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digriz
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OK, well im wearing my flame retardant suit so here we go. While playing tonight for the third day running my PC crashed and switched itself off, well pissed off i wrote a bitchy ticket to get some answers. And i did, in less than a minute. And it sorted the problem and some lag i was suffering. Then i crashed again, this time because 50 or more players turned up in theed to take on the ATST invasion that Luke Skywalker started by having rebs kill all of the stormies in the town.
So, we have CSRs being helpful and content. Ok so my PCs shit and needs more RAM, and im not asking for anyone to 'come join us' but its a step in the right direction.
Btw im on Chimaera, see for yourself if you think im lying.
So, we have CSRs being helpful and content. Ok so my PCs shit and needs more RAM, and im not asking for anyone to 'come join us' but its a step in the right direction.
Btw im on Chimaera, see for yourself if you think im lying.
Comments
- Lag is bad, mobs warping, specials delayed 500-5000ms
- Specials work 50% of the time, 95% if you use them as first attack. Impossible to rely on them
- Same old UI bugs as always, wrong flytext, level up messages, random spam
- Some new skills, but they add nothing to anything, just more special effects
- Combat is still point and hold. Nothing else matters
- Pvp is worthless, since everything is equal
- You cannot [x] while [y]
From gameplay view, not a single thing has changed since NGE.
i came here looking for game improvements as title suggests
Should have known im in the $WG section - no improvments to be found
Those are why I quit, plus the fact that everyone is the same, the community sux, and i am not gonna support soe for a bad game
THE GAME ISN"T IMPROVING THEY TRYING TO BRING BACK THE OLD VERSION BUT 10 TIMES SLOWER THAN NECCESARY
why are you here begging for people to come play with you????? you should be happy and content with the people that are on the server now???????
BTW .... so whats the improvemnets??????
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
I think he was saying that the speed of the ticket was an improvement.
But in the CU I remember late on a Wensday night.. some quest was broken and I was not aware of it, I wrote a ticket and a CSR came to help in about 3 minutes. Not much improvement there.
Oh yeah, not to mention, "and only 1,000 items show up on galaxy wide vendor search."
-d
Waiting on: Pirates of the Burning Sea and Pirates of the Carribean Online
why are you here begging for people to come play with you????? you should be happy and content with the people that are on the server now???????
BTW .... so whats the improvemnets??????
Geez loueeeze, if you're not even going to bother reading, what's the point? Just do what you know and post in the Anti-SOE sticky.
-d
Waiting on: Pirates of the Burning Sea and Pirates of the Carribean Online
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why are you here begging for people to come play with you? you should be happy and content with the people that are on the server now?
BTW .... so whats the improvemnets?
Geez loueeeze, if you're not even going to bother reading, what's the point? Just do what you know and post in the Anti-SOE sticky.
-d
Damn, no kidding. Try reading the actual post content next time Sago instead of just the title, your post is just ridiclus. He didnt make a post "begging" people to come play the game, all he did was tell us that from what hes seen so far it looks like the CSR help has **improved**. Thats what he said has improved from his experience so far playing for the past few days.
Also, your ? key must be stuck, I fixed it.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
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Good call Mal. If everything is equal/balanced PvP wouldnt be worthless, it would be more of a challenge. I think Obraik has said a few times PvP is actually preety balanced now and their arent really any fotm professions, dont quote me on that though I might be wrong, not putting words in his mouth or anything.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
I think Rekrul means all toons are carbon copys of eachother....
Mal, a question: Gathering knowlege about and utilize what is put infront of you doesn't equal skill but buying kick ass hardware so I easier can hold my crosshair on the target is?
I'll tell you a secret, NGE combat system was put in to make fighting more interactive to the casual player, there was to much reading, remeber? It has absolutly NOTHING to do with "player skill".
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JUDAS!
Blah blah blah, blah blah!
Knowing a good build and playing one is also a skill.
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SWG pre cu - never forgotten.
Knowing a good build and playing one is also a skill.
No, sorry. There is no difference.
All it comes down to, is how high FPS you have (30 is ideal) and how well you can move your cursor over the target. If that is skill, fine, but it just doesn't apeal to me.
Damage dealt is same, regardless of weapons, the number of exploits is huge (3x damage macro for example, perma snares and some other less common and some just too lame to mention), which makes it just pointless to try to pvp.
Sameness that I referred to was the fact, that you shoot a gun. Kinetic, energy, 6k armor, 8k armor, spice, agility, precision, constitution, ... Worthless. Many here would be surprised at the actual numbers, but the state of combat is worse that whack-a-mole. And regardless of what people claim, FPS and latency determine the winner.
FPS (Quake, UT, CS) are equal and balanced. All clients are synced, so network effects are taken out of equation, everyone's damage is identical, terrain and reflexes make all the difference.
The terrain is a sad joke in SWG. It was never intended for that (collision detection(tm)), and hurt more than it helps. The single damage bar is also a huge deterrant, since there simply are no tactical moves. Snares are the only thing that makes a small bit of difference, but due to lag they are horribly ineffective, and often cause nasty rubber-banding issues. Other than that, you have one single attack, just 3 or 4 version of it. Each of them deals a progressively larger ammount of damage to health pool. There are just absolutely no other options.
We'll see what the CU3 brings.
Knowing a good build and playing one is also a skill.
No, sorry. There is no difference.
All it comes down to, is how high FPS you have (30 is ideal) and how well you can move your cursor over the target. If that is skill, fine, but it just doesn't apeal to me.
a bunch of good stuff
exactly.
Yes, being able to play an fps well is a skill, but like Rekrul said, not in swg. But being able to research templates and finding the best armor and weapons and food and buffs is also a skill.
It's not like you can just log into the game and walaah, you have the "knowledge of templates" fed to you through osmosis. It comes from experience and trial and error.
Imo, neither are extremely complicated (since any 12 year old can do both), but neither should be held as better than the other, just different. It's just about which one works best in swg.
For the Horde!
Knowing a good build and playing one is also a skill.
No, sorry. There is no difference.
All it comes down to, is how high FPS you have (30 is ideal) and how well you can move your cursor over the target. If that is skill, fine, but it just doesn't apeal to me.
Damage dealt is same, regardless of weapons, the number of exploits is huge (3x damage macro for example, perma snares and some other less common and some just too lame to mention), which makes it just pointless to try to pvp.
Sameness that I referred to was the fact, that you shoot a gun. Kinetic, energy, 6k armor, 8k armor, spice, agility, precision, constitution, ... Worthless. Many here would be surprised at the actual numbers, but the state of combat is worse that whack-a-mole. And regardless of what people claim, FPS and latency determine the winner.
FPS (Quake, UT, CS) are equal and balanced. All clients are synced, so network effects are taken out of equation, everyone's damage is identical, terrain and reflexes make all the difference.
The terrain is a sad joke in SWG. It was never intended for that (collision detection(tm)), and hurt more than it helps. The single damage bar is also a huge deterrant, since there simply are no tactical moves. Snares are the only thing that makes a small bit of difference, but due to lag they are horribly ineffective, and often cause nasty rubber-banding issues. Other than that, you have one single attack, just 3 or 4 version of it. Each of them deals a progressively larger ammount of damage to health pool. There are just absolutely no other options.
We'll see what the CU3 brings.
Um, I'm not totally convinced you know what you're talking about.
I don't notice that my ability to kill someone changes with either low or high FPS. I've done battles with 5fps (self created from recording with FRAPS) and I've done them with 25fps, both times I managed to kill people and survive.
3x damage? Perma-snares? Since when? I'm PvPing almost daily and I haven't came across anyone using them if they even exist. Jedi snare lasts I think around 50secs, which could be considered perma-snared I guess
Armour definetly does make a difference. If you have energy layered armour but are attacked with a kinetic weapon you WILL go down faster. The maths prooves it too. Using the Excel resist calculator from the Munitions forum, if you have capped unlayered recon (5k kinetic) and capped assault (7k kinetic) and you are then attacked by someone doing 1450 damage per shot you'll take 689 damage with the assault and 834 damage with the recon. Assuming you have the standard 12k health and don't heal or use any other special, with the Assault it'll take 18 shots to kill you, with the recon it'll take 15. Of course in most battles you'll be healing, using DoT's and other specials that do damage.
You cannot shoot through the terrain, so how is it doing it wrongly? Plenty of tactical moves available and if you don't use them, you're probably going to die pretty quick. These differ from profession to profession though of course. Take Medic for example. I have a buff available to me that increases my health a tad which I make sure to use, plus a heal over time which can negate 360 damage per tick. If I don't use those, I put myself at a disadvantage in combat. I also have an AOE attack which can be pretty nasty if you're standing in it, so I need to find a way to make my target stand in it. Running around a corner and setting it off can be effective with this as they will more then often follow. It has to be done at the right time though as the AOE doesn't go off the instant you lay it down, it has a delay so if you do it too late the target would have already passed over the spot by the time it goes off. I also have a ranged DoT that is handy with the Jedi, but you have to make sure you do that as your first attack before they put up their saber block. All the time while you're using these specials you have to watch your action and cool-down timers to make sure there is enough for a heal when the timer on the heals are up. That's just SOME of the tactics I use as a Medic to give myself an edge, I could go on with more
But don't worry, the next round of CSR downsizing will likely be soon, we'll be back to Eliza bots and canned response bots sooner than you can say "Combat Downgrade 4"
why are you here begging for people to come play with you????? you should be happy and content with the people that are on the server now???????
BTW .... so whats the improvemnets??????
Geez loueeeze, if you're not even going to bother reading, what's the point? Just do what you know and post in the Anti-SOE sticky.
-d
I READ the whole post and to me it looks like he is asking for people to come play with him.
What I said wasn't anti $OE or antiNGE ... if you bothered to read my post. I asked 3 questions. Now get over it.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
why are you here begging for people to come play with you? you should be happy and content with the people that are on the server now?
BTW .... so whats the improvemnets?
Geez loueeeze, if you're not even going to bother reading, what's the point? Just do what you know and post in the Anti-SOE sticky.
-d
Damn, no kidding. Try reading the actual post content next time Sago instead of just the title, your post is just ridiclus. He didnt make a post "begging" people to come play the game, all he did was tell us that from what hes seen so far it looks like the CSR help has **improved**. Thats what he said has improved from his experience so far playing for the past few days.
Also, your ? key must be stuck, I fixed it.
I see the post as MORE come play with me than a lowly CSRs time response has gotten better. Maybe the CSRs time response has improved because there are fewer people playing .... I was expecting some REAL bonafied examples of how the game has improved .... NONE were listed.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
Well maybe you should try reading it more S L O W L Y. Heaven forbid someone like something about the game and want to share it which is what he was doing.
- Scaris
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Well maybe you should try reading it more S L O W L Y. Heaven forbid someone like something about the game and want to share it which is what he was doing.
Again .. the title of the post is "Improvements". Most normal people would would take "Impovements" as something ingame that has improved making the game MORE playable.
Instead, the majority of the post is referencing people to go to his server (he even TELLS you which one) and try it out. Like who in their right mind is going to resub to check out how much the CSR response time has improved?
Since there is NO other examples of how the game has "improved" .... what is one to think?
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
Said that myself mate, read the posts.
And @ Sago, after months and months of us moaning about CS i had a good experience, that i call an improvement. Secondly, content. SWG was never a game about content, but last night i was suprised to find Luke npc in Theed drumming up the rebellion followed twenty minutes later by an ATST attack on the city and several dozen players turning up for a ruck.(My PC crashed so i watched Lost and missed most of it) followed by a little PVP. The only time i saw this pre NGE was the anniversary, when Vader was in Bestine (and applauded and tapped his foot to my alt playing music for him)(nice little screenie there)
Personally i dont want the whiners on this forum playing, You have no frame of reference unless you've logged on in the last few weeks. I speak from experience here, Chimeara is running at better than Pre NGE, which goes to show how bad the server was last oct/nov. Combat is only piss easy if you are knocking off targets that you'd cane with the old style. Yes point click and hold, but then you have your specials on hotkeys like the old days, just less of them so less choice and a bit more strategy comes into play.
For me, so far so good. Im in a nice healthy guild, items i've found myself needing ive found on vendor search and managed to buy. Advice on the official forums has been good, because like many on here back in the day, there is a love of the game. It's not what it was, but its ok. Better than any other mmo i tried.
The only reason i posted was that i'd enjoyed this little home in recent months and wanted to share my experience with posters here(well some of them). I don't give a shit if you don't like what i say. TBH, your just making yourselves look foolish. Play or don't play. You don't want SOE getting your monthly tenner, they don't they're running at a loss right now paying the licence to LA.
Whats the point of coming to this forum day after day, repeating the same thing over and over?? Let it die and mourn privately. Sub or don't, i don't care. But you realise that things have begun to change. Petulant children.