Originally posted by Kormac The biggest DUH of it all (and that is no TLA) is that the topic isn't "They shouln't be bothered by my incorporating the name of Stalin in my character's name", nor "Stalin was justified". The problem is more along these lines: Use an unacceptable name once - in good faith - and get a 72 hour ban when you would willingly have changed your name. The no-tolerance line is defined in the EULA, and their decision as such is acceptable. Reading EULA's might be a good trick, even if it is more often a waste of time. So, it is the OP's fault for not reading the EULA. To an extent. There is one other thing to consider: Villains as a theme, soviet references as an accepted part of the game. Unless Stalin is somewhere explicitly defined as "illegal" the rule you have broken (and are immediately banned for) is fleshed out on the fly. Almost like rolling down the highway, looking at that BLANK speed limit sign. When you hit seventy the cops overtake you and define the speed limit to sixty. He could have stayed on the safe side, but the point is that banning (even temporarily) on that basis is poor policy. Infractions that could be accidental should go with warning and correction. (Although it renders the sign useless, I wouldn't object if the policeman said "Speed limit here's sixty, you go slower from now on and I don't want to see you hitting seventy again.") The point didn't really get across to the COV staff either... "I am sorry to read that you are upset over the decision to remove Stalin's HAMMER from the game." I mean... I hope that the complaint wasn't so poorly expressed as to actually give the impression you were trying to keep your name rather than lift the ban (or whatever you were trying, OP). Because you have, during this thread and the last thread on the topic, made it very clear you had no objection to changing your name - only to sitting out a 72 hour penalty for having broken a loosely defined rule. And it doesn't make any difference if it "should be obvious" that Stalin is a poor choice. 70 mph is fast, but hey - it's the highway? Similar problem: I have a friend who wears a coat which he thinks looks really good. He also knows that some german organization is associated with similar articles of clothing. Does he think anybody's going to care? No. Do they? Yes. Those who are close to actual victims, and those who are old enough to remember do react. To me it is just a coat. Not saying that the Stalin reference isn't obvious, but implying that its significance is no longer universally understood.
Thank you!!
Finally someone has actually READ what i have posted and has understood my point!!
It was NEVER about the name itself it was about the enforcement of policy without using common sense.I have stated over and over that i GLADLY would have changed it had i been asked.
NCSOFT it seems has a no tolerance policy concerning CERTAIN names.On countless occasions i have seen The hulk and Wolverine.Ive actualy seen Wolverine 2 in game just before i was banned.This is AFTER the lawsuit with Marvel comics.
I even responded to the email TELLING them i would have gladly changed my name had i been asked in game.Dont tell me they dont have the technology to enter the game OR send a tell in game to a specific player.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Originally posted by Puoltry I actually CHOSE to spell it that way.It was a unique and different way to spell it.Looks like it worked you noticed it right?
Being noticed for something like that isn't a necessarily a good thing. First thing I thought was that you couldn't spell. I'm sure I'm not alone.
But anyway, let the spoltlight go back on you.
You should stop being so nitpicky and stay on subject.Im sorry that you feel the need to better your self by pointing out how bad my spelling is.
That is actually quite sad on your part.
All it does is validate EVERY point ive made within this thread.But go ahead and throw out some more insults if you feel the need.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Originally posted by baff I doubt very much whether Stalin considered all those he sent to the mines his "own people". A harsh leader for harsh times. As bad as he was, he was a lot nicer than the other alternatives at the time. Also our greatest Ally.
Do we hold up Teddy Roosevelts name as a symbol of hate? Or Henry VIII? Or Pope Urban II? Has anyone thought to remove the faces of all the genocidal presidents from Mount Rushmore? Stalin is singled out for demonisation, because he is the enemy of the west in the Cold War, not for his actual deeds, which are no worse than the deeds of our own national leaders and heroes in our histories. There is too much propaganda involved.
While I agree Stalin isn't really as bad as some people in this thread make him out to be, calling any former president "genocidal" is obvious sensationalism. Why even post this garbage? What race did Teddy Roosevelt want to exterminate, the Spanish?
Originally posted by baff Originally posted by Signe If you had named your character Atilla or Genghis, I don't think anyone would care. The people and families of those they hurt are long dead. Unfortunately, in the case of those such as Hitler and Stalin, what they did still affects people to this day. There are many still alive who lived through it and watched friends and family die in gulags or during the famine that was a result of his politica practices. The sort of strife and damage caused by people such as Stalin and Hitler might not diminish for generations. That name might have sounded clever, and quite possibly was, but your common sense must have, at least, given you a wee bit of pause, no? Those are the sorts of voices in your head that are worth listening to. Try again in 100 years or something... it's likely no one will care by then.
Sorry Signe but how many of these people are playing online games?
You survived the gulag and are now playing COH? Name names.
Use your own head, this is utter nonsense. There are precisiely zero 90 year old soviet gulag survivors in COH.
Should we ban all war movies and WW2 games too? What about books or comics with Stalins name? Shall I destroy my copy of Command & Conquer: Red Alert?
How about history classes? Perhaps a gluag victim could attend one of those also?
Lets burn all the books!
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This is a very flimsy excuse indeed.
The only valid excuse that I see is that people might start flaming in game. For myself, it is those that flame in this circumstance that would be stupid. Just a load of people with nothing better to do than try and inflict their moral high ground on other people about a subject which doesn't upset them or disturb their lives one iota, other than providing them with an easy target. Very very poor.
Point taken. No need to be such a snarky plonker about it, though.
Originally posted by baff Originally posted by treed0223 Originally posted by baff I doubt very much whether Stalin considered all those he sent to the mines his "own people". A harsh leader for harsh times. As bad as he was, he was a lot nicer than the other alternatives at the time. Also our greatest Ally.
Yes, Stalin was a necesarry ally in WW2. However harsh to me has a different definition. I think that putting the Japanese in internment camps was extremely harsh. They didn't deserve it. You call Stalin's purges of tens of millions of people "harsh". And you even condone his actions of putting millions in "labor camps", which were basically death camps. How can you defend this man? He killed people based on their supposed political beliefs. He killed them out of paranoia and fear. He was a coward.
Hang on, the Japanese didn't deserve internment camps?
Have you heard about the Japanese run internment camps? Do you have some glamourous ideal that Japanese were the kind of warm beautiful pacifists they are today?
Japan and Russia are traditional enemies. It's was Japans decision not to attack Russia that freed up it's eastern Armies and allowed it to reinforce Stalingrad, dooming Germany.
How many Chinese were killed in WW2? You can tell me how many Russians and Americans and Germans. But the Chinese? No one bothered to count.
We are living in a different world today. Putting Japanese people living in America, where the war never reached, in internment camps wasn't harsh at all. I bet they were treated well. Japanese people hadn't raped and butchered their way across America sending all they captured for torture or to death camps. The circumstances of Japanese internments in the U.S. during WW2 were not anything like the same as in the eastern front. They do not compare. America was never under threat, it's civilians never abused or systematically eradicated. Different worlds. The same standards do not apply. You will notice after 9/11 America treats it's captured enemies somewhat differently.
Stalins labour camps were not "basically death camps". There were plenty of "death camps" around, but Stalin's were labour camps, prisoners were allowed to work no more than 8 hours a day and were not allowed to be placed on reduced rations, The facist Ukranians on the other hand, ran death camps where the people were systematically starved to death and used for medical experiments. The Germans gassed them.
And yes Stalin probably did kill people for their political beliefs and out of paranoia and fear. So did the Pope. What's your point? These are extremely common reasons to kill people. Today we still kill people who are the enemies of democracy or terrorists who we fear. Why is it only evil if Stalin does it?
@Analfaye, Yes, bugger about the Poles after the war, not much we could do. That wasn't a fight we could have won. Pretty much, what you describe is the beginning of the cold war and this is the point where Stalin's history starts to blend with propaganda. Did Stalin want to overrun all of Europe? maybe. If he did, it's very strange why he didn't attempt to take a totally undefended Austria. Stalin had the same primary motivation we all did. Revenge.
Yes, I'm so sure thousands of Japanese Americans wanted to be rounded up like cattle and put into camps when they had come to America for freedom. And also I never stated anything about the Japanese run internment camps, so I have no idea why your going off on that tangent. I honestly don't know what point your trying to make with Russia and Japan being traditional enemies either, because I never mentioned anything about that. You proved my point by stating that the Japanese internment camps weren't nearly as bad as the Eastern front, thanks bud. And your example of the Chinese, yes many died during WW2 and the cultural revolution at the hands of Mao, and of course it wasn't right.
Seems to me you are trying to justify Stalin's actions, or attrocities I should say by comparing him to other leaders who have done similar things. Just because someone else did wrong does not make another wrong right. Imprisoning people against their will for doing no crime other than being born of a certain nationality is to say the least harsh. When someone takes that even further and forces people to work or put to death against their will it is a crime against humanity and it is not justifiable by saying "Oh this other leader killed more".
Also, I never stated that it was only Stalin who was evil for doing his deeds. I was just merely staying on topic of the thread and not wandering off onto other people who have commited similar attrocities. If someone named their character Hitler, or Mao, we'd have another thread wouldn't we?
Wow... this thread. Definitely a heavy subject to be found on a forum about MMORPGS! But, I do feel compelled to at least give my point of view on the matter. I must say that I am not entirely surprised that some feel Stalin "wasn't entirely bad as some people in this thread make him out to be". There are things that history text books do not write of. While on purpose, ignorance, or simply deemed not important enough, I can not answer. And there are things that we ARE taught. Which is instilled in us.
Some call what that horrible monster did the "Forgotten Holocaust". Indeed, forgotten is a most appropriate term. Forgotten because in all the people I know personally, no one really even heard of "Forced Famine". All they know is that Stalin was kinda bad. If asked who Yezhov was or of Vorkuta, they do not know.
Estimates of the amount of people Stalin murdered are varied. Numbers can range from eleven million all the way to thirty million. The problem is, this information was never recorded. Stalin made sure of this. Russian military would go into Ukrainian farms, murder, kill, burn, dissect, rape, and destroy, - ukrainians, livestock, houses, daughters, sons, etc. Whole extended families were wiped out in one huge bon fire. Children entered into concentration camps. Yes, Stalin was kinda bad. I have no family on my father's side thanks to this maniac being "kinda bad". The forced famine caused mothers to decide who is closer to death? My son or my daughter? Which should I keep alive for one more day with this last piece of bread? Now take that with over seven million individual stories of demise. On top of that, at times, it is hard conversing of this with people as they are so disconnected with it, they dont care. I suppose why should they? We arent really taught of this topic in school. I understand this, and have learned that others wont or cant feel that pit in the stomach that I do when that monster's name is mentioned. In fact we are taught that some people called Stalin "Uncle Joe".
Alot of cultures have their atrocities. Those directly involved will be the ones who feel most passionate about it. Comparing them with each other can be moot sometimes though. Answering questions like "whom was worse Stalin or Hitler?" is impossible. The fact remains, death on such a scale is a horrible thing.
If anyone here wishes to truly learn more of who Stalin really was do a google on "Forced Famine", "Collectivization". There is a documentary (though rather obscure) called "Harvest of Despair". There is also a book by that name, about the same topic, however I have yet to read it.
Yes, I realize there will be people who will name their toons after Stalin and others to justify it as freedom of speech. I will respect this, perhaps even fight for their right to do so, as I suppose there is no reason for others to feel about Stalin as I do. Others can perceive him as simply some name in a history book that "did bad things".
"...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"
Originally posted by Greslore Wow... this thread. Definitely a heavy subject to be found on a forum about MMORPGS! But, I do feel compelled to at least give my point of view on the matter. I must say that I am not entirely surprised that some feel Stalin "wasn't entirely bad as some people in this thread make him out to be". There are things that history text books do not write of. While on purpose, ignorance, or simply deemed not important enough, I can not answer. And there are things that we ARE taught. Which is instilled in us.
Some call what that horrible monster did the "Forgotten Holocaust". Indeed, forgotten is a most appropriate term. Forgotten because in all the people I know personally, no one really even heard of "Forced Famine". All they know is that Stalin was kinda bad. If asked who Yezhov was or of Vorkuta, they do not know.
Estimates of the amount of people Stalin murdered are varied. Numbers can range from eleven million all the way to thirty million. The problem is, this information was never recorded. Stalin made sure of this. Russian military would go into Ukrainian farms, murder, kill, burn, dissect, rape, and destroy, - ukrainians, livestock, houses, daughters, sons, etc. Whole extended families were wiped out in one huge bon fire. Children entered into concentration camps. Yes, Stalin was kinda bad. I have no family on my father's side thanks to this maniac being "kinda bad". The forced famine caused mothers to decide who is closer to death? My son or my daughter? Which should I keep alive for one more day with this last piece of bread? Now take that with over seven million individual stories of demise. On top of that, at times, it is hard conversing of this with people as they are so disconnected with it, they dont care. I suppose why should they? We arent really taught of this topic in school. I understand this, and have learned that others wont or cant feel that pit in the stomach that I do when that monster's name is mentioned. In fact we are taught that some people called Stalin "Uncle Joe".
Alot of cultures have their atrocities. Those directly involved will be the ones who feel most passionate about it. Comparing them with each other can be moot sometimes though. Answering questions like "whom was worse Stalin or Hitler?" is impossible. The fact remains, death on such a scale is a horrible thing.
If anyone here wishes to truly learn more of who Stalin really was do a google on "Forced Famine", "Collectivization". There is a documentary (though rather obscure) called "Harvest of Despair". There is also a book by that name, about the same topic, however I have yet to read it.
Yes, I realize there will be people who will name their toons after Stalin and others to justify it as freedom of speech. I will respect this, perhaps even fight for their right to do so, as I suppose there is no reason for others to feel about Stalin as I do. Others can perceive him as simply some name in a history book that "did bad things".
Originally posted by Puoltry You should stop being so nitpicky and stay on subject.Im sorry that you feel the need to better your self by pointing out how bad my spelling is.That is actually quite sad on your part.All it does is validate EVERY point ive made within this thread.But go ahead and throw out some more insults if you feel the need.
Actually, what it spotlights is you, which is precisely what you want. I'm merely feeding you.
You brought your issue here, so don't be surprised if people bring it up for the much ado about nothing that it is.
To the following question I desire a short and consise answer: What topic was initially brought up in this thread?
The question goes out to all of you, with the exception of Puoltry, because he started the topic and I know he knows what it is about.
PS: The OP isn't very clear on his actual point, and you may have to read the thread he is referring to in order to find out what he means. (Either that, or you can read my previous post in here)
The future: Adellion Common flaw in MMORPGs: The ability to die casually Advantages of Adellion: Dynamic world (affected by its inhabitants) Player-driven world (beasts won't be an endless supply of mighty swords, gold will come from mines, not dragonly dens) Player-driven world (Leadership is the privilege of a player, not an npc)
Originally posted by Puoltry You should stop being so nitpicky and stay on subject.Im sorry that you feel the need to better your self by pointing out how bad my spelling is.That is actually quite sad on your part.All it does is validate EVERY point ive made within this thread.But go ahead and throw out some more insults if you feel the need.
Actually, what it spotlights is you, which is precisely what you want. I'm merely feeding you.
You brought your issue here, so don't be surprised if people bring it up for the much ado about nothing that it is.
Yup i did start the topic so stay on subject.Let me remind what the subject is and isnt.
It is about the NCSOFT naming policy and how it seems that the devs are making the rules as they go despite what is in the EULA for COV.
What it isnt about is how i spell my message board name.
Nor is it about if Stalin was a wonderful human being or not.Other people have made it about that not me.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Originally posted by Puoltry You should stop being so nitpicky and stay on subject.Im sorry that you feel the need to better your self by pointing out how bad my spelling is.That is actually quite sad on your part.All it does is validate EVERY point ive made within this thread.But go ahead and throw out some more insults if you feel the need.
Actually, what it spotlights is you, which is precisely what you want. I'm merely feeding you.
You brought your issue here, so don't be surprised if people bring it up for the much ado about nothing that it is.
are all of your posts just like this one? so far, every post you've made that i've seen has been flame after flame. i have yet to see a post where you actually contributed to the discussion or the actual thread.
swykac.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
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Finally someone has actually READ what i have posted and has understood my point!!
It was NEVER about the name itself it was about the enforcement of policy without using common sense.I have stated over and over that i GLADLY would have changed it had i been asked.
NCSOFT it seems has a no tolerance policy concerning CERTAIN names.On countless occasions i have seen The hulk and Wolverine.Ive actualy seen Wolverine 2 in game just before i was banned.This is AFTER the lawsuit with Marvel comics.
I even responded to the email TELLING them i would have gladly changed my name had i been asked in game.Dont tell me they dont have the technology to enter the game OR send a tell in game to a specific player.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
Being noticed for something like that isn't a necessarily a good thing. First thing I thought was that you couldn't spell. I'm sure I'm not alone.
But anyway, let the spoltlight go back on you.
You should stop being so nitpicky and stay on subject.Im sorry that you feel the need to better your self by pointing out how bad my spelling is.
That is actually quite sad on your part.
All it does is validate EVERY point ive made within this thread.But go ahead and throw out some more insults if you feel the need.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
While I agree Stalin isn't really as bad as some people in this thread make him out to be, calling any former president "genocidal" is obvious sensationalism. Why even post this garbage? What race did Teddy Roosevelt want to exterminate, the Spanish?
Sorry Signe but how many of these people are playing online games?
You survived the gulag and are now playing COH? Name names.
Use your own head, this is utter nonsense. There are precisiely zero 90 year old soviet gulag survivors in COH.
Should we ban all war movies and WW2 games too? What about books or comics with Stalins name? Shall I destroy my copy of Command & Conquer: Red Alert?
How about history classes? Perhaps a gluag victim could attend one of those also?
Lets burn all the books!
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This is a very flimsy excuse indeed.
The only valid excuse that I see is that people might start flaming in game. For myself, it is those that flame in this circumstance that would be stupid. Just a load of people with nothing better to do than try and inflict their moral high ground on other people about a subject which doesn't upset them or disturb their lives one iota, other than providing them with an easy target. Very very poor.
Point taken. No need to be such a snarky plonker about it, though.
Hang on, the Japanese didn't deserve internment camps?
Have you heard about the Japanese run internment camps? Do you have some glamourous ideal that Japanese were the kind of warm beautiful pacifists they are today?
Japan and Russia are traditional enemies. It's was Japans decision not to attack Russia that freed up it's eastern Armies and allowed it to reinforce Stalingrad, dooming Germany.
How many Chinese were killed in WW2? You can tell me how many Russians and Americans and Germans. But the Chinese? No one bothered to count.
We are living in a different world today. Putting Japanese people living in America, where the war never reached, in internment camps wasn't harsh at all. I bet they were treated well. Japanese people hadn't raped and butchered their way across America sending all they captured for torture or to death camps. The circumstances of Japanese internments in the U.S. during WW2 were not anything like the same as in the eastern front. They do not compare. America was never under threat, it's civilians never abused or systematically eradicated. Different worlds. The same standards do not apply. You will notice after 9/11 America treats it's captured enemies somewhat differently.
Stalins labour camps were not "basically death camps". There were plenty of "death camps" around, but Stalin's were labour camps, prisoners were allowed to work no more than 8 hours a day and were not allowed to be placed on reduced rations, The facist Ukranians on the other hand, ran death camps where the people were systematically starved to death and used for medical experiments. The Germans gassed them.
And yes Stalin probably did kill people for their political beliefs and out of paranoia and fear. So did the Pope. What's your point? These are extremely common reasons to kill people. Today we still kill people who are the enemies of democracy or terrorists who we fear. Why is it only evil if Stalin does it?
@Analfaye, Yes, bugger about the Poles after the war, not much we could do. That wasn't a fight we could have won. Pretty much, what you describe is the beginning of the cold war and this is the point where Stalin's history starts to blend with propaganda. Did Stalin want to overrun all of Europe? maybe. If he did, it's very strange why he didn't attempt to take a totally undefended Austria. Stalin had the same primary motivation we all did. Revenge.
Yes, I'm so sure thousands of Japanese Americans wanted to be rounded up like cattle and put into camps when they had come to America for freedom. And also I never stated anything about the Japanese run internment camps, so I have no idea why your going off on that tangent. I honestly don't know what point your trying to make with Russia and Japan being traditional enemies either, because I never mentioned anything about that.
You proved my point by stating that the Japanese internment camps weren't nearly as bad as the Eastern front, thanks bud. And your example of the Chinese, yes many died during WW2 and the cultural revolution at the hands of Mao, and of course it wasn't right.
Seems to me you are trying to justify Stalin's actions, or attrocities I should say by comparing him to other leaders who have done similar things. Just because someone else did wrong does not make another wrong right. Imprisoning people against their will for doing no crime other than being born of a certain nationality is to say the least harsh. When someone takes that even further and forces people to work or put to death against their will it is a crime against humanity and it is not justifiable by saying "Oh this other leader killed more".
Also, I never stated that it was only Stalin who was evil for doing his deeds. I was just merely staying on topic of the thread and not wandering off onto other people who have commited similar attrocities. If someone named their character Hitler, or Mao, we'd have another thread wouldn't we?
Wow... this thread. Definitely a heavy subject to be found on a forum about MMORPGS! But, I do feel compelled to at least give my point of view on the matter. I must say that I am not entirely surprised that some feel Stalin "wasn't entirely bad as some people in this thread make him out to be". There are things that history text books do not write of. While on purpose, ignorance, or simply deemed not important enough, I can not answer. And there are things that we ARE taught. Which is instilled in us.
Some call what that horrible monster did the "Forgotten Holocaust". Indeed, forgotten is a most appropriate term. Forgotten because in all the people I know personally, no one really even heard of "Forced Famine". All they know is that Stalin was kinda bad. If asked who Yezhov was or of Vorkuta, they do not know.
Estimates of the amount of people Stalin murdered are varied. Numbers can range from eleven million all the way to thirty million. The problem is, this information was never recorded. Stalin made sure of this. Russian military would go into Ukrainian farms, murder, kill, burn, dissect, rape, and destroy, - ukrainians, livestock, houses, daughters, sons, etc. Whole extended families were wiped out in one huge bon fire. Children entered into concentration camps. Yes, Stalin was kinda bad. I have no family on my father's side thanks to this maniac being "kinda bad". The forced famine caused mothers to decide who is closer to death? My son or my daughter? Which should I keep alive for one more day with this last piece of bread? Now take that with over seven million individual stories of demise. On top of that, at times, it is hard conversing of this with people as they are so disconnected with it, they dont care. I suppose why should they? We arent really taught of this topic in school. I understand this, and have learned that others wont or cant feel that pit in the stomach that I do when that monster's name is mentioned. In fact we are taught that some people called Stalin "Uncle Joe".
Alot of cultures have their atrocities. Those directly involved will be the ones who feel most passionate about it. Comparing them with each other can be moot sometimes though. Answering questions like "whom was worse Stalin or Hitler?" is impossible. The fact remains, death on such a scale is a horrible thing.
If anyone here wishes to truly learn more of who Stalin really was do a google on "Forced Famine", "Collectivization". There is a documentary (though rather obscure) called "Harvest of Despair". There is also a book by that name, about the same topic, however I have yet to read it.
Yes, I realize there will be people who will name their toons after Stalin and others to justify it as freedom of speech. I will respect this, perhaps even fight for their right to do so, as I suppose there is no reason for others to feel about Stalin as I do. Others can perceive him as simply some name in a history book that "did bad things".
"...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"
Actually, what it spotlights is you, which is precisely what you want. I'm merely feeding you.
You brought your issue here, so don't be surprised if people bring it up for the much ado about nothing that it is.
To the following question I desire a short and consise answer: What topic was initially brought up in this thread?
The question goes out to all of you, with the exception of Puoltry, because he started the topic and I know he knows what it is about.
PS: The OP isn't very clear on his actual point, and you may have to read the thread he is referring to in order to find out what he means. (Either that, or you can read my previous post in here)
The future: Adellion
Common flaw in MMORPGs: The ability to die casually
Advantages of Adellion: Dynamic world (affected by its inhabitants)
Player-driven world (beasts won't be an endless supply of mighty swords, gold will come from mines, not dragonly dens)
Player-driven world (Leadership is the privilege of a player, not an npc)
Actually, what it spotlights is you, which is precisely what you want. I'm merely feeding you.
You brought your issue here, so don't be surprised if people bring it up for the much ado about nothing that it is.
Yup i did start the topic so stay on subject.Let me remind what the subject is and isnt.
It is about the NCSOFT naming policy and how it seems that the devs are making the rules as they go despite what is in the EULA for COV.
What it isnt about is how i spell my message board name.
Nor is it about if Stalin was a wonderful human being or not.Other people have made it about that not me.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
Actually, what it spotlights is you, which is precisely what you want. I'm merely feeding you.
You brought your issue here, so don't be surprised if people bring it up for the much ado about nothing that it is.
are all of your posts just like this one? so far, every post you've made that i've seen has been flame after flame. i have yet to see a post where you actually contributed to the discussion or the actual thread.
swykac.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?