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Star Citizen's 1.0 Overview at CitizenCon Promises Player Org Space Stations, Fuller Gameplay System
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Star Citizen's 1.0 Overview at CitizenCon Promises Player Org Space Stations, Fuller Gameplay Systems and More | MMORPG.com
These are the major takeaways that Roberts Space Industries introduced for the game's commercial 1.0 release.
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In the end, a more complicated Eve Online sim was the right move, the only move. Hopefully we're not looking at another 10 years until a v1.0 release.
Another interesting missing "detail" in all the big talk about SC 1.0 was the very notable absence of any date. Without it, it was hardly much more than CIG explaining what people already knew, i.e. why SC 1.0 is 1.0 and not alpha or beta. Thank you very much, CIG, for taking the time to explain what a released game is, without actually saying when (even approximately) you plan to have your game enter such state. Now half of your original backers can die of old age satisfied in their confirmed knowledge of what SC 1.0 should be, without actually having played it.
What they've announced for players to craft every item in-game, crafting even their own ships... Then item qualities, crafting tiers, etc.. We went from crafting being a tabu topic, to "craft a ship!, years ago this would have been unthinkable.
Another MAJOR direction shift towards MMO is the content, party-based dungeons, an instanced story campaign inside SC itself.
Not to talk about base building, giant focus there now, settling, exploiting planet resources, all the way up to entire orgs and their logistical operations + space stations. And in the question of orgs we're on something more on the lines of EVE, which is also a good direction for their end-game tbh.
But on the first panel, the Genesis stuff. The context here is more akin to the game no longer going to just map all its locations on your map, with a mass scaling of locations per area as a planet from ~100 to thousands the objective is you explore, you find the locations, you're meant to organically explore as you travel instead.
It's no longer that "grab mission, go to X place and do Y".
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There's more on elements of exploration, on the actual guild alliances that handle/provide exploration content; and profitable exploration when it comes to trading information, be it finding a transient jump gate (the routes that open and close at random), valuable resource deposits (for base building extraction ops for example), or just selling valuable map pins (which was also announced as a thing). On this citcon panels they didn't really touch those, but they were talked about before.
Yep, no surprise. It still makes all their claims of scaling tech and swift delivery look bad though. And their decade of selling 'exploration' ships look even worse...
May 2024 - What is Actually in 1.0?
- Main Story Content for the PU
- Guilds [Crime, Science, Mercenary etc]
- 5 star systems [Nyx, Terra, Castra etc]
- Crafting blueprints
- Etc
Which makes their further leak on 1.0 monetization all the more interestingJune 2024 - Future Monetization
As with the 1.0 feature list none of this was finalized at the time, but these were seemingly CIG's internal proposals:Anyone surprised?
This is the saddest part. I backed the game during its kickstarter campaign and pledge a measely $60 for a 300i. I had hope the game would have been finished years ago. But it looks like it'll be a fancy tech demo for another decade and I may be dead by then. It's partly the community's fault, but mostly Chris's fault. He asked if the community wanted a "GAME" or a "UNIVERSE". For those of us who are too young to remember or know about this, the community chose "UNIVERSE" and the bloat and feature creep flooded in unabated. I suppose Chris wouldn't have made nearly as much money as he already has if he made a "Game" but at least he likely would have had a finished product by now as long as he did not run out of money from backers and investors.
Star citizen has promised too much without knowing if they can even fulfill those promises. They give a lot of talk and false dreams. I honestly won't put in another cent. I'm especially disappointed that they didn't give a release date for 1.0, but were able to give a 2026 release date for SQ42. Meaning 1.0 won't come until way after that at the least. Maybe 2028 or 2030 given how slow they do things now. It's just sad.
How the hell can SQ42 be feature complete last year this time, but take another 3 years to polish? WTF. It's a single player game. I bet it's just about money and marketing. Leading people on by the nose year after year hoping they'll just buy more ships, and more ships, one after the other, so they can get more money, is their entire income model. People stop buying ship, no money to fund the game in any capacity. Even after release this will remain true. You think a measely $15 a month subscription will come close to players who drop $10k a piece on large ships? CIG isn't giving that up. It's unsustainable otherwise.
If they really wanted to release SQ42 asap they'd release it to backers in alpha then beta, then full release while they clear up bugs and polish things further. 2 more years of private bug fixing and polishing is insane.
Anyone want to take bets that there will be more delays?
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Not to worry, Planet Tech v5 will change everything!
Just like v4 did...
2019: 'Our final version... future proof... a fundamental change in how fast we can build planets...'
Not a word about cryto, play to earn, or blockchain.
Shocking.
Let them cook!
Fun this is they don't even need to sell anything for cash upfront, just do it the way EVE does it, buy currency and buy what currency buys in-game...
Planet tech can do its job, artists were doing the work to create planets, moons and their content, so they moved to scale with AI.
Also SC is being created basically debt free unlike EVE and most other titles out.
But it's no surprise RI will monetize heavily, won't be run as a charity project to the benefit of all gamers.
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But EVE has also tried to sell ships directly, which was so pointless when you already do the above:
Debt free is a mirage, especially with investors with ~70min in, the way they mainly fund, ship sales, is also not that effective there is a huge backlog as is of liability to implement, and the more ships the more of a growing nightmare it is to update and balance the game.
I would say the current funding method is NOT efficient, creates a lot of artist debt that will take years to recoup even if they stopped selling any new ship today.
ik lol, but just don't give them ideas or SOON "spaceship loot boxes"
Yep, that'd all seem great and wise, if CIG hadn't started out with a scalable generative system around 8 years ago.
Before pivoting to more authored, customisable systems from v2 on. (Which looked prettier in the test solar system, but have proved unfit for broader purposes. Despite claims to the contrary.)
Will the CIG unvirtuous circle continue, with CR deciding this new automated process isn't pretty enough? Time will tell
Is this true?
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The procedural system was still artist-driven, that is the artists "hand drawn" on the surface of planets and the procgen did the rest to fill in. Then artists manually created/placed locations on the already generated surface.
What the procedural tech was not doing, is locations, which what this tech/set of tools is meant to do. So it's not only about generating terrain, biomes, etc... But also physicalizing that together with the placement of locations, from outposts, to caves, to settlements, etc...
We're talking about more than just what the procedural tech was doing up until now, we're talking it going all the way to generate/spawn the content that artists manually create right now... Including missions, without artist/designer input.
Nope, that was v2. Initially they just used classic proc gen. Check CIG's vid there in full.
That's the spirit.
That's the history of the tech itself, that 101 saying they needed biomes, when the first planet released it was already that version.
And that already looks better than the artist-driven approach that's released right now.
So I guess it's working out for them?
My roommate and I like to joke that the ships are just NFTs before NFTs were invented...
Looks like pretty standard proc gen surfaces with SpeedTree turned up to max to me. Classic demo fair. But each to their own!
Fully explorable planets with dense forests, jungles, swamps, fauna, little villages with heavy weather like rsin storms and stuff.
Base building looking alike Starfield in terms of ease of use but tied to crafting and hauling. Base decor, crafting, professions etc
Then with big space station building for end game stuff. Also worm hunting as a kinda raid boss fight for epic loot (mats).
What are you talking about? It's mentioned at 20:30 in the official Star Citizen 1.0 video.
@3:50 talk about the first 5 systems.
So Stanton and Pyro, Nyx, Castra and Terra.