Ashes of Creation Previews Lionhold Starting City and Alpha Two Guide Ahead of Next Month's Start |

System · October 1

Ashes of Creation Previews Lionhold Starting City and Alpha Two Guide Ahead of Next Month's Start | MMORPG.com

Ashes of Creation will be heading into the next alpha phase on October 25th. Intrepid Studios' recent development stream features a preview of the starting area of Lionhold and a guide to Alpha Two overall.

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Homura235 · October 1

I'll be dead before this game releases.

Slapshot1188 · October 1

Nah. I think we are about a year and a half from the "release".

Nanfoodle · October 1

My guess is 1-2 years. From the last couple of streams they hope A2 is only about a year. I don't think they will get all the content in that time. IMO navel combat will be post launch. This update really is the start of the test of this games Metal.

Zandog · October 1

Homura235 said:

I'll be dead before this game releases.

This isn't a Star Citizen thread. You'll be okay.

Scot · October 1

I can wait two years but by the look of it happy to wait four years.

Still, it is chugging along with an end in sight.

Wargfoot · October 1

Scot said:

I can wait two years but by the look of it happy to wait four years.

Still, it is chugging along with an end in sight.

They'll pull a Hytale/Star Citizen/etc where they'll update an engine, rewrite the netware, overhaul the artwork, or need to reconfigure the tachyon drive.

Scot · October 1

Wargfoot said:

Scot said:

I can wait two years but by the look of it happy to wait four years.

Still, it is chugging along with an end in sight.

They'll pull a Hytale/Star Citizen/etc where they'll update an engine, rewrite the netware, overhaul the artwork, or need to reconfigure the tachyon drive.

Has it got VR, a voxel version and a board game yet?

xDrac · October 1

Finally a proper starting area again, I've been missing this in new MMORPGs...

Germzypie · October 1

I can wait 1-2 more years. Honestly, if you asked me 5 years ago if i would ever be hyped for this game, the answer would have been a hard no. I don't really agree with how they are monitizing alpha and beta but it is what it is. Now, with all the crap games that have released the past few years, this is the only game on my radar and i continue to get a little bit more hyped after each dev video.

Herithius · October 1

Alpha 1 to Alpha 2 has taken them 3 years. Id be happy to be wrong but I cant fathom release in 1-2 years at this rate of development.

Slapshot1188 · October 1

Herithius said:

Alpha 1 to Alpha 2 has taken them 3 years. Id be happy to be wrong but I cant fathom release in 1-2 years at this rate of development.

The burn rate is real.

Tiller · October 1

Let me get this straight, no one but the devs have actually played this right?

Sovrath · October 1

Tiller said:

Let me get this straight, no one but the devs have actually played this right?

I think that would be a wrong. Didn’t backers play it?

Slapshot1188 · October 1

Sovrath said:

Tiller said:

Let me get this straight, no one but the devs have actually played this right?

I think that would be a wrong. Didn’t backers play it?

Correct- There have been limited playtests of parts of the game.

They dropped their NDA a while back so we should see some videos from the test when it opens.

Babuinix · October 2

Homura235 said:

I'll be dead before this game releases.

Life Goals! 101

Nanfoodle · October 2

Slapshot1188 said:

Sovrath said:

Tiller said:

Let me get this straight, no one but the devs have actually played this right?

I think that would be a wrong. Didn’t backers play it?

Correct- There have been limited playtests of parts of the game.

They dropped their NDA a while back so we should see some videos from the test when it opens.

They have about 19k A1 testers. I think it's 6k of them have been have been invited to A2. A1 testers are active on the main forum. They are mostly a positive bunch. One of my favourite take aways is the speed IS resopds to the testers feed back. Sometimes even the very next day action is taken.

Tokken · October 2

It's nice to see a starting city (zone).

goemoe · October 2

1-2 years to release? I doubt it. They will find reasons to create Alpha 3 or 4, monitize it and then go for the thrilling "AI powered Unreal 6" to make the game as they envision it and the never ending story starts over.

8 Years to Alpha 1/2... as long as they are able to sell some Beta 1-4 accounts, the won't release the game.

Babuinix · October 2

goemoe said:

1-2 years to release? I doubt it. They will find reasons to create Alpha 3 or 4, monitize it and then go for the thrilling "AI powered Unreal 6" to make the game as they envision it and the never ending story starts over.

8 Years to Alpha 1/2... as long as they are able to sell some Beta 1-4 accounts, the won't release the game.

That's like the dumbest theory ever.

Scot · October 2

goemoe said:

1-2 years to release? I doubt it. They will find reasons to create Alpha 3 or 4, monitize it and then go for the thrilling "AI powered Unreal 6" to make the game as they envision it and the never ending story starts over.

8 Years to Alpha 1/2... as long as they are able to sell some Beta 1-4 accounts, the won't release the game.

That is not impossible, we have seen the finish line kicked into the grass so many times on so many projects.

Nanfoodle · October 2

Scot said:

goemoe said:

1-2 years to release? I doubt it. They will find reasons to create Alpha 3 or 4, monitize it and then go for the thrilling "AI powered Unreal 6" to make the game as they envision it and the never ending story starts over.

8 Years to Alpha 1/2... as long as they are able to sell some Beta 1-4 accounts, the won't release the game.

That is not impossible, we have seen the finish line kicked into the grass so many times on so many projects.

Steven has said A2 is the last alpha and will turn into the test server once they start Beta 1 and Beta 2 servers. Could they go another 4 years in A2, sure. Steven has said though. Being a UE5 game, they know they have a window to when launching they would be relevant. No sense going 5-7 years more when the game will get a dated tag because they release after UE6 drops. Also, Steven is getting some money from the fan but he is also putting in his own money. They are at about 250 staff now and still hiring. Thats not the mark of a developer trying to dig in like SC. His staff are getting paid between 100k to 200k a year and his staff get bonuses for the speed they make things. Forever Alpha does not make sense.

Slapshot1188 · October 2

Nanfoodle said:

Scot said:

goemoe said:

1-2 years to release? I doubt it. They will find reasons to create Alpha 3 or 4, monitize it and then go for the thrilling "AI powered Unreal 6" to make the game as they envision it and the never ending story starts over.

8 Years to Alpha 1/2... as long as they are able to sell some Beta 1-4 accounts, the won't release the game.

That is not impossible, we have seen the finish line kicked into the grass so many times on so many projects.

Steven has said A2 is the last alpha and will turn into the test server once they start Beta 1 and Beta 2 servers. Could they go another 4 years in A2, sure. Steven has said though. Being a UE5 game, they know they have a window to when launching they would be relevant. No sense going 5-7 years more when the game will get a dated tag because they release after UE6 drops. Also, Steven is getting some money from the fan but he is also putting in his own money. They are at about 250 staff now and still hiring. Thats not the mark of a developer trying to dig in like SC. His staff are getting paid between 100k to 200k a year and his staff get bonuses for the speed they make things. Forever Alpha does not make sense.

Stephen's supposed "up to $30M" is long since gone. If it ever even materialized. And we have no visibility on if he paid himself back from the funding. Dude is not a billionaire. Even with all the Xango juice he supposedly sold as a miracle cure (or more accurately, recruited people to sell and funnel money up to him).

Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2... Early Access.. All just words anymore. As I said, I do believe they "launch" in around 18 months but what that consists of or looks like... I have no idea.

Nanfoodle · October 2

Slapshot1188 said:

Nanfoodle said:

Scot said:

goemoe said:

1-2 years to release? I doubt it. They will find reasons to create Alpha 3 or 4, monitize it and then go for the thrilling "AI powered Unreal 6" to make the game as they envision it and the never ending story starts over.

8 Years to Alpha 1/2... as long as they are able to sell some Beta 1-4 accounts, the won't release the game.

That is not impossible, we have seen the finish line kicked into the grass so many times on so many projects.

Steven has said A2 is the last alpha and will turn into the test server once they start Beta 1 and Beta 2 servers. Could they go another 4 years in A2, sure. Steven has said though. Being a UE5 game, they know they have a window to when launching they would be relevant. No sense going 5-7 years more when the game will get a dated tag because they release after UE6 drops. Also, Steven is getting some money from the fan but he is also putting in his own money. They are at about 250 staff now and still hiring. Thats not the mark of a developer trying to dig in like SC. His staff are getting paid between 100k to 200k a year and his staff get bonuses for the speed they make things. Forever Alpha does not make sense.

Stephen's supposed "up to $30M" is long since gone. If it ever even materialized. And we have no visibility on if he paid himself back from the funding. Dude is not a billionaire. Even with all the Xango juice he supposedly sold as a miracle cure (or more accurately, recruited people to sell and funnel money up to him).

Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2... Early Access.. All just words anymore. As I said, I do believe they "launch" in around 18 months but what that consists of or looks like... I have no idea.

I agree with what you said but maybe my point I was trying to make did not come across. If Steven was trying to prolong development why does he keep growing the staff and incentivizing them to work quicker with bonuses for doing so? Why would he miss a launch that would make the game relevant with UE5? He has about 2-5 years to make that happen or he has just lost allot of money for what? I get he may but looking at the facts, it does not make sense. Im not saying he does not bend and sometimes break the truth. Just the facts dont line up what the comment I responded to.

Germzypie · October 2

Nanfoodle said:

Slapshot1188 said:

Nanfoodle said:

Scot said:

goemoe said:

1-2 years to release? I doubt it. They will find reasons to create Alpha 3 or 4, monitize it and then go for the thrilling "AI powered Unreal 6" to make the game as they envision it and the never ending story starts over.

8 Years to Alpha 1/2... as long as they are able to sell some Beta 1-4 accounts, the won't release the game.

That is not impossible, we have seen the finish line kicked into the grass so many times on so many projects.

Steven has said A2 is the last alpha and will turn into the test server once they start Beta 1 and Beta 2 servers. Could they go another 4 years in A2, sure. Steven has said though. Being a UE5 game, they know they have a window to when launching they would be relevant. No sense going 5-7 years more when the game will get a dated tag because they release after UE6 drops. Also, Steven is getting some money from the fan but he is also putting in his own money. They are at about 250 staff now and still hiring. Thats not the mark of a developer trying to dig in like SC. His staff are getting paid between 100k to 200k a year and his staff get bonuses for the speed they make things. Forever Alpha does not make sense.

Stephen's supposed "up to $30M" is long since gone. If it ever even materialized. And we have no visibility on if he paid himself back from the funding. Dude is not a billionaire. Even with all the Xango juice he supposedly sold as a miracle cure (or more accurately, recruited people to sell and funnel money up to him).

Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2... Early Access.. All just words anymore. As I said, I do believe they "launch" in around 18 months but what that consists of or looks like... I have no idea.

I agree with what you said but maybe my point I was trying to make did not come across. If Steven was trying to prolong development why does he keep growing the staff and incentivizing them to work quicker with bonuses for doing so? Why would he miss a launch that would make the game relevant with UE5? He has about 2-5 years to make that happen or he has just lost allot of money for what? I get he may but looking at the facts, it does not make sense. Im not saying he does not bend and sometimes break the truth. Just the facts dont line up what the comment I responded to.

Pretty sure they have investor groups now. Which take a percentage of those profits and probably demand they abide by certain timelines.

Nanfoodle · October 2

I have heard that as well but I have seen no confirmations.

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