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OnomaOnoma Member Posts: 44
Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is?

2. Hows the pvp?

3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol)

4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter? 

5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER?

6. Whats some of the best classes now a days?

7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? )

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  • OnomaOnoma Member Posts: 44
    Oh and one more question.  Would a computer with a radeon 9200 series and half a gig of ram beable to handle swg on the lowest settings without lagging like crazy?

  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Onoma
    Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

    1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is?

    2. Hows the pvp?

    3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol)

    4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter? 

    5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER?

    6. Whats some of the best classes now a days?

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? )



    1. No. Same ammount of RP as in other RPGs
    2. Not many pvp, fights last 10-30 seconds
    3. Up to you
    4. Yes
    5. Takes a month or so
    6. Jedi, BH, medic
    7. No, cookie cutter classes
  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Onoma
    Oh and one more question.  Would a computer with a radeon 9200 series and half a gig of ram beable to handle swg on the lowest settings without lagging like crazy?



    Probably not. 1 gig is about minimum, and even radeon 9800 has some trouble in populated areas.
  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by Onoma
    Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

    1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is?

    2. Hows the pvp?

    3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol)

    4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter? 

    5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER?

    6. Whats some of the best classes now a days?

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? )


    1. No. Same ammount of RP as in other RPGs
    2. Not many pvp, fights last 10-30 seconds
    3. Up to you
    4. Yes
    5. Takes a month or so
    6. Jedi, BH, medic
    7. No, cookie cutter classes


    They are suposed to be putting in that tallent point system or some shit like that to make the classes "customizable", but we know it wont help.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Onoma
    Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

    1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is? No

    2. Hows the pvp? Boring IMO. Fun at first since there is no decay, but it becomes VERY cookie cutter.

    3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol) It is NOTHING like the old game. This isn't the CU, it's the NGE (New Game Enhacements). It's basicly a bad FPS game layed on top of poor mechanics (NPC's can shoot & run through walls) & no real depth.

    4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter?  Yup, but every BH is like every BH. Everyone has the same abilities in your class, and the classes pretty much have the same abilities now. Thye say they are going to be putting in trees to change up player abilities, but they've said that for 6 months now and it's still the same, and they've said there will only be3 trees at most.

    5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER? Easy. There are very clear quests, with a few LVL gaps here and there (levels where there are almost no quests to level with). However, these quests are BORING. Basicly, they are : Travel/Deliver/Travel or Travel/Kill/Travel. The story line is inteseting at least, but there are no choices you can make, all outcomes are the same pretty much (no light/dark side or Imp/Rebel).

    6. Whats some of the best classes now a days? Medic, Medic & Medic... they are PVE gods, and even better PVP'ers in groups. You can pretty much solo anything as a MEdic. Jedi is a close second, and BH is Third. As an example, I took my new MEdic and soloed NK-Necrosis, The geo Cave,  3 Ancient Krayts & 4 Grand Krayts in less than 30 minutes. There really isn't much challange or fun to the endgame anymore.

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? ) There are special loot robes you can loot or buy, but other than that, no. There are Buffs & clothing, but everyone is basicly the same otherwise.


    Hope this helps... let me know if you have any other questions.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Onoma
    Oh and one more question.  Would a computer with a radeon 9200 series and half a gig of ram beable to handle swg on the lowest settings without lagging like crazy?

    Well, everyone get's lag now, and no one understands why since there are less players. Your card is fine at low settings, but I would recommend more RAM.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by Onoma
    Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

    1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is?

    2. Hows the pvp?

    3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol)

    4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter? 

    5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER?

    6. Whats some of the best classes now a days?

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? )

    1. No. Same ammount of RP as in other RPGs
    2. Not many pvp, fights last 10-30 seconds
    3. Up to you
    4. Yes
    5. Takes a month or so
    6. Jedi, BH, medic
    7. No, cookie cutter classes


    They are suposed to be putting in that tallent point system or some shit like that to make the classes "customizable", but we know it wont help.


    Not flame, just a comparison: They were supposed to have the game finished & have introduced Collision Detection by now as well, and now they won't even discuss where they are with their promises.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332


    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Spathotan
    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Originally posted by OnomaJust a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is?2. Hows the pvp?3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol)4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter?  5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER?6. Whats some of the best classes now a days? 7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? )
    1. No. Same ammount of RP as in other RPGs2. Not many pvp, fights last 10-30 seconds3. Up to you4. Yes5. Takes a month or so6. Jedi, BH, medic7. No, cookie cutter classes
    They are suposed to be putting in that tallent point system or some shit like that to make the classes "customizable", but we know it wont help.
    Not flame, just a comparison: They were supposed to have the game finished & have introduced Collision Detection by now as well, and now they won't even discuss where they are with their promises.

    I have noticed the silence about collision detection myself.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • DistilerDistiler Member Posts: 416
    Publish 30

    New Collision System – This new system will improve combat line of sight as well as allow for things like true jumping and evading.

    I bet it would take a lot of time to develop this, but if it's done correctly...man, imagine force jumping peeps al over Theed XD


  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by Distiler
    Publish 30

    New Collision System – This new system will improve combat line of sight as well as allow for things like true jumping and evading.

    I bet it would take a lot of time to develop this, but if it's done correctly...man, imagine force jumping peeps al over Theed XD




    Heliostitan says, "We are going to make pvp like it is in WoW, basically just jump around and run in circles around your enemy thinking it makes a difference. We want to make pvp combat more iconic and Rogueish."


    That was preety stupid, but I couldnt resist.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • GenwaGenwa Member Posts: 156


    Originally posted by Onoma
    Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

    1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is? there is no rp at all, there r also kiddies kill the rp and call u gay when u try to rp

    2. Hows the pvp? boring and u feel stupid while playing against 10 years old kiddies with D'ARTH V'ADER names

    3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol) nge is not a system that old players cannot play, its just worse than other system and the worst game system i've ever seen in a mmo

    4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter?  bh and jedi r in game, and 7 more

    5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER? dunno how long it takes but u have to grind after lvl 30, cuz only 1-30 lvl quests r there

    6. Whats some of the best classes now a days? medic for sure

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? ) nge jedi can never ever be as strong as elder jedi



  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Fadeus

    I have noticed the silence about collision detection myself.



    People have asked, even at the summits, and they were given "off topic" answers. Now, the Mods just delete any posts made about it, and have even banned some folks for protesting about not getting a Dev answer, even in this new brave-new-world.

    I'll leave you with this: Where is Rouge_5? Seriously, he hasn't posted since about 3 weeks before E3...

    My guesses:

    • Cowering under his desk with Smed walking the halls, paddle in hand.
    • Baricaded in the Server Room, clutching a spool of "Pre-CU" DVD's moaning "MY PRECIOUS!!!"
    • Trying to get Tiggs & Raph on the phone for a work referance.
    • Working on Classic Servers.
    • Eating doughnuts in the can to improve his efficency.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Onoma
    Oh and one more question.  Would a computer with a radeon 9200 series and half a gig of ram beable to handle swg on the lowest settings without lagging like crazy?
    Well, everyone get's lag now, and no one understands why since there are less players. Your card is fine at low settings, but I would recommend more RAM.


    ? I get no lag . You need atleast 2 gigs I would say .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • xPaladinxPaladin Member UncommonPosts: 741


    Originally posted by Distiler
    Publish 30

    New Collision System – This new system will improve combat line of sight as well as allow for things like true jumping and evading.

    I bet it would take a lot of time to develop this, but if it's done correctly...man, imagine force jumping peeps al over Theed XD




    Bunnyhopping meets SWG. w00t.

    Next step will be to give everyone AWPs.

    -- xpaladin

    [MMOz]
    AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW

  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Onoma
    Oh and one more question.  Would a computer with a radeon 9200 series and half a gig of ram beable to handle swg on the lowest settings without lagging like crazy?
    Well, everyone get's lag now, and no one understands why since there are less players. Your card is fine at low settings, but I would recommend more RAM.


    ? I get no lag . You need atleast 2 gigs I would say .


    Are you serious? Have you walked into Mos Eisley when there are 50 people there, and you get NO lag? Even Obi has said he gets lag...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by Onoma
    Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

    1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is? With this it is the same way it was Pre-cu , Your best bet is to ask around . Many different servers have their own style of community . Some are Rpers , Some are PVPers some are both

    2. Hows the pvp? Again this is server dependant , Bloodfin has plenty of it and those who partake seem to enjoy themselves .  You will find little Rp on The fin though .

    3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol)  In some cases yes in some cases no , There are a lot of people who cling to both sides of this opinion .

    4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter?  Yes

    5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER? Watching a rl friend level through NGE he seems to be having no trouble . It seems to be your standard grind now WOW comes to mind . Not to much time involved given the level of your determination .

    6. Whats some of the best classes now a days?  At present there is not much difference , Outside of Particle FX . Though Jedi is still a tad different than the rest , And the only true melee class.

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? ) Yes and No , Elder Jedi have a huge advantage over others due to equipment . Yet any 2 elders are roughly the same , As Any two Respec jedi are the same. 



    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Onoma
    Oh and one more question.  Would a computer with a radeon 9200 series and half a gig of ram beable to handle swg on the lowest settings without lagging like crazy?
    Well, everyone get's lag now, and no one understands why since there are less players. Your card is fine at low settings, but I would recommend more RAM.


    ? I get no lag . You need atleast 2 gigs I would say .


    Are you serious? Have you walked into Mos Eisley when there are 50 people there, and you get NO lag? Even Obi has said he gets lag...


    I am quite serious actually 2 gigs seems to be what you need now . MY FPS usually stays between 23-30 my ping is never really above 45-50 .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SquidiSquidi Member Posts: 419


    Originally posted by Onoma
    Just a few questions before I come back to try SWG again.

    1. Are there R/P Only servers? Do they actaully r/p if there is?

    Nothing official or technical, but there are two unofficial roleplaying communities. I forget which galaxies they are though. It's like how Starsider is the unofficial space server.

    2. Hows the pvp?

    I have too little experience to comment.

    3. If I played pre-cu would I be able to coupe with the new cu now?  (based on the pre-cu fans here they seem to hate it >.> lol)

    I coped just fine, but I'm more mature about these things.

    4. Can you start out as any class you want I.E. Jedi , Bounty hunter? 

    Yes. The classes are listed on the official website.

    5. How hard is it to lvl with a BRAND SPANKING NEW CHARACTER?

    Doing the legacy quests took me about two weeks of fairly regular play (that gets to to level 40 out of 90). It's been slower since then since I've been exploring Kashyyyk and now Mustafar. Ultimately, if you really focused on it, you could probably do it in about a month - but you'd be missing a lot of the game.

    6. Whats some of the best classes now a days?

    Medics can heal, Bounty Hunters can hunt other pvp players, Jedis are a melee based class, Commandos get kick ass AOE weapons, traders and entertainers are non-combat - but some of the other classes (spy, smuggler, officer) don't seem particularly different to me. Maybe the expertise system will improve this. But I'd recommend picking one of the four combat classes I listed, as they have unique gameplay elements the others don't.

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? )

    At the moment, only slightly and that's mostly due to elder buffs. In one patch, they'll introduce combat where damage is based on item quality rather than level (and item quality buffed to compensate). In the patch after that, Jedi should be getting expertise trees to specialize in some way (one of the trees is PvP based) so even though you'd have as many points as every other Jedi, you can focus on different areas making you superior in some ways and inferior in others. In theory. There's very little information on what the expertise trees will actually be at the moment.





  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Distiler
    Publish 30

    New Collision System – This new system will improve combat line of sight as well as allow for things like true jumping and evading.

    I bet it would take a lot of time to develop this, but if it's done correctly...man, imagine force jumping peeps al over Theed XD




    How exactly does collision detection affect jumping?

    True jumping is not possible, since maps are not designed with that in mind. If they did add it, it would be horrible. Just like FPS style targeting in current system. It's there, but it would be better if it werent.

    And how exactly do other 8 classes benefit from jumping?
  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? ) Yes and No , Elder Jedi have a huge advantage over others due to equipment . Yet any 2 elders are roughly the same , As Any two Respec jedi are the same. 


    This is a commen myth that needs to be corrected:

    1. The crystal the Elders have adds a whooping total of 16 more damage than the other special crystals... wow... bet you're jealous...
    2. The robe does offer excellent protection, but doesn't not allow many buff items to work due to buff conflict. I'd make a list, but it's quite a few items. Regardless, I've yet to loose a Duel Vs and Elder while wearing a Master Cloak and using buff items, and I loose about 1/3rd while wearing my Elder Robe. Yes, Ability is part of it (Pre-CU it was called "knowing your Template"), but the field is much more even due to these conflicts.
    3. Oh, and I do NOT have an OR-Hilt... ( a special Hilt available as a loot drop on Mustafar that is FAR more unbalancing than the Elder Robe for those who don't have it)

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    7. Is it even possible for one lvl 80 jedi to be any better then another ( Armor , wepond wise? ) Yes and No , Elder Jedi have a huge advantage over others due to equipment . Yet any 2 elders are roughly the same , As Any two Respec jedi are the same. 


    This is a commen myth that needs to be corrected:

    1. The crystal the Elders have adds a whooping total of 16 more damage than the other special crystals... wow... bet you're jealous...
    2. The robe does offer excellent protection, but doesn't not allow many buff items to work due to buff conflict. I'd make a list, but it's quite a few items. Regardless, I've yet to loose a Duel Vs and Elder while wearing a Master Cloak and using buff items, and I loose about 1/3rd while wearing my Elder Robe. Yes, Ability is part of it (Pre-CU it was called "knowing your Template"), but the field is much more even due to these conflicts.
    3. Oh, and I do NOT have an OR-Hilt... ( a special Hilt available as a loot drop on Mustafar that is FAR more unbalancing than the Elder Robe for those who don't have it)

    Well I go by what people who play report on , I wouldn't know I don't play a jedi . Most of the elders I see running around , Have the Or-Hilt so go figure better armor /better weapon . I would call that an advantage not to mention better crystals .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489



    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Well I go by what people who play report on , I wouldn't know I don't play a jedi . Most of the elders I see running around , Have the Or-Hilt so go figure better armor /better weapon . I would call that an advantage not to mention better crystals .


    That's cool, I understand, I was just sharing what I know.

    For non-buff times Elder's have a clear advantage, but most PVP involves buffing items, and that's really where the tables turn.

    Someone on the SWG forums has done the math, and based on what they calculated it was about (and my memory is if'y on this):

    • The Elder Robe decreases damage taken by about 6% more than the Master Cloak. Your Level actually matters more between LVL 80-90.
    • The Elder Robe adds a special damage attack about every 16 hits that does less damage than a special.
    • The Elder Crystal adds about 1.2% more damage to an attack.
    • The Elder Robe Buff does add nice stat mods, but you can get MUCH higher in mods using a Master Cloak (I have a friend who has more Con Mods than I do with it on).
    • 66% of buff items don't work with the Elder Robe on (he apparently tested all of the buff rewards), and that includes the Savior Crystal, the best buff in the game.
    • Side Note: You can't wear a BP with the Elder Robe on, or a hat... the ONLY clothing you can wear are gloves.

    I'm not saying that it's not a cool reward, but it's far from unbalancing. The OR-Hilt on TC has 1/5th more Saber Damage than a Regular Saber, plus Mods... for those of us without Mustafar, it's a pisser... it's definatly not right that you have to buy an expansion to get the best wep of your profession, especially since the rest can be sold & bought.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by MX13


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Well I go by what people who play report on , I wouldn't know I don't play a jedi . Most of the elders I see running around , Have the Or-Hilt so go figure better armor /better weapon . I would call that an advantage not to mention better crystals .


    That's cool, I understand, I was just sharing what I know.

    For non-buff times Elder's have a clear advantage, but most PVP involves buffing items, and that's really where the tables turn.

    Someone on the SWG forums has done the math, and based on what they calculated it was about (and my memory is if'y on this):

    • The Elder Robe decreases damage taken by about 6% more than the Master Cloak. Your Level actually matters more between LVL 80-90.
    • The Elder Robe adds a special damage attack about every 16 hits that does less damage than a special.
    • The Elder Crystal adds about 1.2% more damage to an attack.
    • The Elder Robe Buff does add nice stat mods, but you can get MUCH higher in mods using a Master Cloak (I have a friend who has more Con Mods than I do with it on).
    • 66% of buff items don't work with the Elder Robe on (he apparently tested all of the buff rewards), and that includes the Savior Crystal, the best buff in the game.
    • Side Note: You can't wear a BP with the Elder Robe on, or a hat... the ONLY clothing you can wear are gloves.

    I'm not saying that it's not a cool reward, but it's far from unbalancing. The OR-Hilt on TC has 1/5th more Saber Damage than a Regular Saber, plus Mods... for those of us without Mustafar, it's a pisser... it's definatly not right that you have to buy an expansion to get the best wep of your profession, especially since the rest can be sold & bought.


    I agree with this 100% , As for the rest it makes sense . I guess I feel that it was a slap in the face that other profession that were removed and such were not given anything . But yet jedi were given rewards , Everyone who played since the first year or so should of been given something . But that is just IMO .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • ClackamasClackamas Member Posts: 776


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by MX13


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

     it's definatly not right that you have to buy an expansion to get the best wep of your profession, especially since the rest can be sold & bought.


    I agree with this 100% , As for the rest it makes sense . I guess I feel that it was a slap in the face that other profession that were removed and such were not given anything . But yet jedi were given rewards , Everyone who played since the first year or so should of been given something . But that is just IMO .


    Yet another poor decision by SOE and yet another reason why Vets are venomous over SWG.  I agree too this is 100% wrong.  The weapon should be released as a GA when the expansion back hits but not be part of the expansion back sales.
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    I was pretty sure they put the Elder buff on it's very own buff line around pub 27 - 28 to fix the conflicts it caused with other buffs?

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