I don't know I am not in the game(won't be atleast untill August) but I see them making improvements on the game, which is something I NEVER Saw with Star wars galaxies LOL! BUt Alas I am sitting back and waiting that is the very reason I did NOT pre order LOL!
Could you list all these improvements ? Quite frankly although I am not ingame myself judging from the official boards it looks like it has went downhill from SoG. All I see is they added some stuff all of which is broken, and broke some of the stuff that was working does not constitute any sort of progress in my opinion.
Originally posted by Oakstead If you guys are not in he game how can you even post here with any level of real knowledge.
Oakstead the point is about the statement by the CEO that the launch was in his words "flawless". One does not have to be playing to see that it was a far far from flawless. A quick read of the official forums is nothing but endless list of problems.
Heres just ONE thread to see the 'flawless" launch:
Originally posted by Aguitha 2 days from launch, i checked on Ebgames.com and LOL the game is not even listed.
Because D&L is download only, how many download only games do you find at Ebgames? Exacly 0
For a game to be sold at EBgames they need to have a contract with the publisher (simplified: the middlehand that ships copies everywhere) because EBgames do not earn 100% of the consumer game cost.
It is clear Farlan wants to make the most profit with the least amount of work so having costumers use their bandwith for download & upload AND charging full price is a dream come true for greedy companies.
Also has anyone seen any means of cancelling an D&L account?
Originally posted by Aguitha 2 days from launch, i checked on Ebgames.com and LOL the game is not even listed.
Because D&L is download only, how many download only games do you find at Ebgames? Exacly 0
For a game to be sold at EBgames they need to have a contract with the publisher (simplified: the middlehand that ships copies everywhere) because EBgames do not earn 100% of the consumer game cost.
It is clear Farlan wants to make the most profit with the least amount of work so having costumers use their bandwith for download & upload AND charging full price is a dream come true for greedy companies.
Also has anyone seen any means of cancelling an D&L account?
Yes you can get a refund through click and buy. I can not waiti till August which is when I am going to download Dark and light. I just got word from my husband that he is having fun in Dark and light and I also got word that a good friend of mine is downloading it right now.
I just got word from my husband that he is having fun in Dark and light and I also got word that a good friend of mine is downloading it right now.
you just got word from your husband? That's a rather strange way of putting it if you don't mind me saying so. Well at least one person is enjoying it. Next time your husband sends you word, why don't you have him come over here and write a review.
originally posted by osiloa I just got word from my husband that he is having fun in Dark and light and I also got word that a good friend of mine is downloading it right now.
you just got word from your husband? That's a rather strange way of putting it if you don't mind me saying so. Well at least one person is enjoying it. Next time your husband sends you word, why don't you have him come over here and write a review.
Sorry for that mis wording LOL! He is actually my Star wars galaxies in game husband LOL! but our characters have been married for 2 years in Star wars galaxies and we have been good friends in that game for 3 years. LOL!
originally posted by osiloa I just got word from my husband that he is having fun in Dark and light and I also got word that a good friend of mine is downloading it right now.
you just got word from your husband? That's a rather strange way of putting it if you don't mind me saying so. Well at least one person is enjoying it. Next time your husband sends you word, why don't you have him come over here and write a review.
Originally posted by osiloa Originally posted by vorlons It is a total disaster. If this was a MMO released 10 years ago i would understand the crappy FPS. Bugs like when you deposit money in the bank you cant get them back out of the bank and newbie zones not pvp protected are totally unacceptable for a game release for which people paid money for. Quality control ?? never heard of. Makes you think Farlan is 5 to 10 people in total sitting somewhere on that island (reunion its called) having a good laugh with us. Nothing works as promised. Its totally full with bugs (alot of them bugs that with some simple quality control could have been avoided). XP grind like you would not believe it (go read the DNL forums). IF you love to grind till you drop dead this is the game for you (and if you like most of the stuff doesnt work ), if you like to just fly around on a dragon (if you were a pioneer) then yes true some nice cute vieuws. If you have patience and can wait till patch 25369 then yes its a game for you also. Else you want a game where Modern game mechanics exist and where the focus is NOT on XP griding this is not the game for you. They never listened to us and deserve a class action, or just go bust, its a scandal people are allowed to release such garbage. If this was still normal beta it could be accepted. But this is actual release... and this is going the same way this game has been going for the last 8 months so a quickfix will never happen. Honestly this game is around 40% finished. If you willing to pay to be part of this eternal beta... go ahead most of us who were stupid enough to preorder will bail after our free months.... It was a great idea with great promising graphics and a great setup but total poor execution with no care for the customer...
I don't know I am not in the game(won't be atleast untill August) but I see them making improvements on the game, which is something I NEVER Saw with Star wars galaxies LOL! BUt Alas I am sitting back and waiting that is the very reason I did NOT pre order LOL!
They havnt fixed bugs that were in closed beta over a year ago. From what I can see (having been in-game) is that they have added some more content over and above what SoG was and also created some more bugs.
SWG was 10x better than this crap and I am no fan of SWG either but was in beta.
Originally posted by Mehuge Originally posted by osiloa Originally posted by vorlons It is a total disaster. If this was a MMO released 10 years ago i would understand the crappy FPS. Bugs like when you deposit money in the bank you cant get them back out of the bank and newbie zones not pvp protected are totally unacceptable for a game release for which people paid money for. Quality control ?? never heard of. Makes you think Farlan is 5 to 10 people in total sitting somewhere on that island (reunion its called) having a good laugh with us. Nothing works as promised. Its totally full with bugs (alot of them bugs that with some simple quality control could have been avoided). XP grind like you would not believe it (go read the DNL forums). IF you love to grind till you drop dead this is the game for you (and if you like most of the stuff doesnt work ), if you like to just fly around on a dragon (if you were a pioneer) then yes true some nice cute vieuws. If you have patience and can wait till patch 25369 then yes its a game for you also. Else you want a game where Modern game mechanics exist and where the focus is NOT on XP griding this is not the game for you. They never listened to us and deserve a class action, or just go bust, its a scandal people are allowed to release such garbage. If this was still normal beta it could be accepted. But this is actual release... and this is going the same way this game has been going for the last 8 months so a quickfix will never happen. Honestly this game is around 40% finished. If you willing to pay to be part of this eternal beta... go ahead most of us who were stupid enough to preorder will bail after our free months.... It was a great idea with great promising graphics and a great setup but total poor execution with no care for the customer...
I don't know I am not in the game(won't be atleast untill August) but I see them making improvements on the game, which is something I NEVER Saw with Star wars galaxies LOL! BUt Alas I am sitting back and waiting that is the very reason I did NOT pre order LOL!
They havnt fixed bugs that were in closed beta over a year ago. From what I can see (having been in-game) is that they have added some more content over and above what SoG was and also created some more bugs.
SWG was 10x better than this crap and I am no fan of SWG either but was in beta.
Originally posted by Zorbane Originally posted by osiloa Well they seem to to be slowly fixing the bugs
bugs are one thing
flawed game play is another
take in point their gawdawful combat system
they'd need to rewrite the whole thing not just patch it.
LOL Well Zorbane how long have you read my posts? I could not even tell you what is going on with combat LOL! I am a crafter and as such I am not even paying attention to any problems that concern combat, but I will tell you that My friend Aeree Is in the game as we speak and he has no problem with any of the combat, but like I said I don't know can't tell you LOL! But I logged on to the forums and saw some people praising the devs for fixing some bugs they had in the crafting system.
pls Osiloa, since you havent been in the game and your ingame husband is the one telling you this, pls refrain from trying to give a lollipop impression of it unless you have actually played the game yourself.
from a thread at this site:
"Today after patching, I just crash out after a few seconds. "
"The srvdir.xml containing the neccessary md5 and filesizes for the comparative checks are missing these files"
"GTZ Packing Error :: Compression error"
"What didn't they mess up?"
"User login ID not found? "
"problem logging in"
"try to log back in i get to the character selection screen i go to click on something and it restarts my computer"
"Im getting into game and then 10 seconds later crash to desktop"
"I have deleted and reinstalled DnL from scratch and have tried it on a second PC - same results "
"Problem getting file from server. Please try again later."
"this is just unplayable and to charge people for the privilege of playing a game that is clearly still in beta is a rip off"
"Getting the patcher freezing then after terminating saying it's patched and saying file error"
"I cannot log in the game"
"It says not such account name"
"my Patcher is not downloading res.npz, res.str and DnLg.exe correctly, it keeps failing intergrity check".
"Another patch.... and it's happened again, the same 3 files will not download properly"
"I get this error every patch and have to get my friend to email me the files"
"the game freezes and I get a Microsoft fatalerror reort says DnL exe has expirienced a problem and the game crashes"
" can't even get into the game "
"# LOGIN_ REJECTED_ALREADY_LOGGED_IN #.***; "
"you have been disconnected"
"After the new patch my action bar freezes and i cannot use any of my abilities"
UPDATE 1.0.5 IS UP, READY TO TEST
Thats just the patch today. The game is unplayable. Toons are permabugged, missing or messed up. Combat is unplayable (just look at their forums and any other forum out there. I can hardly stomach your husband being the only one who has no problems whatsoever with the combat. Give us a break, its getting old.
Originally posted by Alouisious pls Osiloa, since you havent been in the game and your ingame husband is the one telling you this, pls refrain from trying to give a lollipop impression of it unless you have actually played the game yourself. from a thread at this site: "Today after patching, I just crash out after a few seconds. " "The srvdir.xml containing the neccessary md5 and file sizes for the comparative checks are missing these files" "GTZ Packing Error :: Compression error" "What didn't they mess up?" "User login ID not found? " "problem logging in" "try to log back in i get to the character selection screen i go to click on something and it restarts my computer" "I'm getting into game and then 10 seconds later crash to desktop" "I have deleted and reinstalled DnL from scratch and have tried it on a second PC - same results " "Problem getting file from server. Please try again later." "this is just unplayable and to charge people for the privilege of playing a game that is clearly still in beta is a rip off" "Getting the patcher freezing then after terminating saying it's patched and saying file error" "I cannot log in the game" "It says not such account name" "my Patcher is not downloading res.npz, res.str and DnLg.exe correctly, it keeps failing intergrity check". "Another patch.... and it's happened again, the same 3 files will not download properly" "I get this error every patch and have to get my friend to email me the files" "the game freezes and I get a Microsoft fatal error reort says DnL exe has expirienced a problem and the game crashes" " can't even get into the game " "# LOGIN_ REJECTED_ALREADY_LOGGED_IN #.***; " "you have been disconnected" "After the new patch my action bar freezes and i cannot use any of my abilities" UPDATE 1.0.5 IS UP, READY TO TEST Thats just the patch today. The game is unplayable. Toons are permabugged, missing or messed up. Combat is unplayable (just look at their forums and any other forum out there. I can hardly stomach your husband being the only one who has no problems whatsoever with the combat. Give us a break, its getting old.
There are other people that are in game and are having fun as well yes there are problems there are going to be problems that is why I am NOT in game, Don't flame me cause I was actually the smart one and decided to wait it out. And as far as Aeree not having problems , so you are going to flame me just cause he does not have any problems? you my friend are what is getting old!
Its not a flame at all. Its a statement. The combat is forked, the gameplay is forked and you seem to want us all to believe that out of all the pages and pages and pages of problems listed, including the combat, which is forked, that your husband is having no problems at all. ONE person out of how many? And it has already been shown that many of the posters on the dnl forums are the mods and devs themselves. There is just nothing good about this game.
Unless you are actually playing it yourself, you dont even know, nor could you even possibly comprehend the gross incompetence of the game devs. Its mind boggling. The 'updates are being praised" pfft. Its the simple things that they fixed, which should not have even been there in the first place at a launch, and there are STILL problems with it. Simply because a FEW ppl posted a thanx to the devs shows the out and out desperation of these ppl. Devs shouldnt be praised for each small little "fix" that shouldnt have even seen the light of day in the first place. Players are so hungry for ANYTHING to be fixed, they are desperate.Even the DEVS admitted the problems with COMBAT.
Again, unless and untill you play this game and attempt anything that these others, that ARE in game, are saying HAVE PROBLEMS, its the constant pretty boy comments you are trying deperately to pull out outta the hat that are getting old. What was posted earlier as problems is TRUE. What was posted about the recent "patch" is TRUE. No amount of "but gee golly they are fixing them slowly" is gonna change the POS this game is.
Originally posted by Alouisious Its not a flame at all. Its a statement. The combat is forked, the game play is forked and you seem to want us all to believe that out of all the pages and pages and pages of problems listed, including the combat, which is forked, that your husband is having no problems at all. ONE person out of how many? And it has already been shown that many of the posters on the dnl forums are the mods and devs themselves. There is just nothing good about this game. Unless you are actually playing it yourself, you donut even know, nor could you even possibly comprehend the gross incompetence of the game devs. Its mind boggling. The 'updates are being praised" pfft. Its the simple things that they fixed, which should not have even been there in the first place at a launch, and there are STILL problems with it. Simply because a FEW ppl posted a thanx to the devs shows the out and out desperation of these ppl. Devs shouldn't be praised for each small little "fix" that shouldn't have even seen the light of day in the first place. Players are so hungry for ANYTHING to be fixed, they are desperate. Even the DEVS admitted the problems with COMBAT. Again, unless and until you play this game and attempt anything that these others, that ARE in game, are saying HAVE PROBLEMS, its the constant pretty boy comments you are trying desperately to pull out outta the hat that are getting old. What was posted earlier as problems is TRUE. What was posted about the recent "patch" is TRUE. No amount of "but gee golly they are fixing them slowly" is gonna change the POS this game is.
Well I wont know until august as I wont even put a cent down on the game till then , if it lasts that long. I am not trying to sugar coat anything here and even Zorbane can tell you I have been nothing but courteous to him even if he is a hate bois I am not saying that this game IS AWESOME and the best game out there, I am by no means a fanbois.I am just a person who is willing to wait it out and see what this game turns into. I am not lieing about what Aeree is telling me either if he says he is having fun in the game I believe him, I have no reason to doubt him. And believe me I see all the problems they are having in the game no need to point it out to me I read the forums. As I said earlier I knew there were going to be problems, in fact I knew there were going to be major problems. For one thing they stopped the beta too early, they should never have stopped the beta in the first place, if they had continued the beta most of these problems would have been found out long ago.
Originally posted by osiloa they should never have stopped the beta in the first place, if they had continued the beta most of these problems would have been found out long ago.
~chuckles~ perhaps but methinks not.~chuckles~
Anyway they had 6 months of SoG to learn from, whether SoG was a beta of DnL is really just a moot point, they should have still used it as one rather than dumping this mess of untested code in everyones lap.
At any rate the forums are quite entertaining, unfortunately even their web servers are crashing repeatedly at the moment. Just another part of the flawless launch I suppose.
by the way, why can't I copy and paste here? I tried to copy a thread in our guild forums so I can prove to you guys what Aeree and darcen are telling me. but I copied the thread, but it would not let me paste here
Frogive him Osiloa, he just found out today that Farlan charged him twice for the pioneer, then took out the monthly subscription fee when he had 2 months free as compensation, then they tried to tell him he didnt have an account when he asked for his money back. I have never seen him so relentless in his "mood" LOL
Alot of what he said (sans the snide remarks to you) however is depressingly true to the vast, almost unanimous majority of the players on the forums. 19 pages of first impressions gives you all the info you care to hear for awhile. LOL
I too am a refunded Pioneer. I refunded back in Dec however. A neighbor of mine has the game and I go over to his house and we laugh the entire time. I can tell you, in fact we made this statement to each other tonight, that the ones having fun are the ones pking, ganking, griefing the lowbies at the newbie sites. It was horribly funny as it was due to the PVP not being turned off in the area AS WELL as the aggro radius of the mobs was incredible. LOL Im sorry but the only fun we have in game is watching all the bugs, messed up stuff, the chat complaints and questions and comments (some of the best one liners I have ever seen!) So in that respect, I guess I can go with "its a fun game". LOL
I am one who purchased yesterday. Fixed all my glitches with the actual getting into the game and got in today. Spent a bit of time there trying to get things to work, including my character as well as the vendors and NPCs and transports. Most made me crash.
I wouldnt trust those devs for the world, wouldn't count on the game getting much better very fast, but chances are i'll try it out at some point anyway. It looks to be a sandbox type game, where player interaction determines much more then in your average mmo. That is good, and I don't mind a challenging and rather empty worlds at start one bit either.
Originally posted by Cholayna Frogive him Osiloa, he just found out today that Farlan charged him twice for the pioneer, then took out the monthly subscription fee when he had 2 months free as compensation, then they tried to tell him he didnt have an account when he asked for his money back. I have never seen him so relentless in his "mood" LOL Alot of what he said (sans the snide remarks to you) however is depressingly true to the vast, almost unanimous majority of the players on the forums. 19 pages of first impressions gives you all the info you care to hear for awhile. LOL I too am a refunded Pioneer. I refunded back in Dec however. A neighbor of mine has the game and I go over to his house and we laugh the entire time. I can tell you, in fact we made this statement to each other tonight, that the ones having fun are the ones pking, ganking, griefing the lowbies at the newbie sites. It was horribly funny as it was due to the PVP not being turned off in the area AS WELL as the aggro radius of the mobs was incredible. LOL Im sorry but the only fun we have in game is watching all the bugs, messed up stuff, the chat complaints and questions and comments (some of the best one liners I have ever seen!) So in that respect, I guess I can go with "its a fun game". LOL
Well I wish I could copy and paste in here, but Aeree and Darcen are not PVping at all and are still having fun. IF you can get on to Dark and lights forums I made a thread in off topic and I copied and pasted there if you want to see it. I am trying to figure out why some people are having huge problems with the game, while others are having no to little problems.
I wouldnt trust those devs for the world, wouldn't count on the game getting much better very fast, but chances are i'll try it out at some point anyway. It looks to be a sandbox type game, where player interaction determines much more then in your average mmo. That is good, and I don't mind a challenging and rather empty worlds at start one bit either.
Exactly, that is the very reason I absolutely refused to pre pay for the game. I am not even going to try to play the game till atleast August and maybe not even then.
What is sad is not the many bugs with the world but the fact there is so little game there. Everything seems to be a placeholder. What I dont understand is why they wouldn't implement things (many skills for example) that are just so far off from how they will end up. (Yes I know all games need tuning but everything misses by miles). I dont think the game has ever been 'designed'. Unfortunately the way they (NP3 and Farland) have behaved smacks not only of gross incopmpetence but out and out deciet. I'm quite sad because they had some vision and I was seduced by thier grandios ideas, clearly they didnt have a clue how to design and deliver a game based on those ideas.
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I miss DAoC
Heres just ONE thread to see the 'flawless" launch:
http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60592
heres a couple on the crafting:
Missing ingredients, etc, etc. the whole setup on crafting is insane.
http://darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61589
you gotta read EVERY post in this one LOL
AND THIS ONE TOO! LOLOLOLOLOL
http://darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61096
but ohhhh yeh its working by golly! LOL
For a game to be sold at EBgames they need to have a contract with the publisher (simplified: the middlehand that ships copies everywhere) because EBgames do not earn 100% of the consumer game cost.
It is clear Farlan wants to make the most profit with the least amount of work so having costumers use their bandwith for download & upload AND charging full price is a dream come true for greedy companies.
Also has anyone seen any means of cancelling an D&L account?
For a game to be sold at EBgames they need to have a contract with the publisher (simplified: the middlehand that ships copies everywhere) because EBgames do not earn 100% of the consumer game cost.
It is clear Farlan wants to make the most profit with the least amount of work so having costumers use their bandwith for download & upload AND charging full price is a dream come true for greedy companies.
Also has anyone seen any means of cancelling an D&L account?
Yes you can get a refund through click and buy. I can not waiti till August which is when I am going to download Dark and light.
I miss DAoC
Sorry for that mis wording LOL! He is actually my Star wars galaxies in game husband LOL! but our characters have been married for 2 years in Star wars galaxies and we have been good friends in that game for 3 years. LOL!
HE doesn't post on any forums, does`t like them.
They havnt fixed bugs that were in closed beta over a year ago. From what I can see (having been in-game) is that they have added some more content over and above what SoG was and also created some more bugs.
SWG was 10x better than this crap and I am no fan of SWG either but was in beta.
They havnt fixed bugs that were in closed beta over a year ago. From what I can see (having been in-game) is that they have added some more content over and above what SoG was and also created some more bugs.
SWG was 10x better than this crap and I am no fan of SWG either but was in beta.
Well they seem to to be slowly fixing the bugs
bugs are one thing
flawed gameplay is another
take in point their gawdawful combat system
they'd need to rewrite the whole thing not just patch it.
bugs are one thing
flawed game play is another
take in point their gawdawful combat system
they'd need to rewrite the whole thing not just patch it.
LOL Well Zorbane how long have you read my posts? I could not even tell you what is going on with combat LOL! I am a crafter and as such I am not even paying attention to any problems that concern combat, but I will tell you that My friend Aeree Is in the game as we speak and he has no problem with any of the combat, but like I said I don't know can't tell you LOL! But I logged on to the forums and saw some people praising the devs for fixing some bugs they had in the crafting system.
pls Osiloa, since you havent been in the game and your ingame husband is the one telling you this, pls refrain from trying to give a lollipop impression of it unless you have actually played the game yourself.
from a thread at this site:
"Today after patching, I just crash out after a few seconds. "
"The srvdir.xml containing the neccessary md5 and filesizes for the comparative checks are missing these files"
"GTZ Packing Error :: Compression error"
"What didn't they mess up?"
"User login ID not found? "
"problem logging in"
"try to log back in i get to the character selection screen i go to click on something and it restarts my computer"
"Im getting into game and then 10 seconds later crash to desktop"
"I have deleted and reinstalled DnL from scratch and have tried it on a second PC - same results "
"Problem getting file from server. Please try again later."
"this is just unplayable and to charge people for the privilege of playing a game that is clearly still in beta is a rip off"
"Getting the patcher freezing then after terminating saying it's patched and saying file error"
"I cannot log in the game"
"It says not such account name"
"my Patcher is not downloading res.npz, res.str and DnLg.exe correctly, it keeps failing intergrity check".
"Another patch.... and it's happened again, the same 3 files will not download properly"
"I get this error every patch and have to get my friend to email me the files"
"the game freezes and I get a Microsoft fatalerror reort says DnL exe has expirienced a problem and the game crashes"
" can't even get into the game "
"# LOGIN_ REJECTED_ALREADY_LOGGED_IN #.***; "
"you have been disconnected"
"After the new patch my action bar freezes and i cannot use any of my abilities"
UPDATE 1.0.5 IS UP, READY TO TEST
Thats just the patch today. The game is unplayable. Toons are permabugged, missing or messed up. Combat is unplayable (just look at their forums and any other forum out there. I can hardly stomach your husband being the only one who has no problems whatsoever with the combat. Give us a break, its getting old.
Its not a flame at all. Its a statement. The combat is forked, the gameplay is forked and you seem to want us all to believe that out of all the pages and pages and pages of problems listed, including the combat, which is forked, that your husband is having no problems at all. ONE person out of how many? And it has already been shown that many of the posters on the dnl forums are the mods and devs themselves. There is just nothing good about this game.
Unless you are actually playing it yourself, you dont even know, nor could you even possibly comprehend the gross incompetence of the game devs. Its mind boggling. The 'updates are being praised" pfft. Its the simple things that they fixed, which should not have even been there in the first place at a launch, and there are STILL problems with it. Simply because a FEW ppl posted a thanx to the devs shows the out and out desperation of these ppl. Devs shouldnt be praised for each small little "fix" that shouldnt have even seen the light of day in the first place. Players are so hungry for ANYTHING to be fixed, they are desperate. Even the DEVS admitted the problems with COMBAT.
Again, unless and untill you play this game and attempt anything that these others, that ARE in game, are saying HAVE PROBLEMS, its the constant pretty boy comments you are trying deperately to pull out outta the hat that are getting old. What was posted earlier as problems is TRUE. What was posted about the recent "patch" is TRUE. No amount of "but gee golly they are fixing them slowly" is gonna change the POS this game is.
I am not trying to sugar coat anything here and even Zorbane can tell you I have been nothing but courteous to him even if he is a hate bois I am not saying that this game IS AWESOME and the best game out there, I am by no means a fanbois.I am just a person who is willing to wait it out and see what this game turns into. I am not lieing about what Aeree is telling me either if he says he is having fun in the game I believe him, I have no reason to doubt him. And believe me I see all the problems they are having in the game no need to point it out to me I read the forums. As I said earlier I knew there were going to be problems, in fact I knew there were going to be major problems. For one thing they stopped the beta too early, they should never have stopped the beta in the first place, if they had continued the beta most of these problems would have been found out long ago.
I miss DAoC
I tried to copy a thread in our guild forums so I can prove to you guys what Aeree and darcen are telling me.
but I copied the thread, but it would not let me paste here
Well see how long they'll enjoy SoG i mean DnL i mean SoG...I'm confused now
Most of the time people have fun playing games for the first time
Then whether or not the game is good or not depends on if they keep having fun.
Frogive him Osiloa, he just found out today that Farlan charged him twice for the pioneer, then took out the monthly subscription fee when he had 2 months free as compensation, then they tried to tell him he didnt have an account when he asked for his money back. I have never seen him so relentless in his "mood" LOL
Alot of what he said (sans the snide remarks to you) however is depressingly true to the vast, almost unanimous majority of the players on the forums. 19 pages of first impressions gives you all the info you care to hear for awhile. LOL
I too am a refunded Pioneer. I refunded back in Dec however. A neighbor of mine has the game and I go over to his house and we laugh the entire time. I can tell you, in fact we made this statement to each other tonight, that the ones having fun are the ones pking, ganking, griefing the lowbies at the newbie sites. It was horribly funny as it was due to the PVP not being turned off in the area AS WELL as the aggro radius of the mobs was incredible. LOL Im sorry but the only fun we have in game is watching all the bugs, messed up stuff, the chat complaints and questions and comments (some of the best one liners I have ever seen!) So in that respect, I guess I can go with "its a fun game". LOL
I asked for a refund. The game is unplayable.
I'll give it some time.
I wouldnt trust those devs for the world, wouldn't count on the game getting much better very fast, but chances are i'll try it out at some point anyway. It looks to be a sandbox type game, where player interaction determines much more then in your average mmo. That is good, and I don't mind a challenging and rather empty worlds at start one bit either.
IF you can get on to Dark and lights forums I made a thread in off topic and I copied and pasted there if you want to see it.
I am trying to figure out why some people are having huge problems with the game, while others are having no to little problems.