I don't know anything about Japanese laws on this but can a patent be used retrospectively?
Also damn underhanded of them to use sphere. Nintendo uses a ball and Palworld a sphere. They patent should only be for a ball not sphere. That is very sneaky of Nintendo.
Palworld should change the item they use to catch to a rhombus and screw it.
A ball is totally different from a sphere. For starters, a sphere has non-trivial homology and a ball does not.
Don't you think that trapping animals in tiny cages and leaving them there indefinitely until you take them out only to force them to fight is cruelty to animals? Didn't Michael Vick go to prison for something like that? The patent should be invalidated on the basis of being animal cruelty.
I don't know anything about Japanese laws on this but can a patent be used retrospectively?
Also damn underhanded of them to use sphere. Nintendo uses a ball and Palworld a sphere. They patent should only be for a ball not sphere. That is very sneaky of Nintendo.
Palworld should change the item they use to catch to a rhombus and screw it.
A ball is totally different from a sphere. For starters, a sphere has non-trivial homology and a ball does not.
Nintendo's patent says sphere not ball but their games use a ball. By right they should not be allowed to patent spheres.
The actual monster capture game is not something Nintendo can patent but the device can be patented.
Idiot Palworld used a sphere. They could have picked any other shape ...fools!!
Nintendo didn't patent just the device used for capturing. It looks like they patented a lot of the process on how the capture works, so that competitors can copy their idea, but they'd have to make the process somewhat different.
All those games you mentioned could probably have used a sphere without running into the patent since they did a lot of work to design their own capture mechanisms. As opposite to Palword, who have in some aspects of their game clearly aimed to copy Pokemon as much as legally possible.
It's funny but awhile back I mentioned Nintendo were bad for this kind of thing and that they were prob just waiting for the game to release to look through it with a fine comb before going after Palworld and many scoffed....LOL
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It's funny but awhile back I mentioned Nintendo were bad for this kind of thing and that they were prob just waiting for the game to release to look through it with a fine comb before going after Palworld and many scoffed....LOL
More likely they were waiting see if PalWorld would be successful and make a lot of money.
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It's funny but awhile back I mentioned Nintendo were bad for this kind of thing and that they were prob just waiting for the game to release to look through it with a fine comb before going after Palworld and many scoffed....LOL
More likely they were waiting see if PalWorld would be successful and make a lot of money.
Once it did Nintendo's lawyers went, "Cha-ching!"
No doubt about that too but they go after the small fries too, they are known to be very aggressive in that regard.
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Good point, apparently other companies thought to use a different shape and haven't run into an issue over said use.
Thing is there are a world of watches and mobiles that look a lot more similar than those in game devices, but maybe in the world of gaming copyright works differently?
Good point, apparently other companies thought to use a different shape and haven't run into an issue over said use.
Thing is there are a world of watches and mobiles that look a lot more similar than those in game devices, but maybe in the world of gaming copyright works differently?
Oh no, works exactly the same in the mobile world
"Apple and Samsung
Apple sued Samsung in 2011 for copying the iPhone's design, and the case went through a series of trials, appeals, and countersuits, including a stop at the Supreme Court in 2016. The case was settled in 2018, with Apple receiving $539 million from Samsung"
Apparently Nokia holds key patents in 4G/5G tech which the entire industry is beholding to and they are in major battles with Chinese phone makers over royalties and fees right now
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Remember when they wouldn't even go after them? Nintendo had to wait until these guys started making so much money that Nintendo couldn't ignore them anymore....
It is distressing to see that no matter how much time passes, Nintendo is still a big greedy dickhead that'll do anything to take out competition.
EDIT: This is really frustrating because all these guys (this small group of developers) all they wanted to do was create a monster taming game that GameFreak and The Pokemon Company refused to make.... that is really all they are doing, that's why people love Palworld so much.
They shouldn't be punished for trying to make a better video game.
So... enslaving animals and people to do chores is what GameFreak refused to make...? Stop reaching out of your ass. The entire gimmick is what 'adults' wanted.
How do you forget Pokemon is a series for CHILDREN? Why do you ADULT people always get so uppity over a kid's game?
It's not monster taming; the entire "Pokemon with guns" idea is something people decided it was, and the enslaving mechanic... is clearly not simply monster taming. It's a survival game with gimmicks based off of creature catching games.
Bintendo can suck eggs. They haven't made a good Pokemon game in over a decade.
Curious to find out which patent is supposedly being infringed upon, but I hope they lose.
Just a wealthy company exploiting the patent system to bully the competition.
Ah yes, the terminally online kid that has some weird anti-Nintendo fetish.
Nintendo doesn't MAKE Pokemon games.
How many times have people decided to go in with misinformation?
Nintendo may be bad, but the 'gamers' are worse, especially with their false narratives and their biased lies. Bayonetta 3's fiasco happened because of you terminally online manchildren.
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Same people think the older games are oh-so-great. Ah, yes, the need for grinding for HGSS's endgame, on top of it's slow pacing. Yeah, it's actually slow. Sun and Moon was also slow. Black and White was the fastest Pokemon ever was, including a 60FPS battle scene.
They peaked then and never recovered, but it's not like the games have been unplayable or super awful. They've been middling, at best. So, what? It's not for adults.
Have you seen the neckbeards that gather around during Nintendo/Pokemon events?
Look at Splatoon competitions. The American team, full of adults, while the Japan team's a bunch of teenagers; like what the actual F?
People think 'infringement' relates to design, even though it says 'patent infringement'.
Nintendo had a petty-as-hell case on Shironeko Project, over it's control scheme. You'd think it was because Shironeko was the superior Dragalia Lost (in terms of gameplay, not progression), but Shironeko had supposedly infringed on their control scheme due to a NINTENDO DS PATENT.
They settled that out of court, with Shironeko Project changing their controls. It was fine for much of the game's life, until Dragalia Lost was around. Shironeko's control change was also kind of stupid, but what could they do? The only plus is that it still worked well.
There's been precedence, but somehow it's super surprising to many.
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All those games you mentioned could probably have used a sphere without running into the patent since they did a lot of work to design their own capture mechanisms. As opposite to Palword, who have in some aspects of their game clearly aimed to copy Pokemon as much as legally possible.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Once it did Nintendo's lawyers went, "Cha-ching!"
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No doubt about that too but they go after the small fries too, they are known to be very aggressive in that regard.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Apparently Nokia holds key patents in 4G/5G tech which the entire industry is beholding to and they are in major battles with Chinese phone makers over royalties and fees right now
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/nokias-patent-dispute-persists-china-despite-deal-with-one-smartphone-maker-2024-01-04/
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So... enslaving animals and people to do chores is what GameFreak refused to make...? Stop reaching out of your ass. The entire gimmick is what 'adults' wanted.
How do you forget Pokemon is a series for CHILDREN? Why do you ADULT people always get so uppity over a kid's game?
It's not monster taming; the entire "Pokemon with guns" idea is something people decided it was, and the enslaving mechanic... is clearly not simply monster taming. It's a survival game with gimmicks based off of creature catching games.
Ah yes, the terminally online kid that has some weird anti-Nintendo fetish.
Nintendo doesn't MAKE Pokemon games.
How many times have people decided to go in with misinformation?
Nintendo may be bad, but the 'gamers' are worse, especially with their false narratives and their biased lies. Bayonetta 3's fiasco happened because of you terminally online manchildren.
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Same people think the older games are oh-so-great. Ah, yes, the need for grinding for HGSS's endgame, on top of it's slow pacing. Yeah, it's actually slow. Sun and Moon was also slow. Black and White was the fastest Pokemon ever was, including a 60FPS battle scene.
They peaked then and never recovered, but it's not like the games have been unplayable or super awful. They've been middling, at best. So, what? It's not for adults.
Have you seen the neckbeards that gather around during Nintendo/Pokemon events?
Look at Splatoon competitions. The American team, full of adults, while the Japan team's a bunch of teenagers; like what the actual F?
People think 'infringement' relates to design, even though it says 'patent infringement'.
Nintendo had a petty-as-hell case on Shironeko Project, over it's control scheme. You'd think it was because Shironeko was the superior Dragalia Lost (in terms of gameplay, not progression), but Shironeko had supposedly infringed on their control scheme due to a NINTENDO DS PATENT.
They settled that out of court, with Shironeko Project changing their controls. It was fine for much of the game's life, until Dragalia Lost was around. Shironeko's control change was also kind of stupid, but what could they do? The only plus is that it still worked well.
There's been precedence, but somehow it's super surprising to many.