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The Ongoing Saga of NCsoft's Legal Actions: Lineage 2M vs ArcheAge WAR | MMORPG.com

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edited November 16 in News & Features Discussion

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NCsoft's lawsuits against rivals like Kakao Games spark debate over intellectual property and innovation in gaming.

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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,489
    This is just NCsoft being NCsoft at this point; if they had it their way, they'd make it so no other game development studios were allowed to create anything- it's clear that in this specific market NCsoft just doesn't want to have to deal with competition.
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  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,347
    Still haven't forgiven them for canceling City of Heroes and Wildstar.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Alverant said:
    Still haven't forgiven them for canceling City of Heroes and Wildstar.

    You can play City of Heroes right now. Go nuts.
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  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,347

    Sovrath said:


    Alverant said:

    Still haven't forgiven them for canceling City of Heroes and Wildstar.



    You can play City of Heroes right now. Go nuts.


    I do. It doesn't change that they canceled it. I donate to keep it going but every month it seems to take longer to get the minimum to keep it going.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Alverant said:

    Sovrath said:


    Alverant said:

    Still haven't forgiven them for canceling City of Heroes and Wildstar.



    You can play City of Heroes right now. Go nuts.


    I do. It doesn't change that they canceled it. I donate to keep it going but every month it seems to take longer to get the minimum to keep it going.
    The thing is that game companies don’t want to close their games. At all.

    They want them to be successful.

    They close them because the cost of keeping them open doesn’t financially make sense.

    And As NC Soft is a publicly traded company they have to make games and make money for their investors.

     They aren’t going to keep games open when that money might be used for more lucrative projects.


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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    edited November 18

    Sovrath said:


    Alverant said:



    Sovrath said:




    Alverant said:


    Still haven't forgiven them for canceling City of Heroes and Wildstar.





    You can play City of Heroes right now. Go nuts.




    I do. It doesn't change that they canceled it. I donate to keep it going but every month it seems to take longer to get the minimum to keep it going.


    The thing is that game companies don’t want to close their games. At all.

    They want them to be successful.

    They close them because the cost of keeping them open doesn’t financially make sense.

    And As NC Soft is a publicly traded company they have to make games and make money for their investors.

     They aren’t going to keep games open when that money might be used for more lucrative projects.





    Yes but when you take on an acquisition that services customers you should have considered if it was sustainable otherwise why take it? I agree that they maybe felt they had no choice but I also think the attitude is, 'well, worse comes to worse we close down competition to our MMOs by taking it in house. If it has to close we have still removed the competition.'

    It would be interesting to know if any of the MMOs they took over are still running and if not how long did they all last for?
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Let.

    Them.

    Fight.
    KyleranScot
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Scot said:

    Sovrath said:


    Alverant said:



    Sovrath said:




    Alverant said:


    Still haven't forgiven them for canceling City of Heroes and Wildstar.





    You can play City of Heroes right now. Go nuts.




    I do. It doesn't change that they canceled it. I donate to keep it going but every month it seems to take longer to get the minimum to keep it going.


    The thing is that game companies don’t want to close their games. At all.

    They want them to be successful.

    They close them because the cost of keeping them open doesn’t financially make sense.

    And As NC Soft is a publicly traded company they have to make games and make money for their investors.

     They aren’t going to keep games open when that money might be used for more lucrative projects.





    Yes but when you take on an acquisition that services customers you should have considered if it was sustainable otherwise why take it? I agree that they maybe felt they had no choice but I also think the attitude is, 'well, worse comes to worse we close down competition to our MMOs by taking it in house. If it has to close we have still removed the competition.'

    It would be interesting to know if any of the MMOs they took over are still running and if not how long did they all last for?
    “Some “ players complain when game companies don’t take a chance. So they sometimes do and sometimes it doesn’t work out.

    Do you really believe, for a moment they developed City of Heroes knowing they would close it?

    Not sure what you mean by “removing the competition? 
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  • RaekonRaekon Member UncommonPosts: 532
    Class switching systems has existed like forever in several single player RPGs as also MMOs and Online RPGs.
    It's stupid to do as if it's something totally new or invented by NCSoft.
    Except if they did it in a particular specific way and in Archage War it is a direct copy of it, I don't see the point on fighting about it.
    Also weapons systems, group mechanics and practically almost everything else are common stuff we can find in many various MMOs, Online RPGs and Offline Co-Op or Single Player RPGs aswell.

    These are mostly basic systems used by everyone and their grandma and almost no one reinvents the wheel to change them since they always have been working.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    edited November 19
    Sovrath said:
    “Some “ players complain when game companies don’t take a chance. So they sometimes do and sometimes it doesn’t work out.

    Do you really believe, for a moment they developed City of Heroes knowing they would close it?

    Not sure what you mean by “removing the competition? 
    Part of the business case could be that in the worst case scenario, that they ended up closing CoH, a big name competitor had been removed from the market. But sure they did not buy it with that intention.

    Back to by original question, after some investigating it seems Lineage and GW2 are the two MMOs NCsoft has bought and continues to develop. So to be fair their record is a mixed bag.
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