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  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883


    Originally posted by Nabatam


    Originally posted by blacksac

    You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the works of hatefull men. Their joys are not ours. They love to infilct pain, create suffering, cause harm and grief. It empowers them, for beneath the skin they are empty and worthless.


    This is the most santimonious thing I have read in a long time (and I read a lot). The fact that you even dare to say it is appalling. You may be some mother Theresa in the RL, but even if that was the case you have no right to judge in those harsh terms (Mother Theresa certainly wouldn't have done it).

    Basically, you are implying that people who don't like the game are evil and overall bad people.

    You know... there is something slightly "cultish" going on in parts of the  DnL community these days, and words like these only reinforce that impression.



    Heh, very true,Nabatam. Makes you wonder if when the servers finally shut down for good if they will all join Vuuuar in a huddle and drink "Kool-Aid".
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by lahari

     Many of those posting have never even logged into the game.

    Umm, where do you get that idea? How can you prove that?
    Would it indeed surprise you that many here post in a different name than the name they use in game? Its another lame excuse by the fanbois to discredit the "hateboi" threads.
    Give it up, you may well be shocked to the marrow to find out who these ppl really are IN THE GAME.


    rofl mybe couse of all you 20 or so "hatebois" already stated that after SoG/refounds  you would not even consider to touch the game.




    Aye I am one of them but I know at least 4 of some that post here that allllllll play in game right alongside many of the fanbois. Like I said , you would be floored if you found out who they were in game. I cant account for the rest.

    You know whats funny IK? You seem to have two distinct personalities when you post in here.

    And I would really like to know where you get your numbers from, seems to me there are more than 20 that have posted their disappointment in this game. And lets not miss the fact that your other posts only claim 4 or 5 hatebois, then I noticed you gave it  10 hatebois, now you have bumped that count up to 20.
    Could it be the army of hatebois is growing as more and more experience the dreadful game? Nahhhhh, LONG LIVE THE ALMIGHTY POTENTIAL!
  • BorgqvistBorgqvist Member Posts: 11

    I'm not one of those "veterans" that has folowed this game for ages. I'm just a normal dude who bought this game as I thought it would be a great one. The only worries I had was that I couldn't find and videos of combat before I bought it. Now I know why..

    The first impression of a game is very important. The first that happened to me was that my account didn't work. It took me several hours before I could log on to the game.

    Then I was gonna create a character and what a huge disappointment. Race, gender, hair and piercing... Even WoW got more customisation. I want my char to have his own look, not something that 1000 others will look like.

    When finally in the game I couldn't move. fps was below 1.. After setting everything to the lowest I had about 7fps. Sure, I don't have the latest hardware-stuff but I can play all games on atleast medium settings.

    Now that I could move I laid my eyes on the character and his movement. Had to check a calendar to make sure I hadn't travelled 10yrs back in time.. I would compare the movements to Anarchy online. It's old and ugly. Combat animations are annoing. Well, animation without the 'S' cause there is only one..

    Ah well, graphics isn't the most important. Let's try doing something. What am I supposed to do? Any tutorial? Any help? Nope, nothing. Ok, so I kill something and then I kill anotherone and repeat that. How fun...

    I think I have played this for about an hour and I can say that this is the worst mmorpg I have ever tried. As a veteran of SWG I've been through alot of lies and bullshit, but after trying DnL, SWG seems to be the goodguys. DnL is dark and dull, graphics are horrible, the interface was hard to understand and use and the combat was weird and boring.

    As I didn't have one of those pioneer-accounts and bought the game jsut the other day, I'm not valid for a refund. Now I wish that I had given the money to some charity instead caused that would've atleast made me feel good about myself. Now it was like lighting it on fire. Well, worse cause I would've enjoyed some fire then, now all I got was anger.

  • -Inferno--Inferno- Staff WriterMember UncommonPosts: 325
    Sorry to say this but compared to DNL, Anarchy Online, even in its first release state (which was known as the worst MMOG launch in history until Mourning came along and topped even that) is way superior, more fun, better looking and generally more polished than DNL.

    "Fire is never a gentle master..."

  • SassiassismeSassiassisme Member Posts: 59


    Originally posted by Borgqvist

    As I didn't have one of those pioneer-accounts and bought the game jsut the other day, I'm not valid for a refund. Now I wish that I had given the money to some charity instead caused that would've atleast made me feel good about myself. Now it was like lighting it on fire. Well, worse cause I would've enjoyed some fire then, now all I got was anger.


    Neither was I  but I called my credit card company and told them it was not as advertised and is unplayable as intended. Chargeback was issued.
  • ZvorakZvorak Member Posts: 234


    Originally posted by lahari

    You know guys, its pretty lame to spend all that energy here spewing the negative comments toward not only the game, but the people that play the game.
    Sure everyone has a right to an opinion, however how many times must someone kick a dead dog? Also just because one has a right to an opinion doesn't make that opinion matter.
    DnL came out the other day. Sure it is missing features and it has bugs. Many seem to act as if no other MMO or game has ever launched without issues. So now we have a game loaded with players being rated by a handful of haters. The rank is what 3.7 now? There were a lil over 300 votes? come one. I know there are more than 300 player in game and able to enjoy themselves.
    The moment someone shows positive support to anything they are instantly labled 'fanbois' and flamed. How mature and helpful. Many of those posting have never even logged into the game. Many of the problems experienced by some people are due to computer issues of the user side.
    Sure DnL has bugs, some people have framerate issues. Some features are not yet included and the billing side is a bit to be desired. However, posting on every forum how bad a game is and how much you hate it and every person that plays it does nothing.
    I believe the spirit of the forums here and at a games site is to provide a platform for people to express useful information to the community. Instead of "This game is the worst game I ever played cuz the graphics suck" you could say you are having framerate issues and list your specs. Problems are solved by gathering useful information.
    So many people are very harsh and pointed in their comments, then wonder why they get no response. The really clever ones try one civil attempt after multiple heated ones, then justify themselves by saying they were trying to be civil.
    The game isn't everything is can be. Maybe it will never be, maybe it will. Its about time someone stood up to the flamers and the 'hatebois' The loud few.
    Glory IS Eternal


    Listen, people don't "hate" this game, it's just that many got robbed or are extremely dissappointed by it. At $60 bucks, this game is crap... who here can argue that...?

    So we don't "hate" the game, we are just letting other know the QUALITY of this game. Stop with these caarbear posts... it's exactly why this game got ruined in the first place. The Development team listened to the Cearbears instead of the hard critics... cut corners and got lulled into thinking their game was on par with the industry.

    It's NOT ...!  Now, that the fanboi lovefest has made the Dev's complacent, they have to deal with the realists who rejected this game.. not only recently but the "I told you so" Pioneers that COMPLAINED 6 months ago in SoG ....! Then left.

    Game was utter crap then, and it's utter crap now. What possibly could they have done in those 6 months...?

    No matter how many message board accounts they close @ D&L.com people aren't as stupid as the French portray them. The majority of the world voted on Dark & Light when they played SoG, whether in person or threw a guildee....

    The verdict:  Dark & Light sucks..! 

    Should be shut down before lawsuites start. If not the rest of the gaming populace with catch a clue and it will assuridly go bankrupt by October ...!

    Vuur is close minded and very pompious, not only to just start talking to his fanbase, but to call all of us here at MMORPG.com as frauds...!

    -Zvorak (Long time follower of Dark & Light)

  • -Inferno--Inferno- Staff WriterMember UncommonPosts: 325
    The "I told you so" warnings didn't start with SoG, they started with Beta, 2 years+ ago when people like me warned them that a game like DnL needs a lot of subscribers to be enjoyable. They completely ruined any perspective at getting enough subscribers for DnL when they released SoG. We Beta testers knew that releasing SoG would be a mistake. It was Beta, just with a different name. Beta was almost dead because almost all the closed beta testers left the game, bored, disappointed, angry, that they volunteered their time for a waste such as DnL. The Beta was a failure, it was badly managed, badly executed and the devs almost never listened to anything the beta testers had to say to them. This has not changed with SoG and it won't change now that DnL is released. The DnL dev team is simply incompetent to run a MMORPG of the scale that DnL wishes to be. Everything in it is at best mediocre - most of it is simply boring and tedious. DnL is not a MMORPG I would recommend to anyone, not even to my worst enemies.

    "Fire is never a gentle master..."

  • McShaneMcShane Member Posts: 57


    Originally posted by -Inferno-
    The "I told you so" warnings didn't start with SoG, they started with Beta, 2 years+ ago when people like me warned them that a game like DnL needs a lot of subscribers to be enjoyable. They completely ruined any perspective at getting enough subscribers for DnL when they released SoG. We Beta testers knew that releasing SoG would be a mistake. It was Beta, just with a different name. Beta was almost dead because almost all the closed beta testers left the game, bored, disappointed, angry, that they volunteered their time for a waste such as DnL. The Beta was a failure, it was badly managed, badly executed and the devs almost never listened to anything the beta testers had to say to them. This has not changed with SoG and it won't change now that DnL is released. The DnL dev team is simply incompetent to run a MMORPG of the scale that DnL wishes to be. Everything in it is at best mediocre - most of it is simply boring and tedious. DnL is not a MMORPG I would recommend to anyone, not even to my worst enemies.



    Well said. And let it be known that Inferno here, at a time (or still does for all I know), worked for DnL Stratics. So, please, fanbois, don't try your pathetic discrediting techniques with him. Thanks.
  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043


    Originally posted by Borgqvist

    I'm not one of those "veterans" that has folowed this game for ages. I'm just a normal dude who bought this game as I thought it would be a great one. The only worries I had was that I couldn't find and videos of combat before I bought it. Now I know why..
    The first impression of a game is very important. The first that happened to me was that my account didn't work. It took me several hours before I could log on to the game.
    Then I was gonna create a character and what a huge disappointment. Race, gender, hair and piercing... Even WoW got more customisation. I want my char to have his own look, not something that 1000 others will look like.
    When finally in the game I couldn't move. fps was below 1.. After setting everything to the lowest I had about 7fps. Sure, I don't have the latest hardware-stuff but I can play all games on atleast medium settings.
    Now that I could move I laid my eyes on the character and his movement. Had to check a calendar to make sure I hadn't travelled 10yrs back in time.. I would compare the movements to Anarchy online. It's old and ugly. Combat animations are annoing. Well, animation without the 'S' cause there is only one..
    Ah well, graphics isn't the most important. Let's try doing something. What am I supposed to do? Any tutorial? Any help? Nope, nothing. Ok, so I kill something and then I kill anotherone and repeat that. How fun...
    I think I have played this for about an hour and I can say that this is the worst mmorpg I have ever tried. As a veteran of SWG I've been through alot of lies and bullshit, but after trying DnL, SWG seems to be the goodguys. DnL is dark and dull, graphics are horrible, the interface was hard to understand and use and the combat was weird and boring.
    As I didn't have one of those pioneer-accounts and bought the game jsut the other day, I'm not valid for a refund. Now I wish that I had given the money to some charity instead caused that would've atleast made me feel good about myself. Now it was like lighting it on fire. Well, worse cause I would've enjoyed some fire then, now all I got was anger.



    There you are OP. 

    An unbiased, acutal experience from one of your peers.  My experience is exactly the same.  Couldn't type it better myself.

    I too am annoyed by what you call "hatebois" (a term that didn't exist prior to the DnL debacle, no?) mainly becaue their laughter at my pain and suffering with this game is just another jab at an already open wound.

    Unfortunatley, I didn't do the research before I purchased this thing, and I feel defrauded.  Buyer beware I suppose, but nevertheless, for them to sell product like this borders on criminal.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by McShane

    Well said. And let it be known that Inferno here, at a time (or still does for all I know), worked for DnL Stratics. So, please, fanbois, don't try your pathetic discrediting techniques with him. Thanks.

    WOOT!!!!
  • SBE1SBE1 Member UncommonPosts: 340

    I also think that people are really really mad because they pre-paid and didn't get what they expected. Also, the price is pretty hefty at $60.  Finally, I think people are now getting fed up with games releasing that are substantially incomplete and buggy.

    People can say that no launch is smooth, and true enough.  However, the game should be relatively bug free and relatively complete.  If you need more bandwith and server capacity because there are too many users, I can understand because servers can be added quickly. 

    I'm tired, so tired of game companies expecting people to buy their product before its generally done.  The only way they get people to do it is to give those who subscribe early a big advantage over others, so that you pay during the beta process. 

    Finally, some simple stuff that most MMOs have just doesn't make it here.   Why do MMOs think they need to re-create the wheel?  A basic tutorial, or a basic starting town with some basic quests.  Sigh.

  • CymekCymek Member Posts: 340


    Originally posted by lahari
    Sure everyone has a right to an opinion, however how many times must someone kick a dead dog? Also just because one has a right to an opinion doesn't make that opinion matter.I believe the spirit of the forums here and at a games site is to provide a platform for people to express useful information to the community. Instead of "This game is the worst game I ever played cuz the graphics suck" you could say you are having framerate issues and list your specs. Problems are solved by gathering useful information.
    So many people are very harsh and pointed in their comments, then wonder why they get no response. The really clever ones try one civil attempt after multiple heated ones, then justify themselves by saying they were trying to be civil.

    First off, the community is far, far from being done kicking the DnL dog. Look at how long ago the SWG NGE was and people are still kicking it.

    Second of all, I consider all of this negativity useful.

    Why? Well it saved me from wasting more time and money in what looks like a total failure of a game. I had enough of that in SWG.

    I have never played DnL, and due to the useful information that was posted by the "haters" I won't ever play it, and thus won't waste time or money.

    You see, I respect the opinions of the majority of people who spend time on sites like these...they are typically not ignorant of the way products should be when released....they are typically highly experienced gamers.

    This might be news for you - but when a company releases a polished and playable product, the good reviews will outweigh the bad reviews.

  • SassiassismeSassiassisme Member Posts: 59


    Originally posted by Cymek

    First off, the community is far, far from being done kicking the DnL dog. Look at how long ago the SWG NGE was and people are still kicking it.

    Second of all, I consider all of this negativity useful.

    Why? Well it saved me from wasting more time and money in what looks like a total failure of a game. I had enough of that in SWG.

    I have never played DnL, and due to the useful information that was posted by the "haters" I won't ever play it, and thus won't waste time or money.

    You see, I respect the opinions of the majority of people who spend time on sites like these...they are typically not ignorant of the way products should be when released....they are typically highly experienced gamers.

    This might be news for you - but when a company releases a polished and playable product, the good reviews will outweigh the bad reviews.


    Spot On!! I wish I had seen this and listened to the bad things that were pushed off as "hateboi" posts before I did it. I was convinced on their boards that these people were just rotten apples in a crate of Red Delicious. Oh boy was I wrong. And yes I feel like an idiot. I just wish I had seen this site before.
  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    "This might be news for you - but when a company releases a polished and playable product, the good reviews will outweigh the bad reviews."

    therefore, I will never make the mistake of buying a game at release ever again.

    A word to the wise out there, wait for the "official" reviews.

    Yes, you won't have the level jump on all the others who got it in beta or right at release.  But atleast you wont feel victimized like I have after this horrible experience.

  • CymekCymek Member Posts: 340

    Originally posted by Dabble
    "This might be news for you - but when a company releases a polished and playable product, the good reviews will outweigh the bad reviews."

    therefore, I will never make the mistake of buying a game at release ever again.

    Not everything is terrible out of the gate

    Guild Wars was HIGHLY polished....I encountered maybe 2 non-game-breaking bugs in the first month it was released...these were fixed very quickly.

    WoW was very polished out of the gate.

    SWG had serious issues when it was released...but since it was playable, it got ok reviews....not good reviews, but not abysmal reviews.


    *** Edited because I mis-interpreted your post at first - Apologies if you already read it ***

  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    Yeah, I was there at WoWs release too, and I agree that it was very smooth.

    However, the experience with DnL has definately made me gun shy. 

    I won't take the same chance again.

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045


    Originally posted by Dabble

    Yeah, I was there at WoWs release too, and I agree that it was very smooth.
    However, the experience with DnL has definately made me gun shy. 
    I won't take the same chance again.


    I never preorder, and I always wait at least a month, that way I go in with eyes wide open, and many of the game annoying bugs are delt with. It has always worked well, noone to blame except myself, so I havent ever got bitter yet... /touch wood
  • sumo_kotensumo_koten Member Posts: 23
     Well after having played the game after parting with some hard earned  bucks, I was extremely disappointed in the game. Not only was I disappointed but I was angered and horrified that the company that released this game expected people to pay the going rate for it. There can be no justification for charging standard prices for such a sub-standard product, the company obviously cares very little for their players or the community they may hope to create.

     The main problem that I had was not a technical issue, nore was it the graphics or the sound or any other superficial things like that. I have played and enjoyed some great games that had very primitive graphics. My main problem with the game was that it did not provide any kind of support for the player, the interface was difficult to use and not intuitive at all. There was no tutorial to get you started and everything was confusing and there was no direction for you to take.

     The overall result was that I felt cheated by the developers, I am sure that if they had a conscience it would be hurting them to be associated with such a poor attempt at creating a MMORPG. They have let down the MMORPG community in general, their players in particular and have done themselves no favours either. I will be very surprised if this game lasts more than a few months before it is scrapped.

     I would like to be pleasantly surprised by the game being radically re-vamped and improved! I think that the concept had so much potential and the ambitious scale of the game warrants respect if nothing else. I fear that the game will never recover from this abyssmal attempt at a game launch, and all the many months I have spent waiting eagerly to play this game will have been in vain.

     Goodbye Ganareth, I hardly knew you!
  • HawkinsHawkins Member UncommonPosts: 121

    *deleted* double post

  • HawkinsHawkins Member UncommonPosts: 121


    Originally posted by blacksac

    Originally posted by Dabble

    Yeah, I was there at WoWs release too, and I agree that it was very smooth.
    However, the experience with DnL has definately made me gun shy. 
    I won't take the same chance again.

    I never preorder, and I always wait at least a month, that way I go in with eyes wide open, and many of the game annoying bugs are delt with. It has always worked well, noone to blame except myself, so I havent ever got bitter yet... /touch wood


    Nice, but is that how you recommend others to do, NO. You recommend them to buy the crap and go into a game which you feel hesitate to pre-order. That's the problem.

    It's not about hate, it's more about how correct information to be reached to the potential victims. While you see hate, I see the counter reactions as a result of the propogating of lies, empty promises, false hopes, hypnotiicng people even using shills to mislead people, ban those naysayers to the game forums thou what they speak is mostly the truth.


  • RipperjackAURipperjackAU Member Posts: 124


    Originally posted by lahari

    You know guys, its pretty lame to spend all that energy here spewing the negative comments toward not only the game, but the people that play the game.




    I have but one thing to say to the people who acutally paid money for this game...

    SUCKERS!!

  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    Thanks Ripper.

    Jerk



  • Originally posted by lahari

    You know guys, its pretty lame to spend all that energy here spewing the negative comments toward not only the game, but the people that play the game.


    Honestly, whats it to you what I do with my time? Whats it to you what any of these people do with their time?

    Its not the hatebois who created this mess.

    Its not the hatebois who make the game unplayable.

    Its not the hatebois who make the game NOT fun.

    Its not the hatebois who blew this game.

    Its not the hatebois who are at fault here.

    The hatebois have proven over and over and over again the truth. The hatebois have proven over and over and over again the predictions. The hatebois have proven over and over and over again to stay away from this game.

    The hatebois provided very useful information.

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