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Its so obvious the NGE was meant for console

admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526
in Star Wars Galaxies

After having gone back to take a peek on my nephew's account a few weeks back, it became so clear to me that NGE was designed for console.

Combat - a gamepad doesnt have F1 - F12 buttons.

Chat - This one is a key piece of evidence to me. Why else would SOE remove planetary chat, trade chat, guild chat, and combat ?

grabbing loot - why switch to a single click to loot mobs ? Perhaps because a gamepad doesnt normally double click anything like a mouse does

Radial commands - the changes to radial command just SCREAM port to console.

Targeting - again, SCREAMS port to console

The rest of the changes were apparent to save money. Less professions to balance = less developers to pay.

In the end, it amazes me that anyone with half a brain could ever play this game. SOE took your money and used it to design a completely new game and LIED to you about why it was done. Will there be public outrage when SOE finally announces SWG available for PS3 ? Probably not, the fanbois say its a good thing because it means more players.

Come on folks, hit that cancel button. Send a message to SOE that lying and cheating your customers wont be tolerated.

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  • Wildcat84Wildcat84 Member Posts: 2,304
    I think that it was too.

    I think that it isn't now though, they have made some changes to make the game more PC friendly (such as the firing of specials from toolbar) but clearly there was a plan to do it.

    I think the only reason why SWG to console didn't happen was the subscriber base collapsed when NGE was released, so, they are unwilling to do the development.



  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Originally posted by admriker444

    After having gone back to take a peek on my nephew's account a few weeks back, it became so clear to me that NGE was designed for console.
    Combat - a gamepad doesnt have F1 - F12 buttons.
    Yet SWG still uses hotkeys (whether they be 1234567890-= or the F-keys.  With pub 29 even more emphasis were placed on them.
    Chat - This one is a key piece of evidence to me. Why else would SOE remove planetary chat, trade chat, guild chat, and combat ?
    Did anyone use the planetary or trade chat other then for spamming?  Guild chat is still there and they're apparantly working on bringing back the combat log
    grabbing loot - why switch to a single click to loot mobs ? Perhaps because a gamepad doesnt normally double click anything like a mouse does
    There's still the same amount of clicking involved.  I believe Pre-NGE you double clicked and you looted everything.  Now you click once to see what's available and double click what you want or click Loot all in the window.
    Radial commands - the changes to radial command just SCREAM port to console.
    You press a key on your keyboard by default rather then a button on your mouse.  Hardly a difference there.  You can reassign that back to the way it was pre-nge too.
    Targeting - again, SCREAMS port to console
    Plenty of PC only games use twitch style combat.
    The rest of the changes were apparent to save money. Less professions to balance = less developers to pay.
    In the end, it amazes me that anyone with half a brain could ever play this game. SOE took your money and used it to design a completely new game and LIED to you about why it was done. Will there be public outrage when SOE finally announces SWG available for PS3 ? Probably not, the fanbois say its a good thing because it means more players.
    Come on folks, hit that cancel button. Send a message to SOE that lying and cheating your customers wont be tolerated.
    Interesting you say that.  I know you say you sold your nephews account, yet the character still shouts the same advertisments in Theed in the same spot as it did a few weeks ago.  Macros are client side too   Infact I just landed in Eisley now and guess who's spamming "omgz SOE is evil"?  Heh, guess who just reported you and encouraged his guild to go to Eisley and do the same?
    With pub 29 slowing combat down and adding back more RPG features, how is that more console like?

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  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by admriker444

    After having gone back to take a peek on my nephew's account a few weeks back, it became so clear to me that NGE was designed for console.
    Combat - a gamepad doesnt have F1 - F12 buttons.
    Yet SWG still uses hotkeys (whether they be 1234567890-= or the F-keys.  With pub 29 even more emphasis were placed on them.
    Chat - This one is a key piece of evidence to me. Why else would SOE remove planetary chat, trade chat, guild chat, and combat ?
    Did anyone use the planetary or trade chat other then for spamming?  Guild chat is still there and they're apparantly working on bringing back the combat log
    grabbing loot - why switch to a single click to loot mobs ? Perhaps because a gamepad doesnt normally double click anything like a mouse does
    There's still the same amount of clicking involved.  I believe Pre-NGE you double clicked and you looted everything.  Now you click once to see what's available and double click what you want or click Loot all in the window.
    Radial commands - the changes to radial command just SCREAM port to console.
    You press a key on your keyboard by default rather then a button on your mouse.  Hardly a difference there.  You can reassign that back to the way it was pre-nge too.
    Targeting - again, SCREAMS port to console
    Plenty of PC only games use twitch style combat.
    The rest of the changes were apparent to save money. Less professions to balance = less developers to pay.
    In the end, it amazes me that anyone with half a brain could ever play this game. SOE took your money and used it to design a completely new game and LIED to you about why it was done. Will there be public outrage when SOE finally announces SWG available for PS3 ? Probably not, the fanbois say its a good thing because it means more players.
    Come on folks, hit that cancel button. Send a message to SOE that lying and cheating your customers wont be tolerated.
    Interesting you say that.  I know you say you sold your nephews account, yet the character still shouts the same advertisments in Theed in the same spot as it did a few weeks ago.  Macros are client side too   Infact I just landed in Eisley now and guess who's spamming "omgz SOE is evil"?  Heh, guess who just reported you and encouraged his guild to go to Eisley and do the same?
    With pub 29 slowing combat down and adding back more RPG features, how is that more console like?

    I didnt sell his account, he sold it. Some vet from another server that had started a toon on chilastra becuase it had more players than his old server bought it.

    I havent touched his account because I dont have the game on my pc. Maybe the guy didnt change the password on the account and my nephew still plays it.

    Thats pretty funny, he was spamming something evil about soe lol. Post a screenie

  • coolkidm25coolkidm25 Member Posts: 3

    I cancelled this month!

    Finding guild wars a lot more fun and it's free!

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526
    i just started guild wars also. I must say the graphics are quite nice. I keep hanging out near rivers because the water looks amazing.
  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278

    Perhaps you guys didn't hear... PS3 is 'not a console' according to
    Sony.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php/â€ÂÂ?http://imdb.com/title/db_area/images/layout/99_body_divider.gif?story=9642 

    There you have it, SWG doesn't 'technically' have to be ported to a console to run on the PS3.

  • AnkorAnkor Member Posts: 258
    If it goes to the consule...why not kjust get it done and get it to the 360 and PS3?

    Honestly though, the graphics in SWG are below the Next Generation HD graphics on the Xbox 360..... plus...its SOE...they lie, and lie, and destroy games.... lol. They are simply the crap of the MMO world.
  • AnkorAnkor Member Posts: 258
    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

    Perhaps you guys didn't hear... PS3 is 'not a console' according to
    Sony.
    <a href="http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php/â€Â
  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278
    The official site mods aren't even denying it anymore. Either they've given up on defending it, or they've learned the truth.
  • DistilerDistiler Member Posts: 416
    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152519.html

    A trick of semantics my friends  PS3 will be considered by Sony as a COMPUTER:

    Sony's wish to make "PlayStation" a byword for "entertainment computer."

    He further emphasized the PS3's PC-like abilities, stating there would
    be no problems running popular flavors of OS, including Linux, Windows,
    and Mac OS X: "to the PS3, an OS is like any other application."
    However, he added that "I think that perhaps you'll see a general
    purpose Cell [built-in] OS." Previously, the company has said that the
    PS3 hard drive would come with a Linux-based OS preinstalled.


    There you have, the reason because SWG it's where it is right now


    PD: BTW, do you remember the new SOE launcher shown at E3?, the one compatible with PS3 . I always thought: well, they cannot port SWG, EQ2, etc to PS3 easily ....ahh my bad, I should have guessed it, they will make PS3 run Windows hahaha, sublime







  • WufaWufa Member Posts: 132
    I agree it was always intended to be released. I mean Amazon had a listing for PS2, in Novemeber, and a release date of later in November, once we found it and called them on it it was pulled, and then they dropped the NGE BS on us. They saw the negativity toward the console thing, and decided they wouldn't survive releasing both at the same time. Well they survived barely... It is such a console game now it's ridiculous.

    But SOE just lies constantly, they have never, nor will ever tell the truth, or accept that they made a mistake! That's why the NGE is slowly being turned back to the way it was. I mean they add taget brackets? Then in 2-3 months a target lock, then the expertise system, sounds like stuff we already had doesn't it?


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  • Unknown
    I totally agree. I was in SWG from the very first day and stayed till december 2004. I just went back, nostalgia I guess, oyu know how it is. Wow the shock. I hardly knew what to do. Fun enough my guild city ababdonned forever is still up and so is my house and all the members houses too. A cemetery really. It was simply a bad idea. Do they even still have players coming in? I went to a few cities and gosh it was so deserted. Does SWG has any future?
  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928
    Who cares, everything Sony is garbage. From their TV's to their Online games division. Guys when you buy something that has "Sony" on it you are paying for the name, not quality. That applies to every part of Sony.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526

    I still dont understand why people continue to play knowing full well the NGE was designed for console play (or maybe they havent accepted this) ?

    It would be like someone stealing your car and yet you continue to make the payments on it

  • XcathdraXcathdra Member CommonPosts: 1,027

    To those who state the game is more RPG because they added back in F keys... Keep in mind the new PS3 will be able to support a keyboard and a mouse...

    Xcathdra

    Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
    Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
    Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

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