Why wow will stay on top.

afroman7181 · June 2006

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.

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fixif · June 2006

i have 1 lvl 60...been playing WoW for 9 months..and intend to play another 9 or more months ( probably more

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i couldnt agree more with u ..thats all i have to say

Gameloading · June 2006

I disagree with Blizzard being the only company that cares about its game, but I do agree that its the only game that will stay on top for a VERY VERY long time. I really have no idea what game, company or even franchise even has the name or the power to knock WoW from its throne. and if you ask me, WoW really deserves to be on top.

hercules · June 2006

Originally posted by afroman7181

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.
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Haha nice to contradict yourself.First you said you never seen any company do holiday events before and ofc you realised you were totally wrong because EQ series been doing it for years now.

Then rather delete your remark you go on to say nothing compared to what blizzard did and there it is highly a subjective statement because if i say EQ has better events then WoW,can you prove me wrong?

Only way you can use events to judge if a company cares is by number of events and EQ has been doing events since 1999.If by 2010 WoW is still doing holiday events then they match up with EQ .

EQ2 does all holiday events as well.

And in 6 months WoW has added what one raid dungeon?

Joekabuke · June 2006

Let's face it, WoW is the only game that appeals to both retards and power gamers, nothing compares.

Parsifal57 · June 2006

Originally posted by afroman7181

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.
Plz post your though's

Yup they add something new in the way of nerfs, stupid changes or more content that only a relative few of their subsribers will ever see. At least Wow will keep the shallow end of the Gene pool away from the other games that require a little thought to play making life a little more pleasant for the rest of us.

Takata5 · June 2006

Originally posted by afroman7181

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.
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The only reason why this game is staying ontop is because it is catering to casual gamers and not hardcore gamers. Say what you want about the company, but that is the MAIN reason why it will stay on top for awhile.

hercules · June 2006

Originally posted by Takata5

Originally posted by afroman7181

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.
Plz post your though's

The only reason why this game is staying ontop is because it is catering to casual gamers and not hardcore gamers. Say what you want about the company, but that is the MAIN reason why it will stay on top for awhile.

Just put of intrest how does it cater for the casuals in the long run considering the end game is to raid 40 man dungeons and endless BG runs ?

I think pre 60 its quite nice for casuals but once you hit 60 you are now struggling to keep up in gear because the game is highly gear dependant .Try pvping in green armor and see or even blues.

To gain any level of competition at 60 you really need to log in many many hours.Heck just to hold your pvp ranking alone means you need to put in many hours.Try see how much time you need to spent to just get rank 10 in the game and then you must play loads of hours a day just to maintain that as you actually lose rank.

In most other pvp games you can gain your rank at your own pace-ie 1 hr a day and in maybe 2 years gain the highest title there is or pvp 12 hrs a day and in 2 months gain the highest title there is and hold it.

In WoW its a gushian curve.Meaning you need to keep battling to gain rank and hope you logged in enough hours/kills to rise then keep battling even more and hope you spent more time then the next guy to hold on to the title.

So while it may hold water that it is indeed a casual gamers dream pre 60 at 60 it becomes his nightmare.

jbdub1 · June 2006

Ok Flame all you want. WoW will stay on top because it appeals to the most people and its fuckin fun imo. I've played other mmos (SWG pre NGE, eq2) and this is the most fun. Hercules you said that if you play 12 hours a day for 2 months you will get the highest rank in most other games and saying that is better than wows system. In wow if u play 12 hours a day pvping, u will get to rank 13 in a month or less, and by getting rank 13 u get GOOD GEAR so it just takes patience like any other MMO. If u want to hold rank 14, THEN u pvp more its a good system for those that want to pvp and shoot for something thats hard to get. This is a much quicker way to get higher rank so you are wrong. It is true that you have to play a bit longer to raid and what not that is when it becomes a non casual gamers game, but give me an mmo that doesnt require a lot of time put in at high level to get good gear ( guild wars is not an mmo).

damian7 · June 2006

Originally posted by afroman7181

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.
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you've never played COH or UO at a holiday then. i believe uo still has gm run events and activities as well (not just during holidays). and it's not new stuff in wow every new year - had the same abominable yeti greench both years. can't speak to a lot of other games about holidays. although eve, ryzom,
and horizons might do things, they seem to be pretty active with their
playerbase.

coh and cov add at least one new zone every patch (which includes new mobs, new badges, et cetera), plus anywhere from like 3-8 new powersets, which means a lot more character choices for you to play.

damian7 · June 2006

Originally posted by jbdub1
Ok Flame all you want. WoW will stay on top because it appeals to the most people and its fuckin fun imo. I've played other mmos (SWG pre NGE, eq2) and this is the most fun. Hercules you said that if you play 12 hours a day for 2 months you will get the highest rank in most other games and saying that is better than wows system. In wow if u play 12 hours a day pvping, u will get to rank 13 in a month or less, and by getting rank 13 u get GOOD GEAR so it just takes patience like any other MMO. If u want to hold rank 14, THEN u pvp more its a good system for those that want to pvp and shoot for something thats hard to get. This is a much quicker way to get higher rank so you are wrong. It is true that you have to play a bit longer to raid and what not that is when it becomes a non casual gamers game, but give me an mmo that doesnt require a lot of time put in at high level to get good gear ( guild wars is not an mmo).

you won't get rank 10 in a month of nonstop pvping. you might get 8 or 9. anyone that tells you otherwise is on a shard with 20 people total pvping or is a liar.

doesn't require a lot of time at high level to get good gear? swg, uo, ryzom, coh, cov, horizons, shadowbane.

IcoGames · June 2006

I've had my level 60 Hunter for well over a year now, and I still find plenty of fun stuff to do outside raids. There are a lot of quests that can still be done, such as those in Silithus. Although I enjoy battlegrounds, I prefer world pvp.

Blizzard does a great job leading you through content 1 - 59. At 60, like most mmos at the level cap, the game is largely up to the player's design.

Dabble · June 2006

"In WoW its a gushian curve.Meaning you need to keep battling to gain rank and hope you logged in enough hours/kills to rise then keep battling even more and hope you spent more time then the next guy to hold on to the title."

OFT.

The pvp ranking system is highly addictive and dangerous too peoples lives. Some kid literally died from doing the pvp grind. He was without sleep and popping nodoz and energy drinks to get those purple pixels. I really hope that the BC expansion somehow corrects this horrible system.

Fenrir767 · June 2006

I seriously doubt WoW will be able to keep up its success unless the burning crusade revamps a lot of the game such as PvP and raids. Many games are coming out within a year to a few months that are attacking wows weaknesses. I think Q4 2006 is gonna see the WoW player base get eroded.

paravion · June 2006

Originally posted by afroman7181

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.
Plz post your though's

Ya exactly people already playing WOW with epics are not likely to quit and will continue to raid till the day WOW servers are shut down. These are the loyal WOW subscribers while people who does not have a lot of epics will most likely quit the game and move on to something else. Seriously, do you think any new player will try to get their Tier 1 first..then tier 2 ..then tier 3? The chances they will join a top guild is rare unless they have connections etc. But lets say this dude gets into some okay guild. It will take him about 3 months to get his full tier 1... that is raiding at least twice a week. Not everyone will do this but some hardcore pve lovers will try. But as you see WOW is competitive, so these people will try to start to make a character on a new server which blizz has been doing because they know they need new servers to have new players and hopefully they will subscribe more. And you know WOW... the better the gear you have the more efficient you are in PVP. Pve haters won't even try to do 40 man raids and they will quit and move on when a better game comes out. Do you actually think nobody will quit when a better game comes out? If you don't you are just in denial. Tell me this, has anyone in your raiding guild been kicked for inactivity? I'm sure that in every guild someone has been kicked for inactivity or at least you check someone's name they have been inactive for more than 1 month. They simply just quit. And I'm sure you have people in your friend list just stopped comming online and they didn't even say goodbye. I met a lot of people playing WOW tell me this... " at first when WOW comes out I thought it was PVP but then it all ended up with PVE 40 man raids and every patch been focused for pve". Yes those 1 million subscribers that Blizz claimed they have is when they first used their warcraft series title to fool all kind of players to play WOW till later realize it's very pve based. I've been fooled myself and I think that's why there are WOW haters. They are decieved. Yes I hate pve but I already have my tier 2 and I'm my guild's GM's rl friend so I always get first loots for my class. I'm also the only person that doesn't have to raid when I come online during raiding time. I only come whenever I feel like it. Even though of this thing I tell you, my guild is one of the respected guilds by both factions. That's the only reason I still play WOW.

Zerocool032 · June 2006

Originally posted by afroman7181

This game will always be on top of the list, no matter what other mmorpg's come out. They are they only company that show that they care about there game. Take a note of how every holiday they come up with something new. Never seen that done before in any other games i have played(SWG, COH, UO,EQ2). Although they might have something like it it does not compare. Also with each new patch blizz adds something new to the game and in having 2 60's myself I still havnt gotten bored. This shows with the new dungon and teir 3 armor coming out which will give me another challenge for a few month's.
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Congratulations noone cares.

hercules · June 2006

Originally posted by jbdub1
Ok Flame all you want. WoW will stay on top because it appeals to the most people and its fuckin fun imo. I've played other mmos (SWG pre NGE, eq2) and this is the most fun. Hercules you said that if you play 12 hours a day for 2 months you will get the highest rank in most other games and saying that is better than wows system. In wow if u play 12 hours a day pvping, u will get to rank 13 in a month or less, and by getting rank 13 u get GOOD GEAR so it just takes patience like any other MMO. If u want to hold rank 14, THEN u pvp more its a good system for those that want to pvp and shoot for something thats hard to get. This is a much quicker way to get higher rank so you are wrong. It is true that you have to play a bit longer to raid and what not that is when it becomes a non casual gamers game, but give me an mmo that doesnt require a lot of time put in at high level to get good gear ( guild wars is not an mmo).

Actually if you look properly i kept that as an example.Some games will take much less time to acquire the needed reputation or whatever.Some maybe more.

Point i made was simple in all other pvp games you keep your ranking if say you have to go on holidays for a week or 2.You come back and you are exactly that ranking/title.You lose the title from been killed more often in pvp but not for having to constantly pvp.

Again before you quote wrongly i am using examples and not giving exact data because if i do i will start another WoW vs ? game thread which i do not wish to.

So if a i am a title of say darklord or something like that and have to go on vacation for 2 weeks i would come back and be that title.

If i am a high warlord in WoW and even stop playing for a week i am almost guaranteed to lose that title meaning i have to continue pvp and been online extremely regularly to maintain that.

but if you are so willing to use my examples to compare ,i can tell you at least one game that takes less then 6 hrs a day play for less then a month to maximum faction to buy best pvp gear and highest title.PM me if you need the information or just want to confirm.

Gindace · June 2006

I agree with Damiam. CoH does something new for every patch...their patches aren't as frequent as WoW, but they are in the same spirit. And GW I know for a fact does holiday events.

I currently subscribe to WoW and I'm happy with it. But that doesn't mean it's the best I've ever played. It's most definately the king at the moment, but that's because of the huge amounts of exposure it recieved, and the cult Warcraft RTS following. One day there will be a drastic drop in the playerbase, and WoW will fall. It's not likely to happen anytime soon, but it most certainly will happen.

Gameloading · June 2006

Originally posted by Gindace
I agree with Damiam. CoH does something new for every patch...their patches aren't as frequent as WoW, but they are in the same spirit. And GW I know for a fact does holiday events.

I currently subscribe to WoW and I'm happy with it. But that doesn't mean it's the best I've ever played. It's most definately the king at the moment, but that's because of the huge amounts of exposure it recieved, and the cult Warcraft RTS following. One day there will be a drastic drop in the playerbase, and WoW will fall. It's not likely to happen anytime soon, but it most certainly will happen.

the warcraft series before WoW did not sell as much as WoW. in fact, I'm willing to bet not even half of the warcraft RTS players played WoW.

nero0102 · June 2006

I think Blizzard will harm their own game, and allow other games to over take them.

Look at the uproar that's been going on for almost a year now with no end in sight (non-raiders not having anything to do since DM was released last year). They are going to tell everyone that the expansion is going to fix everything. And a few months after their expansion sales drop they will go right back to raiding.

Kaplan said it himself, you aren't going to be on an equal playing field unless you raid.

Their content production is the slowest I have ever seen, in regards to what they add that is accessable to me and my friends. Afterall, if you make something and hardly anyone uses it, do you really want to call it content? For everyone that can't use it, it's like you never patched.

Their holliday events are actually a turn off for a lot of people, especially the christmas and valentimes day knock offs. I'd rather see a game with its own hollidays from the lore.

Vrill · June 2006

I agree with the original poster.

WoW will be on top until the next gen of computers come along at least, or either 360 or PS3 gets a next gen MMO.

Blizzard is the best company in gaming right now. And now they are the richest as well, having the most resources to throw at a problem.

Unless they sell out, which is always a possibility.

.. imagine if SOE bought them ... then again, that's so over the top horrorshow... I'd rather not.

Gosh ... I have 360 and I've thought about getting FFXI, but just looking at the box makes me cringe.

Their content production is glacial. The content is generally good, but everything takes forever.

Warhammer Online might be a WoW capper though ... a lot of us are waiting for it.

Personally I have a huge collection of Warhammer 40K and Fantasy.

They really need a 40K shooter for the 360, (aka Gears of War perhaps)

GW has a great license and more than a lot of content, that they are just sitting on.

zakk_ · June 2006

WoW will stay on top for the next few years because a majority of their playerbase had never played an MMO before they played it.

Games like AoC,G&H and WAR will be released and most WoW players won't even know it.

When the 16yo's playing WoW today exit puberty and realise that there are games that are fun out there,the exodus will begin.

hercules · June 2006

the warcraft series before WoW did not sell as much as WoW. in fact, I'm willing to bet not even half of the warcraft RTS players played WoW.

Erm WC3 sold well over 2m copies in europe alone

CoeNL · June 2006

WoW will stay on top for ever !
I played 10 day's, today was my last day of trial. I have a lvl 11 Human Warrior (boring) and a lvl 19 Hunter, and from the beginning i loved WoW. =D

But now i can't play anymore, so i have to buy the client

hercules · June 2006

Originally posted by CoeNL
WoW will stay on top for ever !
I played 10 day's, today was my last day of trial. I have a lvl 11 Human Warrior (boring) and a lvl 19 Hunter, and from the beginning i loved WoW. =D

But now i can't play anymore, so i have to buy the client

Come back and tell us how u feel after you been 60 for a month or 2.

Good fun though if you are not looking for a long term mmorpg.

swordsbane · June 2006

Originally posted by hercules

Originally posted by CoeNL
WoW will stay on top for ever !
I played 10 day's, today was my last day of trial. I have a lvl 11 Human Warrior (boring) and a lvl 19 Hunter, and from the beginning i loved WoW. =D

But now i can't play anymore, so i have to buy the client

Come back and tell us how u feel after you been 60 for a month or 2.

Good fun though if you are not looking for a long term mmorpg.

Exactly. It's not so much what the devs are doing now, but what they'll be doing a year or two down the road. Will their interest stay when they're thinking about another project? Will it stay if the other project isn't a mmog? What happens when the current crop of players gets bored and start asking for new things in the game that it wasn't designed for? Gamers tend to have a "what have you done for me lately?" mentality. SWG stayed a good game for a long time without changing and then seemingly out of the blue, they pretty much destroyed the game for a large portion of the players. Their excuse? "Our customers want these changes." Will you be one of the ones that wants to make the game something it was never intended to be, or one of those pleading with the devs not to change anything even if it means the company's revenues will go in the toilet?

It's pretty cut and dry now, but that's not a choice I would like to make. I think the devs took the fun out of SWG, but I understand why they did it, and they might have been screwed if they didn't change things. Anyone who thinks that can't happen to WOW is deluding themselves.

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