of microtransactions, and NCSoft remains stubbornly married to a business model that relies on them for most of its revenue.

Charge a fair price for a solid product instead of trying to nickel-and-dime your way to Easy Street, and you might just find that a loyal, stable player base is happy to support you.

How many years ago did we see the first cash shops? Seem to recall lots of people declaring they'll never play games with cash shops or F2P stuff. Years later, incredibly rich companies raking in the moolah... don't think it's going away any time soon.

It is already happening. Inkbound is about to launch with minimal cosmetic DLC instead of a ton of microtransactions as originally planned. Why? Massive negative feedback from their community. CAPCOM increased the number of transmog tomes available in-game in Dragon's Dogma 2 due to backlash over their attempt to sell that item for cash.

Every time a company tries to monetize this way, the outcry gets louder and louder. Gamers are sick and tired of it, and rightly so.

People will complain endlessly online about stuff but then buy what they were complaining about.

People have complained about the microtransactions in Dragons Dogma 2 but every report has said the sales have been great.

And that's why publishers don't listen to online complaining they listen to what people are buying.

So much this. They listen to what players are buying

I've always said that Voting with your wallet only counts if you are buying something.

Game (well any) company follows the money. If you are not spending money, they are not following you, end of discussion.

With that said, I do not envy Anet, or even NCsoft at this point, with the Announcement of GW3 being in the works, I mean, I am not sure what kind of damage control they might try to do, they might not do any at all, but, I'll be dead honest, it's going to be a hard sell to get players to spend money on what they suddenly now see as a dead game walking

I mean, honestly, unless GW3 ends up being some next level amazing MMO, like a totally next Gen in what MMO could become, like some kind of immersive VR full world environment with an AI control, to custom curate a unique gaming experience, or something else equally amazing, or they go in a totally different approach and make like a BattleRoyal, or FPS, it's going to be really hard to get people to start again after 12+ years invested into a game

I don't think there are many that would do that for Weapon Dyes and Henchmen, just saying

But that is my feels on things. I mean I never played GW1, but at the same time, GW1 was only 2-ish years old when they announced GW2 (GW2 was announced in 2007 - Released in 2012), so it was not like players had over a decade of time investment into the game before they knew a New Game was coming out

We shall see how this plays out

I'm already feeling that this will go badly, as I think a lot of people will not take this announcement of GW3 well, and a lot of players opting to spending their time and money somewhere else

Maybe even go outside and touch grass, who knows.

Maybe I should Buy Stock in a Sod company, just in case I'm right, LOL.

GW2 wasn't really a Live Game Walking these past several years. Yo-yo-ing between $15 and $20 million per quarter.

And I think that is one area they rectify with the sequel. I think GW3 will be Free to play with lots of microtransactions.

NCsoft isn't going to pay for a big budget sequel to a middling game and be expecting more middling results.

Also, I think that to justify the sequel they will need a major shift in gameplay. To differentiate GW3 from GW2 and to modernize it. Which means full real time action combat.

I look forward to this MMORPG sequel. Because MMORPG sequels are not for the current players they are for the people that left and the people that never played.

MikeJezZ · March 30

I'm glad I haven't invested more time in GW2.

A MMORPG shouldn't get a sequel imo. If wow gets a wow 2 then I'm outta here.

Same with eso.

Unless of course, all the collection you've got throughout the years gets transfered.

Scot · March 30

MikeJezZ said:

I'm glad I haven't invested more time in GW2.

A MMORPG shouldn't get a sequel imo. If wow gets a wow 2 then I'm outta here.

Same with eso.

Unless of course, all the collection you've got throughout the years gets transfered.

Jumping from one MMO game to a sequel does reset the clock, but we need solid new MMORPGs, far too many half baked and tiny-MMO's coming out.

Sovrath · March 30

MikeJezZ said:

I'm glad I haven't invested more time in GW2.

A MMORPG shouldn't get a sequel imo. If wow gets a wow 2 then I'm outta here.

Same with eso.

Unless of course, all the collection you've got throughout the years gets transfered.

But Guild Wars 2 is very different from Guild Wars "1." Also Lineage 2 was very different fro the original Lineage.

Some commonalities in both games but very different.

Heck, just as Everquest 2 was different from Everquest.

Scot · March 30

Sovrath said:

MikeJezZ said:

I'm glad I haven't invested more time in GW2.

A MMORPG shouldn't get a sequel imo. If wow gets a wow 2 then I'm outta here.

Same with eso.

Unless of course, all the collection you've got throughout the years gets transfered.

But Guild Wars 2 is very different from Guild Wars "1." Also Lineage 2 was very different fro the original Lineage.

Some commonalities in both games but very different.

Heck, just as Everquest 2 was different from Everquest.

"Heck, just as Everquest 2 was different from Everquest"

Yes, it was better.

Theocritus · March 30

I remember all the hype when they were making GW2.....then I played it....GW3 doesnt excite me in the least.

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