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To the Haters out there

laharilahari Member Posts: 12

You know guys, its pretty lame to spend all that energy here spewing the negative comments toward not only the game, but the people that play the game.

Sure everyone has a right to an opinion, however how many times must someone kick a dead dog? Also just because one has a right to an opinion doesn't make that opinion matter.

DnL came out the other day. Sure it is missing features and it has bugs. Many seem to act as if no other MMO or game has ever launched without issues. So now we have a game loaded with players being rated by a handful of haters. The rank is what 3.7 now? There were a lil over 300 votes? come one. I know there are more than 300 player in game and able to enjoy themselves.

The moment someone shows positive support to anything they are instantly labled 'fanbois' and flamed. How mature and helpful. Many of those posting have never even logged into the game. Many of the problems experienced by some people are due to computer issues of the user side.

Sure DnL has bugs, some people have framerate issues. Some features are not yet included and the billing side is a bit to be desired. However, posting on every forum how bad a game is and how much you hate it and every person that plays it does nothing.

I believe the spirit of the forums here and at a games site is to provide a platform for people to express useful information to the community. Instead of "This game is the worst game I ever played cuz the graphics suck" you could say you are having framerate issues and list your specs. Problems are solved by gathering useful information.

So many people are very harsh and pointed in their comments, then wonder why they get no response. The really clever ones try one civil attempt after multiple heated ones, then justify themselves by saying they were trying to be civil.

The game isn't everything is can be. Maybe it will never be, maybe it will. Its about time someone stood up to the flamers and the 'hatebois' The loud few.

Glory IS Eternal

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  • WallyWally Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Put down the crack pipe.
  • laharilahari Member Posts: 12


    Originally posted by Wally
    Put down the crack pipe.

    Is that the best you can come up with? Wow!
  • laharilahari Member Posts: 12


    Originally posted by thePREdiger
    since how long are u with DnL and know the whole story since 2003 ?
    I dont think so - so dont come here lecturing what is good and what is bad about comments towards DnL.

    95% of the comments and ratings are very legit.


    So you assume I am some noob that just bought his pretty lil DnL account? I have been a member of the DnL community far longer than you think. I know about the delays, the missing features ect. I know about SoG and all the past and current issues. My opinion has as much weight as anyone elses here.

    The negative feedback here is not helpful as it does nothing to resolve anything. It is only geared toward spewing hate. Sure, if you hate something about a game, then state it. But the haters here have become fanatics.

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.

  • laharilahari Member Posts: 12


    Originally posted by blacksac
    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.


    Wow

    That was intersting

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045


    Originally posted by thePREdiger


    Guess why most of the guys from 2003 are gone today?




    Well I go almost back that far, and I've seen it differently, although I agree with you on the beta 
  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Ok as someone who ranked this game as a potential success last year i would be MORE then happy to hear anything positive about this game to make me buy it.

    So far this is what i heard,please correct me if wrong.

    It cost over $50 to get it.Now considering there is no retail box,no nice looking dvd,no nice maunal this is ranking as the most expensive mmorpg ever.Its download only .

    Lag is horrible.People with cross fire/sli systems are reporting fps of <10 fps.

    Choppy graphics.Outdated look up close.

    Loads of missing features.

    Horrible grind.Starting at even early levels exp is slow.

    Buggy interface.

    Buggy AI.

    Non existant CSR.

    Now ofc i think everyone here will be happy for you to tell us whats good about the game as we only hear bad things.So enlighten us and hey might win some reputation back for the game.

    But so far the only people to say anything good about the game is that it has potential.Well having and been is 2 totally different things.

  • SirAvatarSirAvatar Member Posts: 104


    Originally posted by blacksac

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.


    To the darkside it leads... - Yoda

    Sorry, couldn't help myself


    but other then that, I agree...

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    Wildlife Preserver :mrgreen:
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  • leashmastleashmast Member Posts: 19



    Originally posted by blacksac

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.



    There are none so blind as those who will not see.
  • NSberserkNSberserk Member Posts: 77


    Originally posted by lahari


    Sure DnL has bugs, some people have framerate issues. Some features are not yet included and the billing side is a bit to be desired. However, posting on every forum how bad a game is and how much you hate it and every person that plays it does nothing.


    1-DnL does not have bugs. DnL is ridden with bugs.
    http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63119

    2-It's not some people who have framerate issues, it's 70% of them.
    http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1741

    3-Some features are not included? From the mouth of Vuuar only 70% of the game is ready. That's not some features, that's a third of the game that's not ready.

    4-Billing side  is a bit to be desired? That's a little light on facts. Check the forums and count the number of posts pertaining to Click and Buy.

  • SirAvatarSirAvatar Member Posts: 104


    Originally posted by leashmast


    Originally posted by blacksac

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.



    There are none so blind as those who will not see.


    Very true words indeed.

    You know, it works both ways, do you?

    Ranger @ Heart
    Wildlife Preserver :mrgreen:
    Dariane Tracker

  • CoHsucksCoHsucks Member Posts: 197

    Sounds like a bunch more excuses that failed developers like to use, in fact Vuaar(sp?) did use.

    -Its the players fault.

    Thats what all bad games developers and their legions of drooling unintelligent fanbois always fall back on.

    "It must be your computer, not our engine"

    "This isn't WoW, we don't have that kind of money" -Then don't try to play with the big boys if you knew going in you were out-matched.

    "It will get better, you have no patience"

    "You are just a hater, you are just a whiner"

    Lol! Everygame these spineless fools will spout the same drivel. That, ladies and gentlemen, is why devs like Farlan keep getting away with blatent lies, deceit, and plain 'ol ripping off gamers. Because this legion of blinded trogs will always be there to blame you for the game/devs failers.

    Get with it people, this game is so blatently bad, its actually hard to believe people not only like it, but are defending it as a good game.

  • leashmastleashmast Member Posts: 19

    Very true words indeed.

    You know, it works both ways, do you?



    Yes Sunshine, I know it works both ways - not that hard to understand.

    I have also noticed how you are trying to make this forum unreadable with your multicoloured, multi-quoted, pointless posts.

    If you are friends or related to the Devs of DnL, then I can understand. If you are being paid, make sure you get your wages upfront.
  • MikeMongerMikeMonger Member Posts: 196


    Originally posted by leashmast
    Very true words indeed.

    You know, it works both ways, do you?



    Yes Sunshine, I know it works both ways - not that hard to understand.

    I have also noticed how you are trying to make this forum unreadable with your multicoloured, multi-quoted, pointless posts.

    If you are friends or related to the Devs of DnL, then I can understand. If you are being paid, make sure you get your wages upfront.


    Heh heh.

    The guy's either a troll, or a flaming hypocrite.  He accuses all the so-called "haters" of being blind to the joys and wonders of DnL, while at the same time refusing to acknowledge the perfectly valid, reasonable, and well thought out opinions of those so-called "haters".


  • NabatamNabatam Member Posts: 43



    Originally posted by blacksac

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.


    This is the most santimonious thing I have read in a long time (and I read a lot). The fact that you even dare to say it is appalling. You may be some mother Theresa in the RL, but even if that was the case you have no right to judge in those harsh terms (Mother Theresa certainly wouldn't have done it).

    Basically, you are implying that people who don't like the game are evil and overall bad people.

    You know... there is something slightly "cultish" going on in parts of the  DnL community these days, and words like these only reinforce that impression.
  • SirAvatarSirAvatar Member Posts: 104


    Originally posted by leashmast

    Very true words indeed.

    You know, it works both ways, do you?



    Yes Sunshine, I know it works both ways - not that hard to understand.

    I have also noticed how you are trying to make this forum unreadable with your multicoloured, multi-quoted, pointless posts.

    If you are friends or related to the Devs of DnL, then I can understand. If you are being paid, make sure you get your wages upfront.


    Sorry, I'm no sunshine...

    As for multi-colored - it's to seperate the paragrapshj people have said. I can't help it that it looks a bit ... overdone on these forums.

    And lastly, I'm not a friend of the devs nor do i get paid...

    Ranger @ Heart
    Wildlife Preserver :mrgreen:
    Dariane Tracker

  • ValharanValharan Member Posts: 190

    6 years. Two words sum it all up. Point to any game that has had 6 years of work on it and I'll show you a game that destroys this one in almost every way. The only good thing about this game is the landscape and that was done with 3rd party software. Everything in game that is 100% Farlan is broken and sub par.

    There have been several patches and the fix's in them are small and mostly meaningless, sure they are patching things quickly but it's things that shouldnt have even been there on release. 6 years. Two words sum it all up. They are going to need another 2 years of patching/fixing this game and a complete overhaul of the character creation process, character models, skill system (50% of it doesnt even work) and combat systems alone. The combat system aside from being boring actually saps enjoyment from this game.

    6 years. And this is what you get. In the end two words sum it all up.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by lahari

     Many of those posting have never even logged into the game.


    Umm, where do you get that idea? How can you prove that?
    Would it indeed surprise you that many here post in a different name than the name they use in game? Its another lame excuse by the fanbois to discredit the "hateboi" threads.
    Give it up, you may well be shocked to the marrow to find out who these ppl really are IN THE GAME.
  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783


    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by lahari

     Many of those posting have never even logged into the game.

    Umm, where do you get that idea? How can you prove that?
    Would it indeed surprise you that many here post in a different name than the name they use in game? Its another lame excuse by the fanbois to discredit the "hateboi" threads.
    Give it up, you may well be shocked to the marrow to find out who these ppl really are IN THE GAME.


    rofl mybe couse of all you 20 or so "hatebois" already stated that after SoG/refounds  you would not even consider to touch the game.


    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by lahari


    Sure DnL has bugs, some people have framerate issues. Some features are not yet included and the billing side is a bit to be desired. However, posting on every forum how bad a game is and how much you hate it and every person that plays it does nothing.

    Except that the truth of the matter is out there. Seeing the praise only posts that contain nothing but glorified workarounds for the problems and excuses for the downright incompetence and obvious ineptness of the developers of this game  is misleading as hell. The truth hurts.m that is very apparent.

    I believe the spirit of the forums here and at a games site is to provide a platform for people to express useful information to the community. Instead of "This game is the worst game I ever played cuz the graphics suck" you could say you are having framerate issues and list your specs. Problems are solved by gathering useful information.

    Exposing the farce that the fanbois wish to tout is indeed "useful" information. And I suggest you read the rest of the reasons why this is the worst game instead of just one - one which btw- was their ONLY good point until they had to redo the coding so the game would at least load for some ppl. The "optimizing" of it further destroyed it. Indeed, laying the truth of the state of the game and alllllllll the bs coming from the fanbois-who-are-mods-who-are-developers is indeed informative to alllll of the mmo community.

    So many people are very harsh and pointed in their comments, then wonder why they get no response. The really clever ones try one civil attempt after multiple heated ones, then justify themselves by saying they were trying to be civil.
    So now lets continue with flaming the flamers eh?. I dont see anyone wondering why there wasnt a response.....they are aplenty.  You wouldnt see the exact same thing you are complaining about the hateboi you are doing yourself. A definite DNL sympton.

    The game isn't everything is can be. Maybe it will never be, maybe it will. Its about time someone stood up to the flamers and the 'hatebois' The loud few.
    Glory IS Eternal

    LONG LIVE THE ALMIGHTY POTENTIAL!!!!


  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by blacksac

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.



    Ayup... TRUTH HURTS.
  • McShaneMcShane Member Posts: 57


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by lahari

     Many of those posting have never even logged into the game.

    Umm, where do you get that idea? How can you prove that?
    Would it indeed surprise you that many here post in a different name than the name they use in game? Its another lame excuse by the fanbois to discredit the "hateboi" threads.
    Give it up, you may well be shocked to the marrow to find out who these ppl really are IN THE GAME.


    rofl mybe couse of all you 20 or so "hatebois" already stated that after SoG/refounds  you would not even consider to touch the game.





    SoG and DnL ARE THE SAME THING!  You still can't admit that???

    ...I can't believe I share the same planet with some of these people.


  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by lahari
    ...

     Many of those posting have never even logged into the game. Many of the problems experienced by some people are due to computer issues of the user side....


    I think that is such a blind statement.

    Did you even know that refundees can STILL login to D&L if they so chose to?
    Maybe you should ask Farlan about that.

    I have emailed Serpico about it but he does not want to answer my questions.

    As for most of the problems are the palyers computer issues:
    You have to be joking right?

    There are many players that are playing D&L that has EXCELLENT PC Setups that are having issues with D&L.
    It is NOT the players PC setups as Farlan keeps trying to say since SoG!


    This is my Current Desktop Config:

    Asus P4S8X
    Intel P4 2.4b
    ATI X850XT 256mb AGP (w/ Catalyst v6.3)
    1.7gb DDR RAM
    120gb 7200rpm HDD
    Audigy1
    Logitech G15/G5/Z5500

    This is my newly purchased Laptop Specs:


    Sager 5760
    17" WSXGA+
    Intel T2500 Core Duo (Yonah)
    Nvidia go7900GTX 256mb
    100gb 7200rpm HDD
    Onboard Audio
    Logitech G7

    Yes, I am a REFUNDEE that can still login to D&L if I want!
    Yes, I have set D&L in the highest settings and /setenginequality high
    Yes, I find the game very dated compared to todays standards.


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by lahari

     Many of those posting have never even logged into the game.

    Umm, where do you get that idea? How can you prove that?
    Would
    it indeed surprise you that many here post in a different name than the
    name they use in game? Its another lame excuse by the fanbois to
    discredit the "hateboi" threads.
    Give it up, you may well be shocked to the marrow to find out who these ppl really are IN THE GAME.


    rofl mybe couse of all you 20 or so "hatebois" already stated that
    after SoG/refounds  you would not even consider to touch the game.





    Maybe some of us did enter the world of D&L on and after release so we can be rest assured that what we have been aying all this time is FACT and not FICTION!


    If we did not try it out once D&L was released then we will have others state what has been stated here: That many of us stating negative feedback about D&L has NEVER even logged in to the game!"
    But if we did login to D&L then we will get statements like yours.

    Damn if we do, Damned if we don't.
    At least we know who is in reality and who isn't.

    Some people do not even need to play an MMORPG as they already live in a fantasy world themselves.

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  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by MikeMonger

    Originally posted by leashmast
    Very true words indeed.

    You know, it works both ways, do you?



    Yes Sunshine, I know it works both ways - not that hard to understand.

    I have also noticed how you are trying to make this forum unreadable with your multicoloured, multi-quoted, pointless posts.

    If you are friends or related to the Devs of DnL, then I can understand. If you are being paid, make sure you get your wages upfront.


    Heh heh.

    The guy's either a troll, or a flaming hypocrite.  He accuses all the so-called "haters" of being blind to the joys and wonders of DnL, while at the same time refusing to acknowledge the perfectly valid, reasonable, and well thought out opinions of those so-called "haters".



    doh! LOL
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Nabatam


    Originally posted by blacksac

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.


    This is the most santimonious thing I have read in a long time (and I read a lot). The fact that you even dare to say it is appalling. You may be some mother Theresa in the RL, but even if that was the case you have no right to judge in those harsh terms (Mother Theresa certainly wouldn't have done it).

    Basically, you are implying that people who don't like the game are evil and overall bad people.

    You know... there is something slightly "cultish" going on in parts of the  DnL community these days, and words like these only reinforce that impression.


    Pffft!!!You are talking about the same guy who said we will all get cancer if we hate this game . LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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