I think WoW will do well for a long time. I think more people like raiding than some people on here think. Raiding is what a lot of the players on the game look forward to on their way to 60, atleast i know i did. I think Blizzard does listen to its players so i think eventually non raiders will have the oppurtunity to get descent items and such. I think Blizzard hasn't done this yet because a lot of people have played a lot of hours raiding to get the epics, so if they put really good gear in 5 man instances or 10 man instances it really wouldnt be fair Everyone would take the easy road to good items
Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by CoeNL WoW will stay on top for ever ! I played 10 day's, today was my last day of trial. I have a lvl 11 Human Warrior (boring) and a lvl 19 Hunter, and from the beginning i loved WoW. =D
But now i can't play anymore, so i have to buy the client
Come back and tell us how u feel after you been 60 for a month or 2.
Good fun though if you are not looking for a long term mmorpg.
Well, i like long term mmorpg's. I played R.O.S.E Online and Lineage II Chronicle 2,3 and 4 for a long time. I'm gonna install C4 in a few days and begin again with L2. ^^
So if you're thinking that i'm a person that can't play a mmorpg for a long time, you're wrong =]
Originally posted by jbdub1 I think WoW will do well for a long time. I think more people like raiding than some people on here think. Raiding is what a lot of the players on the game look forward to on their way to 60, atleast i know i did. I think Blizzard does listen to its players so i think eventually non raiders will have the oppurtunity to get descent items and such. I think Blizzard hasn't done this yet because a lot of people have played a lot of hours raiding to get the epics, so if they put really good gear in 5 man instances or 10 man instances it really wouldnt be fair Everyone would take the easy road to good items
It's not what you do on your way to being maxed out that matters. It's what you do once you ARE maxed out. All games have a point after you've leveled as much as you can when players start to get bored with the content of the game. WOW is still in the early stage of gaining new players. How is WOW different from other games in how it deals with maxed out characters?
nah you guys are half right... yes wow is a good game and since its "warcraft" everyone didn't do much research of this game and they just bought it ...just like that. but you all know that no company is that stupid to let wow be at #1 gamers' choice forever.... someday someone will kick wow off that seat...we just don't know when and i don't really care. all i care if to have a good game to play with other people. but you have to know all these comments are comming from WOW fanbois so there is clearly a bias ... if you have this same discussion in other game forums the answers will be very different please keep that in mind....
nah you guys are half right... yes wow is a good game and since its "warcraft" everyone didn't do much research of this game and they just bought it ...just like that. but you all know that no company is that stupid to let wow be at #1 gamers' choice forever.... someday someone will kick wow off that seat...we just don't know when and i don't really care. all i care if to have a good game to play with other people. but you have to know all these comments are comming from WOW fanbois so there is clearly a bias ... if you have this same discussion in other game forums the answers will be very different please keep that in mind....
mmogs are still trying to find their market. There are a lot of games out there that cater to different gaming styles. Games don't lose out to other games because they aren't as good. They just trade lead position, mostly just by seniority. The new game always gets more air time until people figure out what kind of a game it really is. My own opinion says that the popularity of a game has little to do with how good it is. DDO did the best advertising I've seen to date. They didn't come out and say "We're the best mmorpg there is" They said "All of you guys who like the old PnP D&D games, come over here because that's the kind of game we're making." And they're right, but I outgrew that when I was in highschool, but if that's the game they were shooting for, at least they're honest. Most of the rest are "This is a mmorpg that has things no one else has, so we're the best." They're usually right about the first part, but as they promote their strengths, they hide their weaknesses so that players only discover them after the've been playing for a while, and then they feel betrayed and look to change the game, or the advertisments make wild claims that are vauge and usually turn out to be overexaggerated. But how many of those games have closed up shop because they can't get enough players? Very few. SWG is still there even though they seem to have changed their entire idea of gaming around. UO is still there despite the bitching that they ruined a great game. Anarchy Online is there even though their basic game is FREE. I'm sure Shadowbane will be there for a long time too. My problem is that I like all aspects of rpgs at one time or another, but I don't want to spend $30-$50 a game, and $10-$20 a month for each account to keep several game accounts active for all my moods. The concept of rpgs is that you can do anything you want, not be pigeon-holed into one particular gaming style and then quit when you get bored. I'm happy to make a new character when I want a change of pace, but buy a new game? If I'm playing a role playing game and I want a flight simulator, then I'll buy a new game.
While I was still playing Shadowbane, I heard about how crappy it had become and how all these people were heading to WOW because it was a better game. There's one probllem with that. The strength of Shadowbane (probably its only strength) was that it allowed you to build cities and create nations out of them. It was the first true empire-building structure built into an mmog I'd seen. WOW isn't like that and has no intention of being like that, so exactly how was it 'better' than Shadowbane? That was all Shadowbane was. If you're saying it was a better rpg, then I would agree with you, but a pinball game had more role playing than Shadowbane did, so if you were playing Shadowbane because you thought it was an rpg, then you're a moron. No crafting, no economy, huge lvl gap. It took me all of three hours playing time to figure out that the game I was playing was WAY different than the description on the Ubisoft web site. How did that little fact slip past all these people? Or maybe they're saying that they were mistaken and didn't really want to play an empire-building game with no depth. Again.. Why were they playing Shadowbane?
When WOW runs into that wall of boredom (and it will unless drastic changes are made to it) the same thing will happen I'm sure. People will leave for some other game. WOW is more well rounded, but you watch, someone will say they're leaving because they've found a game that has "better empire-building options" or some such nonsense, and I'll laugh my head off. If you're playing WOW for that, I'm sorry. You're a moron.
Originally posted by jbdub1 I think WoW will do well for a long time. I think more people like raiding than some people on here think. Raiding is what a lot of the players on the game look forward to on their way to 60, atleast i know i did. I think Blizzard does listen to its players so i think eventually non raiders will have the oppurtunity to get descent items and such. I think Blizzard hasn't done this yet because a lot of people have played a lot of hours raiding to get the epics, so if they put really good gear in 5 man instances or 10 man instances it really wouldnt be fair Everyone would take the easy road to good items
how old are you? do you have a job? a significant other? play any sports? have any social obligations, i.e. clubs, church, et cetera? how many hours a week do you devote to raiding?
blizzard hasn't done *this* yet because it's lead dev is a fanatical eq player who has only ever played eq and thinks that you SHOULD devote 40-60 hours a week to play a GAME.
maybe they should've hired someone with a wife and kids that had a life outside of playing eq in mommy's basement?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Originally posted by nero0102 I think Blizzard will harm their own game, and allow other games to over take them.
Look at the uproar that's been going on for almost a year now with no end in sight (non-raiders not having anything to do since DM was released last year). They are going to tell everyone that the expansion is going to fix everything. And a few months after their expansion sales drop they will go right back to raiding.
Kaplan said it himself, you aren't going to be on an equal playing field unless you raid.
Their content production is the slowest I have ever seen, in regards to what they add that is accessable to me and my friends. Afterall, if you make something and hardly anyone uses it, do you really want to call it content? For everyone that can't use it, it's like you never patched.
Their holliday events are actually a turn off for a lot of people, especially the christmas and valentimes day knock offs. I'd rather see a game with its own hollidays from the lore.
that last statement is hilarious when applied to wow. wow --- follow their own lore? LMMFAO~!!
oh in case anyone is not sure what i mean... let me just say
blue man, "wtf, who are you?" red elf, "imma keel UUUU~!!" pew pew pew pew pew
kaplan = um, well, seriously, can i get a copy of the stuff he said at blizzcon and if he was at e3--what he'd said there? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee. i really want to laugh.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Originally posted by CoeNL Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by CoeNL WoW will stay on top for ever ! I played 10 day's, today was my last day of trial. I have a lvl 11 Human Warrior (boring) and a lvl 19 Hunter, and from the beginning i loved WoW. =D
But now i can't play anymore, so i have to buy the client
Come back and tell us how u feel after you been 60 for a month or 2.
Good fun though if you are not looking for a long term mmorpg.
Well, i like long term mmorpg's. I played R.O.S.E Online and Lineage II Chronicle 2,3 and 4 for a long time. I'm gonna install C4 in a few days and begin again with L2. ^^
So if you're thinking that i'm a person that can't play a mmorpg for a long time, you're wrong =]
get in a nearly-max-sized guild now then. and start smooching up to the leaders so your hunter (which will be probably 25-30% of the guild's population) can actually get on the occasional raid. hunters are NOT a class that any guild is ever short on. consequently, since they are fun to play, and everyone plays them, they're like the fat, slow kid in kickball --- picked last.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Originally posted by damian7 how old are you? do you have a job? a significant other? play any sports? have any social obligations, i.e. clubs, church, et cetera? how many hours a week do you devote to raiding?blizzard hasn't done *this* yet because it's lead dev is a fanatical eq player who has only ever played eq and thinks that you SHOULD devote 40-60 hours a week to play a GAME.maybe they should've hired someone with a wife and kids that had a life outside of playing eq in mommy's basement?
Lol, how old are you Damian7? Who are you to tell someone what he or she should or shouldn't do, or what he or she should like? Even if someone chooses to play '40-60' hours per week, that's their choice. Their life is no less or more significant than yours.
You've had some decent arguments this week, but this is getting infantile.
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Come back and tell us how u feel after you been 60 for a month or 2.
Good fun though if you are not looking for a long term mmorpg.
Well, i like long term mmorpg's. I played R.O.S.E Online and Lineage II Chronicle 2,3 and 4 for a long time.
I'm gonna install C4 in a few days and begin again with L2. ^^
So if you're thinking that i'm a person that can't play a mmorpg for a long time, you're wrong =]
nah you guys are half right... yes wow is a good game and since its "warcraft" everyone didn't do much research of this game and they just bought it ...just like that. but you all know that no company is that stupid to let wow be at #1 gamers' choice forever.... someday someone will kick wow off that seat...we just don't know when and i don't really care. all i care if to have a good game to play with other people. but you have to know all these comments are comming from WOW fanbois so there is clearly a bias ... if you have this same discussion in other game forums the answers will be very different please keep that in mind....
While I was still playing Shadowbane, I heard about how crappy it had become and how all these people were heading to WOW because it was a better game. There's one probllem with that. The strength of Shadowbane (probably its only strength) was that it allowed you to build cities and create nations out of them. It was the first true empire-building structure built into an mmog I'd seen. WOW isn't like that and has no intention of being like that, so exactly how was it 'better' than Shadowbane? That was all Shadowbane was. If you're saying it was a better rpg, then I would agree with you, but a pinball game had more role playing than Shadowbane did, so if you were playing Shadowbane because you thought it was an rpg, then you're a moron. No crafting, no economy, huge lvl gap. It took me all of three hours playing time to figure out that the game I was playing was WAY different than the description on the Ubisoft web site. How did that little fact slip past all these people? Or maybe they're saying that they were mistaken and didn't really want to play an empire-building game with no depth. Again.. Why were they playing Shadowbane?
When WOW runs into that wall of boredom (and it will unless drastic changes are made to it) the same thing will happen I'm sure. People will leave for some other game. WOW is more well rounded, but you watch, someone will say they're leaving because they've found a game that has "better empire-building options" or some such nonsense, and I'll laugh my head off. If you're playing WOW for that, I'm sorry. You're a moron.
blizzard hasn't done *this* yet because it's lead dev is a fanatical eq player who has only ever played eq and thinks that you SHOULD devote 40-60 hours a week to play a GAME.
maybe they should've hired someone with a wife and kids that had a life outside of playing eq in mommy's basement?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
oh in case anyone is not sure what i mean... let me just say
blue man, "wtf, who are you?"
red elf, "imma keel UUUU~!!" pew pew pew pew pew
kaplan = um, well, seriously, can i get a copy of the stuff he said at blizzcon and if he was at e3--what he'd said there? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee. i really want to laugh.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Come back and tell us how u feel after you been 60 for a month or 2.
Good fun though if you are not looking for a long term mmorpg.
Well, i like long term mmorpg's. I played R.O.S.E Online and Lineage II Chronicle 2,3 and 4 for a long time.
I'm gonna install C4 in a few days and begin again with L2. ^^
So if you're thinking that i'm a person that can't play a mmorpg for a long time, you're wrong =]
get in a nearly-max-sized guild now then. and start smooching up to the leaders so your hunter (which will be probably 25-30% of the guild's population) can actually get on the occasional raid. hunters are NOT a class that any guild is ever short on. consequently, since they are fun to play, and everyone plays them, they're like the fat, slow kid in kickball --- picked last.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Lol, how old are you Damian7? Who are you to tell someone what he or she should or shouldn't do, or what he or she should like? Even if someone chooses to play '40-60' hours per week, that's their choice. Their life is no less or more significant than yours.
You've had some decent arguments this week, but this is getting infantile.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.