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New World: Aeternum Review | MMORPG.com

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edited November 8 in News & Features Discussion

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It's been almost a month since Amazon relaunched New World on PC, and for the first time on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series consoles. New World: Aeternum is the most accessible the MMO has ever been, but how does it hold over compared to its 2021 release, and is it worth your time?

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    I think that's a really fair review. I went back and looked at it when Aeternum launched and very much agree with most of what you say. I didn't play beyond a few days because I couldn't entice any of my group back.

    But someday I would go back again.
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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,582
    That's similar to how I feel about the game.
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  • GreatswordGreatsword Member RarePosts: 428
    We all want Amazon to treat this game like a subscription-style MMORPG.

    But I am afraid their shift from MMORPG to ARPG means they consider this game "finished" and all we get is Destiny2/Diablo4 style seasons. At best we might get another paid DLC or 2, but that's probably the extent of it.
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  • losthewarlosthewar Member UncommonPosts: 132
    This game was a blast in beta, then they changed it for all the beta cucks who are scared of pvp. Since then this game has become more and more like garbage. Amazon screwed this up for sure.
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  • StevonStevon Member UncommonPosts: 222
    This game was terrible in beta, then they changed it to address the desires of the real audience, those that care about the overall experience and a maturity of story and content. To their credit Amazon didn't listen to the PVP Cucks (who "lostthewar") who were scared of pve. Since then this game has become more and more mature and appealing to a mature gaming audience. Amazon fixed their initial mistakes for sure.
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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,837
    Since I own the game and Aeternum was a free update I decided to roll a new character on a cross play server and play through it again. The leveling experience from 1-65 is really good. You can do the entire revised story solo which was not the case in previous iterations. The addition of mounts and swimming is very welcome because it makes a lot of the back and forth a lot less tedious. If you're separated by a river you can now just swim across rather than having to go the long way around or risk drowning. They also drastically reduced fast travel fees so that it never was an issue even if your faction doesn't happen to own the area to which you are fast travelling. A part of this burden relief is due to the fact Azoth now drops off mobs pretty frequently. I was constantly at or near my cap. They also dropped the refresh time on your fast travel to your bound inn to 15 minutes. That used to be an hour, so you used it very carefully. Now you can use it all the time because by the time you go back to the inn, sell stuff, put stuff in storage, maybe level cooking a bit or some other crafting, figure out where you need to go next, travel there and start working on the next quest the timer is almost already expired.

    Weapon mastery is a bit faster now. I had both of my weapons maxed at 20 before I hit 60 (59 to be precise), and went ahead and swapped out for a 3rd weapon because why not? By the time I finished the main story I had the 3rd weapon up to level 18, so mastering new weapons especially in the higher level zones is pretty easy to do. The big change there is you get full weapon xp on which ever weapon is equipped when the mob dies regardless of how much damage you did with it. Your off weapon will get a small amount of xp, so you can still slowly level your off weapon without even bringing it out, but that method would take a very long time to max it. However you can get a mob down to 1% life and then switch to your off weapon to finish it and get max xp for the off weapon. This makes leveling the life staff (my 3rd weapon) very easy compared to before where it was super tedious to try and level a weapon meant for healing because you only get master xp for damage.

    The build I chose this time around was much more enjoyable as a primarily solo player. I used a focus tank build with heavy armor, flail + shield, and void gauntlet. On paper the build should suck but it was actually very good due to its survivability. I got through almost every soul trial on the first try. The only ones I didn't were due to not knowing the fight and getting stuck standing in some bad stuff that I didn't know was going to spawn. I finished the last soul trial on my first try against Artemis which on my previous character, which was a dex dps build, I could never complete because it was too hard. I had many times in the open world where I thought for sure I'd die, due to crazy overwhelming odds, but that build pulled through. At 65, I did try buying a light set of armor and doing Life Staff + Void Gauntlet, which is what your typical healer runs, and ran screaming back to my tank build (kept the gear though) because it was so squishy. Some of that is play style, though, because if I did more run and gun and dodge instead of trying to face tank stuff it would be more effective, but that would be a complete opposite play style to what I was used to and enjoyed.

    Anyhooo... The problem with the game is that there's just not much to end game. You can buy from the Trading Post gear up to 700 gear score. The max GS in the game is 725. There's dungeons and open world bosses to do. There's also PvP. Beyond that you can level up your riding, and your trade skills. Once you run through all that you've kinda won the game.

    Still as a primarily solo player I feel like I got my money's worth. If you do nothing but go through the solo campaign, it's way more content than a lot of single player games which cost as much or more. You can't really impugn the monetization. I hope they put more end game in for solo players. This is when someone comes in and says "but it's an MMO", and that's when I point out they rebranded it as an action RPG, so I get your point, but also if AGS is going to call this an ARPG they need to refactor it away from big group MMO requirements to progress your character.

    I agree with the review score.

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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 408
    Good review. Will players stay? Does AGS have something in store to keep them around? Why isn't there a roadmap? How long to go without new content? All these things are questions many players like myself (who have played and supported NW) ask. I was in alpha. I have seen it all and want the game to succeed more than anything but that lack of content brick wall hits hard every single time.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423
    Can I just say that PvP gamers are not "scared" of PvE. :)
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Scot said:
    Can I just say that PvP gamers are not "scared" of PvE. :)
    Some are.  It’s why I hate generalizations.  We don’t fit neatly into buckets.  I can tell you though that there absolutely exists a segment of PvP players that look at the need to PvE like I would look if I stuck my hand into a bowl of spiders.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,933
    Scot said:
    Can I just say that PvP gamers are not "scared" of PvE. :)

    There are definitely pvp players who find it dull/boring and "what's the point." They sort of have a point with how current npc combatants work as they are really set to be defeated.
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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421
    This review would be easy for me just by asking the basic questions.

    What does it off that no other game does?

    Does it do anything better than other games do it?

    Is there something in the game artistically that I have never seen before?

    Is there an exciting class I have never played before?

    Is there some fantasy element that is out of this world?


    Yep, the game gets a simple rating of why was it made from me.

  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,005
    It's one of the better MMOs out there. Yes yes I know the bar is low, but it has a really solid gameplay loop and there's a lot to do.
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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421


    It's one of the better MMOs out there. Yes yes I know the bar is low, but it has a really solid gameplay loop and there's a lot to do.



    That is an issue for me. I would rather roam a world endlessly instead of doing a loop to tedium.
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,837






    It's one of the better MMOs out there. Yes yes I know the bar is low, but it has a really solid gameplay loop and there's a lot to do.






    That is an issue for me. I would rather roam a world endlessly instead of doing a loop to tedium.



    So you would rather play a game with a shit gameplay loop. Got it. I mean you should be very satisfied. Lots of shitty MMO's out there.
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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,582
    We all want Amazon to treat this game like a subscription-style MMORPG.

    But I am afraid their shift from MMORPG to ARPG means they consider this game "finished" and all we get is Destiny2/Diablo4 style seasons. At best we might get another paid DLC or 2, but that's probably the extent of it.
    Why would anyone expect a b2p game to be treated as a subscription-based MMORPG. If you want that play a MMORPG that offers subscriptions.

    NW:A is exactly as much MMORPG and ARPG as NW was so there is no reason for any of their plans to be disrupted by the small changes between them.
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,582
    This review would be easy for me just by asking the basic questions.

    What does it off that no other game does?

    Does it do anything better than other games do it?

    Is there something in the game artistically that I have never seen before?

    Is there an exciting class I have never played before?

    Is there some fantasy element that is out of this world?


    Yep, the game gets a simple rating of why was it made from me.


    It offers an atypical setting for a fantasy MMORPG, with aspects from the Age of Sail including the addition of primitive firearms.

    Exploration is better than I'm seen in many games, facilitated by the ability to climb up much of the terrain. Sometimes I find things tucked away in a small cave or the like  when I'm traversing elevated areas.

    I don't know what you've seen before so couldn't say. A lot of the gear is historical in style, suited to what one would expect from the time period the game is associating itself so that may qualify is something new, or at least novel.

    The classes mean little. Most important is the differing buffs to non-combat skills they provide. They all have particular weapons and armour but that can all be swapped out early in play so has no lingering significance.

    There are plenty of fantasy elements. The only thing that may be out of this world is the corruption theme that it has through much of the story depending how well the nuances of this repetition of that appeal to you.
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,582


    It's one of the better MMOs out there. Yes yes I know the bar is low, but it has a really solid gameplay loop and there's a lot to do.



    That is an issue for me. I would rather roam a world endlessly instead of doing a loop to tedium.

    Then do that. Just because a loop exists doesn't mean you have to endlessly walk that circle.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423
    edited November 9
    Sovrath said:
    Scot said:
    Can I just say that PvP gamers are not "scared" of PvE. :)

    There are definitely pvp players who find it dull/boring and "what's the point." They sort of have a point with how current npc combatants work as they are really set to be defeated.
    I assume they don't play solo games then? My point was they are not "scared" of PvE, that exaggeration was a bit much for me. But sure even gamers who are only here for PvE will talk about the issues with mob AI.

    Might I suggest that has to do with difficulty, even one poorly scripted NPC can be a challenge, if it all seems a walk over then they really are "set up to be defeated". 
  • TalraekkTalraekk Member UncommonPosts: 297
    I hate most ftp conversions. Rift was my biggest complaint, and New world followed step for step in their print. I seriously don't know how you can make graphics worse. In my eyes the graphics are the graphics, you can toggle them lower or higher, but to me, it's impossible to detract from already good graphics.
    I've played... a tiny bit since the (relaunch) but cannot get past the visuals. I mean, maybe it's because they were so good before. Either way, the game was barely worth playing, kill most of my impetus to play, I'm gone.......
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Decent review, would have liked to learn a bit more about the crafting loop and whether it had been made more relevant outside of making endgame gear.

    I recall leveling my skills to max level but almost always wearing gear someone else made or found which I purchased from the store.


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  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,315
    I'll be the voice of dissent, but only partially.


    For people who are new to the game and playing on a console, probably a fair score. But when one of the cons you mention is "not a lot for enfranchised PC players" that tells a very different story.

    I gave it a whirl, leveled a new character to 60, and there really wasn't anything different than when I put 600+ hours into it before, and frankly I was fairly disappointed. That's not saying the game is "the same", but the changes that were made were, in my mind not a net positive. The new open PvP zone, just stupid, and there isn't much enthusiasm about it, in fact it started out taking people away from factional PvP across other zones while people were giving it a shot, and then on the server I was playing on, it died pretty quickly when most folks came to the conclusion that it was pretty dumb.


    If you have already played it, already been thru the grind, already leveled up crafting skills, and experienced the game, I just don't see the hook to go back. I put in a little over 55 hours this time, and population felt a bit down, and of the 8 people I knew who came back, 5 had already bailed on the game.

    There really just isn't a reason to stay and play. For someone who is coming back, I would have given the game about a 5 on the 1-10 scale. That's not knocking it, just a reality that it's fresh coat of paint, that offers almost nothing to PC players. The changes were really to bring the game to the console audience, and I understand that business decision, even if it leaves next to nothing for someone who did it already.

    All that said, and baked into it, my score would have been the result of having spent that many hours in it before. For someone who is trying it for the first time, I'd think they have hundreds of hours of content, exploration, crafting, and combat to try and enjoy. For them I can totally see a higher grade, because there is much more to do. That said, definitely a cap (for me at least) on what the game's content brings, and how much it offers.

    Game really should have a couple of scores to be fair, one for console (for the entirely new audience) and one for returning PC players who were "content complete" and hoped for something new or even worthwhile to experience. Nostalgia only goes so far.
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  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,315

    Kyleran said:

    Decent review, would have liked to learn a bit more about the crafting loop and whether it had been made more relevant outside of making endgame gear.

    I recall leveling my skills to max level but almost always wearing gear someone else made or found which I purchased from the store.






    It really wasn't that useful as I was leveling. Reason being was I would outpace the crafting skill needed for certain items even while just gathering materials and "playing". I was able to contribute some items to lower level players, and vice versa. At level 25 in the game, I wasn't really able to create level appropriate gear. If I had completely stopped doing anything other than gathering, then it would have been possible.

    Endgame is where is always catches up, and seems to level out.
    Kyleran
  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,205
    I got bored this week and took the plunge and bought it (Series X); so far it's enjoyable. I don't think it will be a "forever" game for me, but I defiantly think I'll get my money's worth. I'm enjoying running around and taking my time gathering/crafting and doing all the side quests. The story is interesting, but not groundbreaking, the voice acting is average/passable, the armor designs are nice, but a lot of NPCs look weird.

    I don't get the complaints about graphics, running quality mode on Series X, I've been thoroughly impressed with the design and graphics of the world and early on I'm already seeing some enjoyable variety to the areas.
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  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,205
    I've been playing as a new player on PC for a couple of weeks now and so far I'm loving it. I'm not in any rush, I go very slow like I do in most games, with no rush to get to end game. As a single player game with optional grouping and coming from a new player perspective, I would give it an 8.5 out of 10. It feels more interesting to me than Lord of the Rings Online was (my last MMO), so this having a lower score doesn't seem right to me (but that's just my opinion). It really is a beautiful world, love the crafting, combat is more fun than ESO, story is OK, teamed up with a few people a couple of times, If I get 60 or so hours which I'm sure I will, probably over 100, then to me it was well worth the money. Hopefully eventually they will share a roadmap. Until then, I'm also busy playing the Mass Effect Legendary games which I bought for $9 on steam and I never played those either. Also thinking about replaying BG3....and I'm soon going to play Elden Ring on PC since I didn't play that either...once I mod it to make it a little easier since I don't play souls like games often.

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