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Star Citizen Server Meshing Testing Updates Outline Latency Issues, Bathroom Lines | MMORPG.com

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edited September 28 in News & Features Discussion

imageStar Citizen Server Meshing Testing Updates Outline Latency Issues, Bathroom Lines | MMORPG.com

A lead developer behind Star Citizen's highly-watched server meshing system outlined the results of recent server meshing testing. 

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  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,224
    I thought the huge line was people gettin on the 890jump, there was so many people on that thing till it got blown up by a terrorist lol
    riningearKyleran

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481
    Server meshing? It can't be that important, right?
    Kyleran

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    The biggest lines are filled with those demanding refunds
    strawhat0981Babuinixriningear
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,056
    Server meshing may be the one feature that brings this whole crazy train to a halt if they can't get it working correctly.

    They've spent far too much effort to walk back on this approach not does starting over seem realistic.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649

    Kyleran said:

    Server meshing may be the one feature that brings this whole crazy train to a halt if they can't get it working correctly.



    They've spent far too much effort to walk back on this approach not does starting over seem realistic.






    Revisions have never been Roberts problem.

    He will just put up a “poll” worded to sound like”should we rush the game and force the server meshing? Or should we continue to create the Best Damn Space Sim and go create this new tech that is super cool and nobody else has done?”

    Then point to the next 5 year delay as a result of the players desires.

    The only obstacle to that is funding, which never shows signs of drying up.

    And of course the investors… which is why we will see SQ42 pushed out at some point so Roberts doesn’t lose his company.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    Kyleran said:
    Server meshing may be the one feature that brings this whole crazy train to a halt if they can't get it working correctly.

    They've spent far too much effort to walk back on this approach not does starting over seem realistic.

    I remember a good video on how server meshing is far more important than the game itself,  This is because it would be the first of its kind they could license to others.
  • GrindcoreTHRALLGrindcoreTHRALL Member UncommonPosts: 335
    Its coming along but taking forever
    strawhat0981
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423
    Looks like our SC white knights have latency issues as well, they haven't got here yet. :)
    Wargfoot
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,056

    Kyleran said:

    Server meshing may be the one feature that brings this whole crazy train to a halt if they can't get it working correctly.



    They've spent far too much effort to walk back on this approach not does starting over seem realistic.






    Revisions have never been Roberts problem.

    He will just put up a “poll” worded to sound like”should we rush the game and force the server meshing? Or should we continue to create the Best Damn Space Sim and go create this new tech that is super cool and nobody else has done?”

    Then point to the next 5 year delay as a result of the players desires.

    The only obstacle to that is funding, which never shows signs of drying up.

    And of course the investors… which is why we will see SQ42 pushed out at some point so Roberts doesn’t lose his company.
    You are right. I keep forgetting we are talking about a cult of believers instead of examining normal consumer behaviors.

    This likely won't ever come to an end.


    Slapshot1188Herithius

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  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,224
    I dont know why you people that hate SC even come in here. All you do is say the same "jokes" every time. That is why SC fan dont come to this site, or really any other fans of mmo games because its the same people shit talking every game that is talked about.
    KyleranAsm0deusFrodoFraginsMadBomber13

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,462
    I dont know why you people that hate SC even come in here. All you do is say the same "jokes" every time. That is why SC fan dont come to this site, or really any other fans of mmo games because its the same people shit talking every game that is talked about.
    Impressive how they keep parroting the same ignorance year after year, but then again these jadded mmo vet's have become so comfortable being miserable that they won't dare to see it any other way as they would then have to self reflect deep into the source of their sadness.  B)
    KyleranAsm0deus
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,056
    edited September 29
    I dont know why you people that hate SC even come in here. All you do is say the same "jokes" every time. That is why SC fan dont come to this site, or really any other fans of mmo games because its the same people shit talking every game that is talked about.
    The main game will still be in a pre-release condition in 2030.



    Don't bother, you've got nothing.  ;)

    Why do you feel the need to come here and defend the indefensible?  I imagine that must be terribly distressing to have almost no rational arguments to make a case for this entire farcical effort.

    Now the rest of us here well know that this is what winning feels like.



    Who knows, maybe one day in the distant future SC backers will revel as well.

    But that's not the way to bet.
    Phoenix_HawkFrodoFragins

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,056
    Babuinix said:
    I dont know why you people that hate SC even come in here. All you do is say the same "jokes" every time. That is why SC fan dont come to this site, or really any other fans of mmo games because its the same people shit talking every game that is talked about.
    Impressive how they keep parroting the same ignorance year after year, but then again these jadded mmo vet's have become so comfortable being miserable that they won't dare to see it any other way as they would then have to self reflect deep into the source of their sadness.  
    Yet year after year SC doesn't appear to be any closer to release than the year before. Why would any of us feel sad when we keep winning every year?



    Now they are working towards the 4.0 release, something many fans expected would happen shortly after 3.10.

    Then comes what, working towards Alpha 5.0, care to take any guesses on how many 4.x points releases that will take? 10, 15, more?

    The question really is why are you and others irrationally supporting it still?






    ScotPhoenix_Hawk

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • jenk3mjenk3m Member UncommonPosts: 27
    edited September 29
    Sunk costs often influence people's decisions,[7][14] with people believing that investments (i.e., sunk costs) justify further expenditures.[16] People demonstrate "a greater tendency to continue an endeavor once an investment in money, effort, or time has been made".[17][18] This is the sunk cost fallacy, and such behavior may be described as "throwing good money after bad",[19][14] while refusing to succumb to what may be described as "cutting one's losses".[14] People can remain in failing relationships because they "have already invested too much to leave"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
    FrodoFragins
  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,224
    Like I said, what do yall care? This is suppose to be a place SC players/fan should be able to talk about updates. You just come here to shit talk. That is why this site is just about dead, I only come here because I have for a long time.
    Asm0deus

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423
    ""People can remain in failing relationships because they "have already invested too much to leave" ""

    Sounds like the story of my love life. :)
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Like I said, what do yall care? This is suppose to be a place SC players/fan should be able to talk about updates. You just come here to shit talk. That is why this site is just about dead, I only come here because I have for a long time.
    I care because I'm waiting for the SQ42 game. which has become irreversibly tied into the development of SC.

    Probably longer than you as I'm an original Golden Ticket owner.

    I played in the last Free Fly event with my friends.  It was better than I expected, looked great, but had almost unplayable lag at times, was ridiculously hard to actually group together and was really lacking the "game" portion of the game.

    After all this time I really just want to play SQ42.
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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,458
    Babuinix said:
    I dont know why you people that hate SC even come in here. All you do is say the same "jokes" every time. That is why SC fan dont come to this site, or really any other fans of mmo games because its the same people shit talking every game that is talked about.
    Impressive how they keep parroting the same ignorance year after year, but then again these jadded mmo vet's have become so comfortable being miserable that they won't dare to see it any other way as they would then have to self reflect deep into the source of their sadness.  B)
    I think you may be confusing "hate and bitterness" with "pointing and laughing".
    It is a weird projection, to think anyone here is upset at a game that won't release.

    I hope they get the server meshing working though.
    It would be better to have SC be a huge success than it would be to have it fail.
    Asm0deusScotMadBomber13
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Wargfoot said:
    Babuinix said:
    I dont know why you people that hate SC even come in here. All you do is say the same "jokes" every time. That is why SC fan dont come to this site, or really any other fans of mmo games because its the same people shit talking every game that is talked about.
    Impressive how they keep parroting the same ignorance year after year, but then again these jadded mmo vet's have become so comfortable being miserable that they won't dare to see it any other way as they would then have to self reflect deep into the source of their sadness.  B)
    I think you may be confusing "hate and bitterness" with "pointing and laughing".
    It is a weird projection, to think anyone here is upset at a game that won't release.

    I hope they get the server meshing working though.
    It would be better to have SC be a huge success than it would be to have it fail.
    In my case it's USUALLY not hate, bitterness or laughing.

    It's sadness.

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  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,224
    Like I said, what do yall care? This is suppose to be a place SC players/fan should be able to talk about updates. You just come here to shit talk. That is why this site is just about dead, I only come here because I have for a long time.
    I care because I'm waiting for the SQ42 game. which has become irreversibly tied into the development of SC.

    Probably longer than you as I'm an original Golden Ticket owner.

    I played in the last Free Fly event with my friends.  It was better than I expected, looked great, but had almost unplayable lag at times, was ridiculously hard to actually group together and was really lacking the "game" portion of the game.

    After all this time I really just want to play SQ42.
    Longer than me you say?  

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,053
    Like I said, what do yall care? This is suppose to be a place SC players/fan should be able to talk about updates. You just come here to shit talk. That is why this site is just about dead, I only come here because I have for a long time.
    As someone who has been on large projects with hundreds of designers/engineers, sometimes international, with years in development I take a professional interest in the project management side of this game development. As my sig says, I've been in high tech now for about 50 years.

    I spent two years on a huge international development in Germany, France, UK, and multiple design centers in the US. I left because I didn't believe in the management, and a year after I left they canceled the project. We estimated $800 million was lost with no product to show for it. SC is approaching that number and it makes me interested.

    As for the game, I really hope they succeed. I enjoyed the Wing Commander games and really loved Privateer and Freelancer. I don't "hate" the game at all, I want it to come out and be great.
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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481
    olepi said:
    Like I said, what do yall care? This is suppose to be a place SC players/fan should be able to talk about updates. You just come here to shit talk. That is why this site is just about dead, I only come here because I have for a long time.
    As someone who has been on large projects with hundreds of designers/engineers, sometimes international, with years in development I take a professional interest in the project management side of this game development. As my sig says, I've been in high tech now for about 50 years.

    I spent two years on a huge international development in Germany, France, UK, and multiple design centers in the US. I left because I didn't believe in the management, and a year after I left they canceled the project. We estimated $800 million was lost with no product to show for it. SC is approaching that number and it makes me interested.

    As for the game, I really hope they succeed. I enjoyed the Wing Commander games and really loved Privateer and Freelancer. I don't "hate" the game at all, I want it to come out and be great.

    Roberts is a vainglorious and pompous stuffed shirt.  He had to be rescued from his incompetence in WC1, both managerial and in programming.  He wasn't picked to helm WC2. On WC3 and 4, he spent most of his time playing pretend movie director. Privateer was done by a different crew.  Freelancer had to be rescued from Roberts managerial and financial incompetence at Digital Anvil as well.  And since these things apparently have not changed over the years, the outcome is certainly hazy, ask again later.

    You know this, of course. Preaching to the choir.  It's still just a sign that he's probably not the best chance for such a game to realistically get delivered. Hell, they can't even deliver the single player game, despite it being hugely less difficult than SC.


     Though maybe the Calders....
    Phoenix_Hawk

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    olepi said:
    Like I said, what do yall care? This is suppose to be a place SC players/fan should be able to talk about updates. You just come here to shit talk. That is why this site is just about dead, I only come here because I have for a long time.
    As someone who has been on large projects with hundreds of designers/engineers, sometimes international, with years in development I take a professional interest in the project management side of this game development. As my sig says, I've been in high tech now for about 50 years.

    I spent two years on a huge international development in Germany, France, UK, and multiple design centers in the US. I left because I didn't believe in the management, and a year after I left they canceled the project. We estimated $800 million was lost with no product to show for it. SC is approaching that number and it makes me interested.

    As for the game, I really hope they succeed. I enjoyed the Wing Commander games and really loved Privateer and Freelancer. I don't "hate" the game at all, I want it to come out and be great.

    Roberts is a vainglorious and pompous stuffed shirt.  He had to be rescued from his incompetence in WC1, both managerial and in programming.  He wasn't picked to helm WC2. On WC3 and 4, he spent most of his time playing pretend movie director. Privateer was done by a different crew.  Freelancer had to be rescued from Roberts managerial and financial incompetence at Digital Anvil as well.  And since these things apparently have not changed over the years, the outcome is certainly hazy, ask again later.

    You know this, of course. Preaching to the choir.  It's still just a sign that he's probably not the best chance for such a game to realistically get delivered. Hell, they can't even deliver the single player game, despite it being hugely less difficult than SC.


     Though maybe the Calders....
    Yet somehow, despite all that I still liked the Wing Commander movie (yes.. I KNOW it was bad!), and when I hear the music and watch the Bishop speech video, I WANT to believe!

    PS: I can't believe that video is now 8 years old...  sigh


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  • EldrachEldrach Member RarePosts: 464
    Simple incompetence tbh. Server meshing has been done by The Elder Scrolls online and world of warcraft for over 10 years now.
    GrindcoreTHRALLBabuinixFrodoFraginsErillion
  • GrindcoreTHRALLGrindcoreTHRALL Member UncommonPosts: 335
    Eldrach said:
    Simple incompetence tbh. Server meshing has been done by The Elder Scrolls online and world of warcraft for over 10 years now.
    Wrong
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