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System · September 11

Preview - New World: Aeternum Open Beta Early Access Event Impressions: Cautious Optimism | MMORPG.com

Amazon's New World: Aeternum is gearing up for its open beta ahead of next month's launch, and we had the chance to experience it hands-on during an early access event last weekend. Here are our thoughts.

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Illindur · September 11

Cant wait to test it! It was such a good concept and it was soooo fun.

Hope more ppl will play it when it releases.

Dattelis · September 11

"Swimming is a nice addition, and it’s weird how something so simple can transform how I travel a region - now I just swim across rivers or small bodies of water instead of having to pick my way around them."

I love how people would twist themselves into knots making excuses as to why AGS didn't add actual swimming, then they finally do it anyway. Simply put, swimming wasn't in the game for as long as it was because AGS was lazy, so people can bury all their theories and 'lore reasoning' in a nice big pile.

I do feel like console can briefly turn it around since a lot of console players are starved for another mmo choice and honestly I'd play New World over BDO on console, but its more of a preference thing.

olepi · September 11

"If combat and the overall combat presentation are why the developers are pushing New World: Aeternum as an MMO ..."

Er, I thought they were pushing it as an ARPG?

"Despite Amazon’s insistence that New World: Aeternum is an ARPG now ..."

Er .....?

Elidien_ga · September 11

So the last major content update was October 2023? Was that when the expansion dropped? Now its a year later when this drops but it adds nothing to PC. Fast forward 6, 9, 12, or more months until we get new content so maybe 2 full years without anything new except "We launched on console".

The article indicates the entire game is built on players and population. And there is none and nothing here will bring them back. Is AGS counting on there being enough console, new player interest for the game to return to its former state? If so, thats a bet I would not take.

lotrlore · September 11

olepi said:

"If combat and the overall combat presentation are why the developers are pushing New World: Aeternum as an MMO ..."

Er, I thought they were pushing it as an ARPG?

"Despite Amazon’s insistence that New World: Aeternum is an ARPG now ..."

Er .....?

Yea, that was a typo. It's fixed now. It should have said

"If combat and the overall presentation are why the developers are no longer pushing New World..."

olepi · September 11

lotrlore said:

olepi said:

"If combat and the overall combat presentation are why the developers are pushing New World: Aeternum as an MMO ..."

Er, I thought they were pushing it as an ARPG?

"Despite Amazon’s insistence that New World: Aeternum is an ARPG now ..."

Er .....?

Yea, that was a typo. It's fixed now. It should have said

"If combat and the overall presentation are why the developers are no longer pushing New World..."

Thanks. I hate to be a stickler on stuff like this, that's what 50 years of programming will do to you. That missing "not" operation has plagued me before

Angrakhan · September 11

Dattelis said:

"Swimming is a nice addition, and it’s weird how something so simple can transform how I travel a region - now I just swim across rivers or small bodies of water instead of having to pick my way around them."

I love how people would twist themselves into knots making excuses as to why AGS didn't add actual swimming, then they finally do it anyway. Simply put, swimming wasn't in the game for as long as it was because AGS was lazy, so people can bury all their theories and 'lore reasoning' in a nice big pile.

I do feel like console can briefly turn it around since a lot of console players are starved for another mmo choice and honestly I'd play New World over BDO on console, but its more of a preference thing.

Same with mounts which were also eventually added

lotrlore · September 11

olepi said:

lotrlore said:

olepi said:

"If combat and the overall combat presentation are why the developers are pushing New World: Aeternum as an MMO ..."

Er, I thought they were pushing it as an ARPG?

"Despite Amazon’s insistence that New World: Aeternum is an ARPG now ..."

Er .....?

Yea, that was a typo. It's fixed now. It should have said

"If combat and the overall presentation are why the developers are no longer pushing New World..."

Thanks. I hate to be a stickler on stuff like this, that's what 50 years of programming will do to you. That missing "not" operation has plagued me before

We will never be mad at people pointing out typos and stuff. We're all human - I knew exactly what I meant there and my eyes glossed over it in the edit. It happens.

olepi · September 11

Are they going to charge for this new release? I bought the original game when it first came out and didn't get hooked. I might try it again with the new stuff added, but not if it is going to cost money. It sounds like it's pretty much the same game for PC.

lotrlore · September 11

olepi said:

Are they going to charge for this new release? I bought the original game when it first came out and didn't get hooked. I might try it again with the new stuff added, but not if it is going to cost money. It sounds like it's pretty much the same game for PC.

If you own the base game and the Angry Earth Expansion already on PC, your existing version will just update to this one at no charge. You'll only need to buy it if you don't own those (or are starting on Console)

najur · September 11

They literally want to milk the console players with an already dead game.
The same old shit, now with swimming and console peasants... Yaaaayyy...

Samhael · September 11

It will be interesting to view (from a distance as I don't plan on returning) how the population rises with the re-launch and how quickly it dips after. I mean, I'm hoping it doesn't dip and that the devs actually start to put in regular content. That just seems so unlikely this far post-launch with how many issues they have run into historically and without an experienced MMO dev team (other than what they may have learned from NW itself).

KnightFalz · September 11

Elidien_ga said:

So the last major content update was October 2023? Was that when the expansion dropped? Now its a year later when this drops but it adds nothing to PC. Fast forward 6, 9, 12, or more months until we get new content so maybe 2 full years without anything new except "We launched on console".

The article indicates the entire game is built on players and population. And there is none and nothing here will bring them back. Is AGS counting on there being enough console, new player interest for the game to return to its former state? If so, thats a bet I would not take.

The PC game will be new. Think of it as New World: A Real Reborn but you get it at no additional cost if you bought New World and the DLC. It is more of change than what adding another update to the first game would have been but haven't finished downloading it to get a better idea of the extent and manner of that changed. As soon as it's done I'll be checking it out.

ShankTheTank · September 11

The next day, Jeremy was the last to arrive

Abimor · September 12

the one thing I don't like is the stupid archetypes they took the best feature from original game and made it worse.
@lotrlore I like your idea it's a ship wreck just have a crate of weapons wash ashore. I prefer the flail and don't see that option maybe I missed it. so you can still level anything then?

Dattelis · September 12

Abimor said:

the one thing I don't like is the stupid archetypes they took the best feature from original game and made it worse.
@lotrlore I like your idea it's a ship wreck just have a crate of weapons wash ashore. I prefer the flail and don't see that option maybe I missed it. so you can still level anything then?

From what the article says, archetypes essentially just work as a guide point and I suppose more veteran players can choose which ever combination they want. Admittedly, I haven't tested Aeterum to know for sure.

Viper482 · September 12

I got 180 hours out of New World, far from perfect but I got my money's worth and haven't even tried the expansion yet.

QMDad2 · September 12

Dattelis said:

Abimor said:

the one thing I don't like is the stupid archetypes they took the best feature from original game and made it worse.
@lotrlore I like your idea it's a ship wreck just have a crate of weapons wash ashore. I prefer the flail and don't see that option maybe I missed it. so you can still level anything then?

From what the article says, archetypes essentially just work as a guide point and I suppose more veteran players can choose which ever combination they want. Admittedly, I haven't tested Aeterum to know for sure.

That is correct they are just a starting point to help people get going. You can still swap out weapons at anytime, and respect at anytime. They don't do anything other than change your Armour at the start and help new players get going.

Terazon · September 12

I like the game and enjoyed it during the console beta more than I thought I would. Hopefully it does well with that crowd. I will play it

Margrave · September 12

Still no dual daggers. No rogue type. /sad

Germzypie · September 12

Elidien_ga said:

So the last major content update was October 2023? Was that when the expansion dropped? Now its a year later when this drops but it adds nothing to PC. Fast forward 6, 9, 12, or more months until we get new content so maybe 2 full years without anything new except "We launched on console".

The article indicates the entire game is built on players and population. And there is none and nothing here will bring them back. Is AGS counting on there being enough console, new player interest for the game to return to its former state? If so, thats a bet I would not take.

Well, it is a buy to play game. They do not really owe you any content. That being said, they did handle it badly. Original game had no mid-game content and a horrible watermark system. Most folks quit shortly after release due to server ques and not much to do after lvl 30ish. This is why only 50% of players hit lvl 30 and only 20% lvl 60. Hopefully that is all fixed now. Console players are a different sort from PC. We shall see....

QMDad2 · September 12

I'm looking forward to trying out the beta with my kid. I loved New World even with all it's problems. If you look at review on steam a lot of them that are negative have 1000s of hours.

The games not perfect but for $60 a 1000 hours is a great $/hr of entertainment even 500 hours it is.

With ESO going down hill and never really played BDO this will be an interesting addition to the ps5 and xbox.

Abimor · September 12

Dattelis said:

Abimor said:

the one thing I don't like is the stupid archetypes they took the best feature from original game and made it worse.
@lotrlore I like your idea it's a ship wreck just have a crate of weapons wash ashore. I prefer the flail and don't see that option maybe I missed it. so you can still level anything then?

From what the article says, archetypes essentially just work as a guide point and I suppose more veteran players can choose which ever combination they want. Admittedly, I haven't tested Aeterum to know for sure.

I read the article I was just confused as to the weapon part I made it past the first intro boss during the console beta or whatever it was. I thought it looked really bad on my xbox but the watermarks they had may have made it look bad.
Im guessing there is no way to pick your bonus for crafting other than taking the ones you want even if its a combo you dislike.

Elidien_ga · September 12

Germzypie said:

Elidien_ga said:

So the last major content update was October 2023? Was that when the expansion dropped? Now its a year later when this drops but it adds nothing to PC. Fast forward 6, 9, 12, or more months until we get new content so maybe 2 full years without anything new except "We launched on console".

The article indicates the entire game is built on players and population. And there is none and nothing here will bring them back. Is AGS counting on there being enough console, new player interest for the game to return to its former state? If so, thats a bet I would not take.

Well, it is a buy to play game. They do not really owe you any content. That being said, they did handle it badly. Original game had no mid-game content and a horrible watermark system. Most folks quit shortly after release due to server ques and not much to do after lvl 30ish. This is why only 50% of players hit lvl 30 and only 20% lvl 60. Hopefully that is all fixed now. Console players are a different sort from PC. We shall see....

If they want people to keep playing their game, then they owe the playerbase some new content. Otherwise, well, they get what they get and right now its servers with sub-300 players in a game that once had 2000+ per server. My point is do not expect your players to hang around (or come back) if you give them nothing new to experience.

bishop916 · September 12

"Or better yet, pull an Elder Scrolls Online, which has a room in its tutorial sequence where every weapon is laid out for you to choose from."

This 100% - although the weighted drops and crafting bonuses kinda will need to be adjusted if you change weapons/armor I'd think...

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