This article is written by someone that doesn't experience motion sickness
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I am surely one of the people who can get motion sickness from games, but it's mostly related to settings. Low FOV, Motion Blur, bad FPS are some of the things that would cause it. Being tired is also increases the chance of getting motion sick.
But the best MMORPG, Darkfall Online, had first person only. Darkfall Unholy Wars introduced 3rd person, but it surely wasn't the same thing.
As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Sure, and I hated them. I'm not giving a camera perspective/genre credit from going from a F to a C- in my books.
Those who prefer MMORPG's in third tend to like to look at their toons, there is a better 360 view but if everyone is first it is an even playing field.
If you have both, then those using first are at a disadvantage in my eyes because of the restricted view. There may be an exception here for MMOs with proper shooting and/or one that is ship based, they might be better in first.
I don't mind either but games have become all about expectation so if you don't have third I think the game will take a hit when it comes to players wanting to buy/play. Which is a shame, we need diversity in gaming, not one size suits all.
As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Sure, and I hated them. I'm not giving a camera perspective/genre credit from going from a F to a C- in my books.
Same. Wolfenstein was the worst. For me its something to do with the game and the engine and the settings. For example, I have never gotten sick in a first person game that Blizzard or Bethesda has released. Not that I can do marathon sessions but no issues with their games. Other game companies, especially like the Half-Life, Portal, all those games, cannot even try it. Trust me, its not like I want to get motion sick from them. I am fine in Division I but Division 2 triggers it. It could be other factors as well like age or stress or maybe even high blood pressure. Who knows but first person vs. 3rd person is a debate for me and something I have to take into consideration. And if a game does not have a motion blur setting (Enshrouded for example), even in 3rd person, its an immediate no.
It's interesting how many responses to this are people that get motion sick with first person games. I don't think I know that many people at all who have that problem.
Well, I'm ANOTHER one. There are plenty of people who get nauseous trying to play 1st person games. The tiny view is unnatural, the movement isn't smooth enough, and if you try to stretch FoB to make it wider, it just creates distortions and doesn't help.
Not sure how many people you know, but many people have this issue.
I think it has more to do with the average age of the forum probably.
Most likely they have shitty monitors with low refresh rate / frames.
I find it hard there's gamers here who didn't got hooked playing some Wolfenstein, D00M, Quake, Half Life, Tribes, Unreal ??
Anyome growing up playing those fast paced fps games didn't suffer motion sickness then and most likely doesn't now.
Maybe they nolifed Ultima and ignored the FPS craze and are now paying for that sin
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Motion sickness is worse when the game looks more realistic/smoother. It occurs because the visual input to your brain makes it think you should be moving, but that doesn't match with what your sense of equilibrium is reporting. This is interpreted as a symptom of poisoning, so your body reacts by trying to vomit.
In the few third-person games that cause motion sickness for me, I can sometimes solve the problem by capping the FPS at 30.
As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Telling someone who has a problem that they are wrong about having the problem is the very epitome of tone-deaf.
Those who prefer MMORPG's in third tend to like to look at their toons, there is a better 360 view but if everyone is first it is an even playing field.
If you have both, then those using first are at a disadvantage in my eyes because of the restricted view. There may be an exception here for MMOs with proper shooting and/or one that is ship based, they might be better in first.
I don't mind either but games have become all about expectation so if you don't have third I think the game will take a hit when it comes to players wanting to buy/play. Which is a shame, we need diversity in gaming, not one size suits all.
That's how Star Citizen handles it:
It works well as while it's meant to be played in 1st Person View (that's the only way to have a UI) it doesn't lock the player to it. So we can switch to 3rd person view and use the free camera /w photomode when you want and pre-set custom view modes angles for ship play or fps play.
As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Like I said before you won't know because you never suffered from it. Things did indeed change when Half Life was released FOV was maximum 90 but set to 70 by default. It was fairly common then when I played it and found it bad because it was set so low. However 90 wasn't enough for me either. Later on you had mods that can change a lot of games to 100-120 which helped me a lot.
Of course you know nothing about the complaints because it never affected you so why would you search anything to solve that problem.
Do you honestly think every Tom, Dick and Harry, Mary , Jane and Jill goes and complains on the internet or do they just shelf the game. Your lack of awareness about an issue isn't gospel.
Just go to any Steam game that is first person and search for motion sickness and there will be threads there.
As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Telling someone who has a problem that they are wrong about having the problem is the very epitome of tone-deaf.
I never said they were wrong but I was curious if they had ever played the earlier games.
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I have been playing games for a long time and yes every early first person game made me ill. Some like Half Life was so bad I was throwing up. Initially I didn't even understand what was wrong and thought I ate something bad. However I wised up when my friend said the same thing. I just avoided them after that. It was only after they have improved things for people who have these problems have I started playing them.
As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Of course you know nothing about the complaints because it never affected you so why would you search anything to solve that problem.
Was a simple question. Not everything is an attack. Sheesh!
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It's annoying when uninformed people think others are making up their problems and just because they never had an issue no one can have it. So don't assume your lack of exposure to a problem makes it not a problem for others.
It's annoying when uninformed people think others are making up their problems and just because they never had an issue no one can have it. So don't assume your lack of exposure to a problem makes it not a problem for others.
Never assumed anything. what part of ‘it was a simple question’ do you not understand.
And here’s a tip, if you think someone doesn’t get an issue you are experiencing you can simply inform them it’s really a thing without the salt and vinegar. Again, not everything is an attack. Especially when it is this format only allows for words with no emotion or sense of intent.
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As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Old games like the original Quake, Tribes, Unreal Tournament never made me sick, but some of these high poly games these days do. Most likely because you had your gun on screen at all times and the screen was CRT.
Either way nothing will ever convince me that FPS MMO is superior to 3rd person. Like someone stated you can't even see you character, so what is the point of game skins for weapons and armor when you can't even see it yourself?
As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Old games like the original Quake, Tribes, Unreal Tournament never made me sick, but some of these high poly games these days do. Most likely because you had your gun on screen at all times and the screen was CRT.
Either way nothing will ever convince me that FPS MMO is superior to 3rd person. Like someone stated you can't even see you character, so what is the point of game skins for weapons and armor when you can't even see it yourself?
I was wondering if newer games exacerbated the problem.
The older games you mentioned never gave me problems but I’ve noticed that sometimes with newer games I need to turn down the mouse sensitivity or else I feel some discomfort. For me that always fixes it.
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As babunix has said, have the people complaining about 1st person ever played any of the shooters from the early days? Maybe they haven’t? But if they did then I find it hard to believe that today’s games would give you trouble unless of course something changed since then.
Telling someone who has a problem that they are wrong about having the problem is the very epitome of tone-deaf.
I never said they were wrong but I was curious if they had ever played the earlier games.
Yeah, early first person games made me want to throw up as well, not just modern titles. Back when I was a teenager, I've played titles like duke nukem 3d, doom, counter strike, Team fortress to name a few, and the nauseating experience kicks in after like 15 mins of gaming.
I love first person games, but i can only harness that much focus and energy before my body says, that's enough.
Nothing will make me pass on a game faster than "First-person Only". I still keep checking in on Cyberpunk every time they release an update, just to see if they added a Third person option yet.
I believe, whole heartedly, that the only reason Devs go first person only, is to save the dev time, money, and complex work required to create all of the animations needed for third person. Just laziness in my opinion.
It's annoying when uninformed people think others are making up their problems and just because they never had an issue no one can have it. So don't assume your lack of exposure to a problem makes it not a problem for others.
Never assumed anything. what part of ‘it was a simple question’ do you not understand.
And here’s a tip, if you think someone doesn’t get an issue you are experiencing you can simply inform them it’s really a thing without the salt and vinegar. Again, not everything is an attack. Especially when it is this format only allows for words with no emotion or sense of intent.
I already explained it on page one but you didn't read it. I even had links in it. So how am I supposed to know that you didn't read the thread. I just assumed you were being obtuse after I had explained it.
Nothing will make me pass on a game faster than "First-person Only". I still keep checking in on Cyberpunk every time they release an update, just to see if they added a Third person option yet.
I believe, whole heartedly, that the only reason Devs go first person only, is to save the dev time, money, and complex work required to create all of the animations needed for third person. Just laziness in my opinion.
I solved the issue where this chap suggested the settings for people with motion sickness in Cyberpunk 2077
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or also doesnt understand how people like to cosplay(insert proper word) their character in mmorpg's , and that is how companies make money from cash shops. people like to go after sets of armor for stats and ALSO LOOKS/STYLE lol. i know some guys have told me they like to play female characters ,well i dont have to finish this statement lol we all know character development has come a long way
But the best MMORPG, Darkfall Online, had first person only. Darkfall Unholy Wars introduced 3rd person, but it surely wasn't the same thing.
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If you have both, then those using first are at a disadvantage in my eyes because of the restricted view. There may be an exception here for MMOs with proper shooting and/or one that is ship based, they might be better in first.
I don't mind either but games have become all about expectation so if you don't have third I think the game will take a hit when it comes to players wanting to buy/play. Which is a shame, we need diversity in gaming, not one size suits all.
I'm betting you got ganked from behind a lot.
Telling someone who has a problem that they are wrong about having the problem is the very epitome of tone-deaf.
It works well as while it's meant to be played in 1st Person View (that's the only way to have a UI) it doesn't lock the player to it. So we can switch to 3rd person view and use the free camera /w photomode when you want and pre-set custom view modes angles for ship play or fps play.
Of course you know nothing about the complaints because it never affected you so why would you search anything to solve that problem.
https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/playing-half-life-makes-me-physically-sick-no-joke.651466/
Do you honestly think every Tom, Dick and Harry, Mary , Jane and Jill goes and complains on the internet or do they just shelf the game. Your lack of awareness about an issue isn't gospel.
Just go to any Steam game that is first person and search for motion sickness and there will be threads there.
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
And here’s a tip, if you think someone doesn’t get an issue you are experiencing you can simply inform them it’s really a thing without the salt and vinegar. Again, not everything is an attack. Especially when it is this format only allows for words with no emotion or sense of intent.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
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Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
The older games you mentioned never gave me problems but I’ve noticed that sometimes with newer games I need to turn down the mouse sensitivity or else I feel some discomfort. For me that always fixes it.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I believe, whole heartedly, that the only reason Devs go first person only, is to save the dev time, money, and complex work required to create all of the animations needed for third person. Just laziness in my opinion.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kanmhv/cyberpunk_2077_alleviating_motion_sickness_via/
Regardless, perspective should be an option, like in, idk, TES.