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The greatest mmorpg and rpg ever made!!!
OldKnight
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Yo! guy's its me oldknight and I was wanting to take another poll Im sure you all have seen my top 25 horror movies now it's the greatest mmorpg and rpg ever made! so everyone join in I will need the information first before I start the poll like all of my other post and thx alot to all who have made the new official beta guild group! those who got into it have been sent there form and without furthor adue I say let's get this poll started and if you have already put your favorite rpg and mmorpg in the forum I do appreciate free bumps to keep this going so let's start typing lol!. 
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NES- Dragon Warrior, Dragon Warrior 3 (Legend of Zelda is adventure, not RPG, mind you.)
SNES- Final Fantasy 2(4j), Final Fantasy 3(6j), Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana
Genesis- Phantasy Star 4, Shining Force, Shining Force 2
Sega CD- Lunar: The Silver Star, Lunar: Eternal Blue, Shining Force CD
Sega Saturn: Dragon Force, Shining Force 3
Playstation: Vagrant Story, Suikoden, Suikoden 2, Brigandine, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean 2
Playstation 2: Disgaea, Suikoden 3, Suikoden 5, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Some have been omitted for brevity. If it is not on this list, that does not necessarily mean it is excluded from being awesome, that just means I didn't bother to list it. If it is on this list, it is awesome. So speaketh I.
I'd have to say pre-cu SWG. was the best MMORPG ever, It really was a game you'd log into just to roleplay. But alas SOE says roleplaying is not "iconic" or "starwary
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the SNES Romancing Saga serie, and Romancing Saga II for gameboy (Final Fantasy II US/EU name), Baldur Gate I/II, Planescape Torment, Sanitarium, The maze of Galious (MSX
), Eye of the Beholder I/II/III, the Dragon quest serie, Neverwinter nights, Icewind dale I/II, Fallout I/II, Kotor I/II, Dungeon Master I/II, Bloodwish (2 player dungeon master like with pvp was great back in the years), the Elder Scroll Serie (Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowin, Oblivion), Skynet, Deus Ex and that's the few i can remember... if i can remember some others i will post them 
Sincerely, Oldknight
Very good...
You should run for President.
See, what I loved about that is...Final Fantasy 7 was not in the playstation list.
The only reason Final Fantasy 7 was popular because it was some peoples FIRST rpg, we can all see that our first rpg is our favorite (in some cases) my favorite rpg is Dragon Warrior 1 because it was my first...I still enjoy playing it.
Neptus - FFXI - Pandemonium
Neptus - WoW - Detheroc
Current Game to beat again:God of War Ps2.
Diablo2
Guildwars (Get to lvl 20)
NES- DW3, FF, Wizardry
SNES - FF2, 7th Saga, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana
Sega - Uncharted Waters, Shining Force, Phantasy Star IV
PS - Parasite Eve, FF7
PS2, Wizardry: Tales of the Forsaken Land, probably more but I don't play ps2 much
PC: Pools of Radiance, Pools of Darkness, Morrowind, Icewind Dale, NWN, Bards Tale & BT3
MMO: EQ pre-velious, DAoC pre-toa and buffbot popularity
gamertag - Swaffle House
Hands down the best mmorpg EVER made is the newly released:
Dark and Light
Very good...
You should run for President.
See, what I loved about that is...Final Fantasy 7 was not in the playstation list.
The only reason Final Fantasy 7 was popular because it was some peoples FIRST rpg, we can all see that our first rpg is our favorite (in some cases) my favorite rpg is Dragon Warrior 1 because it was my first...I still enjoy playing it.
Your comment about FF7, I don't think that is true at all. I played final fantasy 8 and 10 long before I ever played 7, and it sure as hell wasn't my first RPG. Actually, I never played ff7 untill the ps2 came out and I had done finished ff7. I thought it would suck because of graphics (because it's old) and I didn't play it for a long time. But then, final fantasy 7 advent children was announced, so I decided to beat 7 just so I could understand the movie, guess what? I was hooked, I loved that game and after beating it I was kind of sad it had to end, even with its out of date graphics. If I can love it now, years after its release, then I can only imagine how people enjoyed it back then. It was the first 3d final fantasy, and had an amazing storyline. I think it is one of the most legendary RPGs of all time, even NOW.
Also, for Nes I think the first FF should be added to the greatest list. It was probably the most innovative game of its time, and started a franchise that would shine years and years to come. For the super nes I would say Secret of mana, I think Square just kinna dominates this catagory. (note all the dragon warriors that are being mentioned, Im including enix on this statement)
However, anyone who has played Final Fantasy 6 (Final Fantasy 3 in US) knows that the first disc of FF7 is ever so close in story to FF6 up until the Floating Continent.
While I think the projected remake with better graphics and camera angles will help improve the mood of the storytelling, it just wasn't as epic as a lot of people make it out to be. For the cast of characters they had, there was a lot more opportunity to develop those characters than was taken. Lines and opportunities were wasted, and they stretch out any background as long as they can.
Final Fantasy 7 wanted to be epic, and because of that, it just grates on my nerves. It's a good game, but it tries too hard to be too many things, and stretches just thin enough that flaws peek through. Better to be a modest game that only tries at one or two things, but can be described as nothing short of absolute success.
I'm not going to tear into FF7 fans for liking the game, no. I've found myself very fond of good games with a few major flaws. Star Ocean 3 for example, which has AI that you have to kickstart, as well as a storyline that skipped a bit too far ahead. No, it's that FF7 simply tries too hard, and that's what hurts it most.
We all have our own opinions on games, so I'm not going to deprive you of that, or tell you that your opinion is wrong. I myself never saw this "trying to be epic" quality that you did. I thought the storyline was amazing, and I could realy relate with the main character midway into the game. I mean, Cloud is just a regular guy, like you or me, he wasnt a super strong guy. In fact, he was a weak shinra lacky who failed!! But by chance, all this shit happens to him...and its not like some other super hero that wants to use his powers to save the world, he just wants to live...For something to be epic, wouldnt the hero have to be...say...heroic? Cloud is hardly the heroic figure...It's one of the things I like about the game. Hes not a goody two shoes fuck, thats why my two favorite ff heroes are squall and cloud, though squall kind of is an emo in disguise...hes still cool.
See, the reason I wrote the post I did was because she was STATING, as a fact, that the only reason that FF7 sold well was because it was peoples first RPG, and I think that is kind of an ignorant statement. Because, you see; I dont realy think 9.70 MILLION copies of a game were all sold to people playing their FIRST RPG!!! Actually, since those copies were probably shared amongst friends, the amount of people is even more. To assume that each and every one of those people had never played an RPG before, is not only uninformed and ignorant, but also quite asonine. I don't know why people are always hating on FF7, is it because they don't like THEIR OWN favorite rpg to be outshined by a game that obviously sold better? I tell you, the game is obviously as good as people say, otherwise it wouldn't have done so well.
The Good ole' days: Chrono Trigger
The Modern Era: Morrowind
I admit that when I first started playing Chrono Trigger ages ago, a friend lent it to me and I didn't think it was all that fantastic. The combat was good, but I found the first few chapters a little bleh, but once that time traveling started in earnest, damn was that a fun game. I still love the music for the Kingdom of Zeal.
Cool guys! these are all great games I will get the poll running shortly right after I go and finish some wor kand drink A starbucks coffe well lol if you want you can put in your last minute suggestion's the poll will begin shortly so if you want your favorite game in the poll please post it now! oh! ps I just foundout enigma quit staff quite shocking if you ask me.
Sincerly, OldKnight
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