Originally posted by Ulujain Unbelievable. That is too funny. Sadly, people will probably lose their jobs and livelihood over this launch.
That's right but that's just how the world works. Do a bad job and you will be fired. Do a good job and you will be rewarded.
Gamedevelopers found out after Ultima Online and Everquest 1 that this market is HUGE and very profitable if they maded a good game. The gamingindustry sells for more than the entire Movieindustry worldwide.
Many tries to jump into the que and get a part of the cake and many fails.
Look how many titles that has been utterly crap or simply cancelled. Shadowbane/Horizons/Neocron was totally crap and how many games have been cancelled? UO II,Dragon empires,UxO,Mythica is just some i can remember.
It's only fair that some companies goes bankrupt. That will hopefully make gamedevelopers think twice before releasing unfinished games. Sadly it looks like Farlan didn't learn anything at all.
So it looks like they just have to pay the price. They can still get it right but oh boy it takes a lot of work.
Originally posted by Ulujain Unbelievable. That is too funny. Sadly, people will probably lose their jobs and livelihood over this launch.
And honestly, that is a shame. I don't wish financial hardship on anyone. Hopefully these guys will learn from their mistakes and be able to craft a better product next time.
But if I was a manager at a McDonalds, and one of the grill cooks kept throwing lettuce and uncooked meat in the box instead of a decent Big Mac, I'd have to can his ass. Only in the games industry is an incomplete product rewarded monetarily. We have to break that chain somehow.
Originally posted by virtuella Originally posted by Ulujain Unbelievable. That is too funny. Sadly, people will probably lose their jobs and livelihood over this launch.
That's right but that's just how the world works. Do a bad job and you will be fired. Do a good job and you will be rewarded.
Gamedevelopers found out after Ultima Online and Everquest 1 that this market is HUGE and very profitable if they maded a good game. The gamingindustry sells for more than the entire Movieindustry worldwide.
Many tries to jump into the que and get a part of the cake and many fails.
Look how many titles that has been utterly crap or simply cancelled. Shadowbane/Horizons/Neocron was totally crap and how many games have been cancelled? UO II,Dragon empires,UxO,Mythica is just some i can remember.
It's only fair that some companies goes bankrupt. That will hopefully make gamedevelopers think twice before releasing unfinished games. Sadly it looks like Farlan didn't learn anything at all.
So it looks like they just have to pay the price. They can still get it right but oh boy it takes a lot of work.
Shadowbane and Horizons are still going with small niches and your opinion of how good/bad they were are is just that, your opinion. I personally liked HZ's concept they only issue i had was perfomance wise.
Dragon empires and Mythica never even made to launch dragon empires was pulled during Beta which i applaud since they realised the code was up to the performance standards they want (although I wish that they had gone ahead), Mythica was cancelled very early I doubt it even made it to Alpha.
Summary if you are going to group things together to prove a point at least try to group like with like.
I bet you're going to put WoW out there as the perfect game ? , if so you weren't around post launch and obviously have a blind eye turned to the major issues in that game , poor server performance, bad customer support, very sub par pvp and no really idea of balance that still exist to this date. I will say wows concept is good but since then it has gone downhill (and i played wow for over year before giving up on it).
Originally posted by tetsul Well, the site says the first patch is out today. The first patch... 4 days BEFORE official release day. This game gets weirder by the day.
here we go again. May 30th is the release day. There was to be only a open to all on June 5th. It would appear however that since the lousy reviews from the Pioneers, they have changed the "official" release day to June 5th. So they will go with whatever works better in their favor. If the reviews are the same on the 5th, they will then change the release date to the next patch or make up some excuse or another.
According to allllll that was stated and promised to the Pioneers, May 30th WAS the official release day. It has only changed , yet I have not an "official" announcement of the 5th, in the last 24 hours to reflect june 5th as the official.
So they sidestep the lousy launch with a few more days time. Whats it gonna be when its the same crap on 5th?
Oh ok then, they don't even have a normal release date. Maybe weirder by the day was giving too much time, maybe hour. Now that's a poll worth making: What will the lame excuse be on June 5th? Other mmorphs had problems, unexpected number of people, extended release date again...
I have been using the name "Kilim" since I made a Chaotic Neutral Dwarf BattleRager when I was in HS playing AD&D 2nd Edition. (It was at least 10 years ago, maybe longer) Did it with a random character generator using Dice lol.
I have also used the name "Kilim" in every MMORPG I have ever been in.
Oh, he's just a social retard who is constantly ridiculed any time he posts on the forums. Reason I asked is cos he has/had the same (or simular) quote under his avatar, so thought maybe it was him trying to reinvent himself under a new name. Obviously not though, so disregard and on with the show!
So, back to that D&L bashing...
"(The) Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude." - George W Bush. Oh. My. God.
Speaking only from what I've seen and read, no first hand experience with the game.
I feel sorry for the DnL devs and am not particularly found of rubbing it in people's faces. They seemed like the sort who wanted to make a game for gamers, not a game to get filthy rich. Like you've said earlier in this thread, people will be losing their livelyhood and it's for sure that there's been alot of time, money and effort put into this project, but they should have had the good sense to see their own shortcomings if it's as bad as it's made out to be.
On the bright side, I guess Anarchy Online lost the crown of Worst MMO Launch Ever. Edit: Oh? It hasn't been officially released yet? :P Ah well, time will tell.
Originally posted by AranStormah Speaking only from what I've seen and read, no first hand experience with the game. I feel sorry for the DnL devs and am not particularly found of rubbing it in people's faces. Like you've said earlier in this thread, people will be losing their livelyhood and it's for sure that there's been alot of time, money and effort put into this project, but they should have had the good sense to see their own shortcomings. On the bright side, I guess Anarchy Online lost the crown of Worst MMO Launch Ever.
Hard to feel sorry when the entire premise was built on a foundation of lies and bs. No solid ground. They lose their livelihood when they lose their integrity.
got to do a whole 'nother one Virtuella with the griffon release....this time seems more ppl crashing and disconnections -- guess thats cuz there is more ppl huh?
Worst piece of crap ever. Nothing works. My avatar disappears after I take about 30 steps. No one is doing anything but standing around complaining, and darks are in the light newbie area slaughtering people as soon as they spawn(and vice versa). It looks like garbage, runs like garbage, and there is absolutely nothing to do besides one quest. If you find a level 1 mob, you can't kill it in most cases. I'm not talking difficult- I like difficult- I'm talking just stupid. Combat and animations are so slow and clunky it's like playing EQII on an old Pentium 2. Horizons at launch looked brilliant next to this....thing.
SoG was light years better than this pile. Time to uninstall and forget I paid 40 bucks for a steaming lump of fecal matter.
Originally posted by Gules_Aspen Just got in on my Griffon account today. Worst piece of crap ever. Nothing works. My avatar disappears after I take about 30 steps. No one is doing anything but standing around complaining, and darks are in the light newbie area slaughtering people as soon as they spawn(and vice versa). It looks like garbage, runs like garbage, and there is absolutely nothing to do besides one quest. If you find a level 1 mob, you can't kill it in most cases. I'm not talking difficult- I like difficult- I'm talking just stupid. Combat and animations are so slow and clunky it's like playing EQII on an old Pentium 2. Horizons at launch looked brilliant next to this....thing. SoG was light years better than this pile. Time to uninstall and forget I paid 40 bucks for a steaming lump of fecal matter.
Hands Gules a towel for his tears, and a large box of popcorn so he can sit down and watch the rest of the trainwreck with us other "hatebois"
I work as a drawer for money, but still this age old word, that a picture says more than words is the biggest humbug ever. Pictures themselves say all and nothing. Think of DnL what you want, but those are just repeating stereotypes, requoting what others said. It's cheap. People can very easily manipulated with pictures. The big step the modern age has above Middle Ages is, that we know to distrust what is "apparently so" by merely looking at it. It is "obvious" to the eyes that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, but in reality this doesn't happen, but earth rotates instead. All things need examination, statistic validity and thourough testing. Pictures say nothing.
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Unbelievable. That is too funny. Sadly, people will probably lose their jobs and livelihood over this launch.
Do a bad job and you will be fired.
Do a good job and you will be rewarded.
Gamedevelopers found out after Ultima Online and Everquest 1 that this market is HUGE and very profitable if they maded a good game.
The gamingindustry sells for more than the entire Movieindustry worldwide.
Many tries to jump into the que and get a part of the cake and many fails.
Look how many titles that has been utterly crap or simply cancelled.
Shadowbane/Horizons/Neocron was totally crap and how many games have been cancelled?
UO II,Dragon empires,UxO,Mythica is just some i can remember.
It's only fair that some companies goes bankrupt.
That will hopefully make gamedevelopers think twice before releasing unfinished games.
Sadly it looks like Farlan didn't learn anything at all.
So it looks like they just have to pay the price.
They can still get it right but oh boy it takes a lot of work.
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That a photoshopped effort or can you really collect or see piles of crap in this game?
Do a bad job and you will be fired.
Do a good job and you will be rewarded.
Gamedevelopers found out after Ultima Online and Everquest 1 that this market is HUGE and very profitable if they maded a good game.
The gamingindustry sells for more than the entire Movieindustry worldwide.
Many tries to jump into the que and get a part of the cake and many fails.
Look how many titles that has been utterly crap or simply cancelled.
Shadowbane/Horizons/Neocron was totally crap and how many games have been cancelled?
UO II,Dragon empires,UxO,Mythica is just some i can remember.
It's only fair that some companies goes bankrupt.
That will hopefully make gamedevelopers think twice before releasing unfinished games.
Sadly it looks like Farlan didn't learn anything at all.
So it looks like they just have to pay the price.
They can still get it right but oh boy it takes a lot of work.
Shadowbane and Horizons are still going with small niches and your opinion of how good/bad they were are is just that, your opinion. I personally liked HZ's concept they only issue i had was perfomance wise.
Dragon empires and Mythica never even made to launch dragon empires was pulled during Beta which i applaud since they realised the code was up to the performance standards they want (although I wish that they had gone ahead), Mythica was cancelled very early I doubt it even made it to Alpha.
Summary if you are going to group things together to prove a point at least try to group like with like.
I bet you're going to put WoW out there as the perfect game ? , if so you weren't around post launch and obviously have a blind eye turned to the major issues in that game , poor server performance, bad customer support, very sub par pvp and no really idea of balance that still exist to this date. I will say wows concept is good but since then it has gone downhill (and i played wow for over year before giving up on it).
here we go again. May 30th is the release day. There was to be only a open to all on June 5th. It would appear however that since the lousy reviews from the Pioneers, they have changed the "official" release day to June 5th. So they will go with whatever works better in their favor. If the reviews are the same on the 5th, they will then change the release date to the next patch or make up some excuse or another.
According to allllll that was stated and promised to the Pioneers, May 30th WAS the official release day. It has only changed , yet I have not an "official" announcement of the 5th, in the last 24 hours to reflect june 5th as the official.
So they sidestep the lousy launch with a few more days time. Whats it gonna be when its the same crap on 5th?
Oh ok then, they don't even have a normal release date. Maybe weirder by the day was giving too much time, maybe hour. Now that's a poll worth making: What will the lame excuse be on June 5th? Other mmorphs had problems, unexpected number of people, extended release date again...
Although I got to admit I like this thread http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61022 What can I say, I'm a MMORPG rubbernecker.
"(The) Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude." - George W Bush.
Oh. My. God.
huh? I dont get it...
I do however like the name of the player who killed the mob (in chat)
HUH?!
The day i say WoW is a perfect game is the day i die of cancer.
My personal top 3 out of the 16th MMORPG's i have betatested and played.
Ultima Online.
Dark age of camelot.
Everquest I.
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I have been using the name "Kilim" since I made a Chaotic Neutral Dwarf BattleRager when I was in HS playing AD&D 2nd Edition.
(It was at least 10 years ago, maybe longer)
Did it with a random character generator using Dice lol.
I have also used the name "Kilim" in every MMORPG I have ever been in.
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Obviously not though, so disregard and on with the show!
So, back to that D&L bashing...
"(The) Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude." - George W Bush.
Oh. My. God.
Speaking only from what I've seen and read, no first hand experience with the game.
I feel sorry for the DnL devs and am not particularly found of rubbing it in people's faces. They seemed like the sort who wanted to make a game for gamers, not a game to get filthy rich. Like you've said earlier in this thread, people will be losing their livelyhood and it's for sure that there's been alot of time, money and effort put into this project, but they should have had the good sense to see their own shortcomings if it's as bad as it's made out to be.
On the bright side, I guess Anarchy Online lost the crown of Worst MMO Launch Ever.
Edit: Oh? It hasn't been officially released yet? :P Ah well, time will tell.
Just got in on my Griffon account today.
Worst piece of crap ever. Nothing works. My avatar disappears after I take about 30 steps. No one is doing anything but standing around complaining, and darks are in the light newbie area slaughtering people as soon as they spawn(and vice versa). It looks like garbage, runs like garbage, and there is absolutely nothing to do besides one quest. If you find a level 1 mob, you can't kill it in most cases. I'm not talking difficult- I like difficult- I'm talking just stupid. Combat and animations are so slow and clunky it's like playing EQII on an old Pentium 2. Horizons at launch looked brilliant next to this....thing.
SoG was light years better than this pile. Time to uninstall and forget I paid 40 bucks for a steaming lump of fecal matter.
Bite me, Turbine.
Hands Gules a towel for his tears, and a large box of popcorn so he can sit down and watch the rest of the trainwreck with us other "hatebois"
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert