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SOE and Gods and Heroes
Fenrir767
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Just thought I should get this out there. SOE is not in anyway involved in Gods and Heroes development CS or anything they are just marketing the game and burning the cds that is all. I'm quite glad since I hate SOE after SWG and Gods and Heroes is looking sweet.
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hercules - It won't.
SOE isn't picking up Gods & Heroes. It is printing the boxes and CDs, shipping units to stores, and marketing.
That's it. SOE has far less to do with Gods & Heroes than it does with Vanguard. PE has 100% creative control of the product and will be handling customer service, billing, and maintenance of their own servers.
Basically, it costs a lot of money to set up deals with CD and box manufacturers as well as game distributors. SOE already has these connections with manufacturers and retailers, so they can provide these services at a lower cost than what PE could get on their own. It also works out for SOE because they can get their name associated with a quality product.
Never say never.Early days to know.But honestly would it not be great to have gods and heroes on the all access?EQ2,G&H,vanguard etc all on one pricing.
The marketing for that is really outstanding .
Careless if SoE has 100 or zero percent say in the game running but i love to see it be in the all access plan for sure and anyone who actually thinks about it would love the deal too.
hercules - I had dinner with Stieg Hedlund, the lead designer of Diablo II, and the lead designer for Gods & Heroes during E3.
The connection with SOE was something we discussed. They have no more involvement with the game than Microsoft has with Criterion when Microsoft publishes Burnout Revenge. All they are doing is printing the CDs and the boxes and putting them on shelves.
Take that as you will, but seriously, SOE has VERY little involvement. . . and my impression is that Perpetual Entertainment is getting a great deal on this because SOE wants to be associated with a product that is successful to improve their terrible image, and they know that betting on Stieg will pay.
Vyava - Have you watched the videos? Good lord woman, have you ever seen a dwarf-thingie wail on someone like that? (I saw the Daedylus wailing on someone and was sold instantly).
Just rewatched the 4 on the homepage. Meh, just looks a lot like thigns I have played on consoles. But, I have to admit I read a lot of retranslated myths and such and a TON of things in the videos irk me and probably killing any enthusiam there...
Romans with Greek versions of the gods, titans ><
Spanish swords (can tell by the width) and Celtic axe heads >< there is more, but best stop now.
It doesn't look bad, just eh to me. But I am stickler for the little things like that since these online games are almost never the same in any other area after a year.
Well auto assault did well on last E3 and those that play it all say how good it is(including me).Guess what it is still on low low population!
You speak as if success is guaranteed for this game .It is not.
I find a good measure i used for last 2 years was at work.Many are gamers mostly very casual ones.I bring up the topic of a mmorpg and see how many heard of it.2 mmorpg were well heard about WoW and DDO.
Now WoW did very well ofc.DDO depite all the crappy reviews and it been basically crappy still was number 1 seller in uk for weeks on some retailers.Yes it may have not retained many but it sold coipes.
AA on other hand despite all sold very little and ingame population is the testimony of it.
No one at my work place has heard of G&H !All access will make it known to hundreds of thousands easily.
I think they should consider all access and discuss a share in it as it will help the game.With EQ series already having hundreds of thousands of subs ,vanguard coming in.Well there u go do the maths.
Erm i played EQ1 and EQ2 so have dealt with SoE for years now and never had a billing issue.Also when i cancel its one of the easiest process i ever done.
So how is that a problem?
Actually, SOE has literally NOTHING to do with this game.
It is Sony Platform Publishing, a different division of Sony, that will be taking care of the distribution and publishing.
Edit: It appears I am mistaken, as Sony Platform Publishing is apparently a division of SOE.
Holy jesus, they have a lot of companies.
But anyways, it is just a label, and they have zero creative control.
Nuff said.
CSR has been on the dead side for years now across the board.Last time i recall any CSR worth praising was AC2.
I had horrible CSR in WoW for instance where it took an average of over 3 days to get an answer and it was almost always some automated one.
Zero CSR from games like horizons.I got answered in DAoC in under 24 hrs and this always made matteres worse because i was directed to the help page on the website!
SoE CSR i had stupid answers given to me many times.Yet 2 occasions stick in my mind where i got proper help ingame and within 24 hrs which was both in EQ2(a SoE game).
So why you think here will have any descent CSR like we enjoyed in early mmorpg days i dunno.All the companies now fall on CSR and i have had much worse experience with other companies then SoE.
I'm glad that it's not on the all access station. That means SOE will have more involvement in this game that just makin' some boxes and cds. It means you would have to concede Customer Service as well because of billing issues. And we all know that SOE fails miserably in that category. I'm not guaranteein' success, but I do think this game will do quite well. My reasoning is that the MMO market is ready for a change.
I wouldn't take hercules too seriously. . . He seems oblivious to facts. Sony will ONLY be printing the CDs. The game will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be a Station game because Sony does not own any part of Gods & Heroes, and Perpetual Entertainment is doing 100% of the game servers, billing service, and customer service. PE would not go to all the trouble of paying for those things and then simply fold them up to sell out to SOE.
The deal they have made with Sony Platform Publishing is to have them print the CDs, the boxes, and complete in-store marketing that goes with the boxes.
The only way that this game might end up as a Station Access game is the same way that other games might find themselves there. . . If they are complete and utter failures. But, if that is the case, then none of us should care. I mean, how many people cried about Matrix Online going to SOE. It's still utter trash wherever you play it.
I'm glad that it's not on the all access station. That means SOE will have more involvement in this game that just makin' some boxes and cds. It means you would have to concede Customer Service as well because of billing issues. And we all know that SOE fails miserably in that category. I'm not guaranteein' success, but I do think this game will do quite well. My reasoning is that the MMO market is ready for a change.
I wouldn't take hercules too seriously. . . He seems oblivious to facts. Sony will ONLY be printing the CDs. The game will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be a Station game because Sony does not own any part of Gods & Heroes, and Perpetual Entertainment is doing 100% of the game servers, billing service, and customer service. PE would not go to all the trouble of paying for those things and then simply fold them up to sell out to SOE.
The deal they have made with Sony Platform Publishing is to have them print the CDs, the boxes, and complete in-store marketing that goes with the boxes.
The only way that this game might end up as a Station Access game is the same way that other games might find themselves there. . . If they are complete and utter failures. But, if that is the case, then none of us should care. I mean, how many people cried about Matrix Online going to SOE. It's still utter trash wherever you play it.
Well first if u even bothered to read thru the posts i was stating why it will help G&H be more successful as part of the all access.
I never said it will be .
Also might i remind you 2 of the top 10 highest grossing mmorpg in history belongs to SoE all access - EQ1 and EQ2.The only other mmorpg to have more subs then this 2 are lineage 1 and lineage 2,FFXI and WoW.
And EQ2 went straight from release to all access.EQ1 was a founding member of all access.Try get your facts right.
So utter failures?I think a big no!
It'd be the same thing, just for different people at that point since some of us have been burned pretty badly by NCSoft as well LOL. No matter what company you use for publishing, someone isn't going to be happy unless they do it themselves.
If you really think about it though, why would you want to try and force a company to publish their own game? Personally, I'd rather have that money go towards development.
I don't understand MMORPG. . . they put up a thread to centralize all the bitching about SOE. . . but they won't close the others.
-----Zero Punctuation Eve Online Review-----
As compared to the "extremely" active G&H forum?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?