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WoW or DAoC? How have they improved in the last year? Thinking of playing one again.

EffectEffect Member UncommonPosts: 949
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I'm thinking of playing one of these again. Both are installed and ready to go. I remember really enjoying DAoC. I have a 50 Warden there but will be starting another class and just playing the Warden for RvR or to support my new character (will be Hib as a result). I have the epic version of the game so I should be up to date release wise but I think I heard something about an expansion. I also remember really enjoying WoW world. Didn't have a high level character there though and would be starting out as Horde or possiblly Night Elf since I've heard I don't have to travel to Ironforge anymore for the auction. Due to being in Gradute School at the moment and looking for work in the next month or two I'll be pretty casual and that's a big factor and why I picked these two titles to possiblly return to.

How have they improved in recent months, the last year?

Anything big planed for them in the coming months?

Population growth (more towards DAoC then WoW clearly)?

Anything else you can add about the two would be great. Thanks.

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  • YarosYaros Member Posts: 280
    For DAoC they added Darkness Rising exapnsion - horses, champion weapons, champion levels, good expansion imo, levels are easy, not grind and interesting storyline (and you don't really need then, they are just small, but nice addition; and you can get then by rvr). And Catacombs - some nice items, new dungeons, good for fast leveling, but you probably saw that already, I think its older then one year.
    For WoW they making are expansion: 2 new races (blood elves and blue demons from space), 10 more levels and more instanced dungeons to raid.


  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    I say go with WoW. for more then one reason. Daoc is just outdated really, and the pve is just awfull. the pvp is really all there is. now WoW hasn´t changed much lately, but an expansion is on its way. with new raids,battlegrounds,new proffesions, more quests. it will be a very big expansion.

  • kahnzkahnz Member Posts: 244
    DAoC is supposed to have a new expansion coming out soon.  I haven't played either game for a while, but I was on DAoC about 3 months ago.  The only server that has any real population is the classic one (Gareth?).  Mythic had clustered the ToA servers into groups of 5 now, I think. They were also allowing cross server guilds. I dunno how that affected things. Anyway, the PvE on the ToA servers was ok, but the RvR was still very very active.  If you are into the RvR then it's a no brainer. If you wanna start a new character and PLAY it to 50, then you prolly wanna start on the classic server.

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  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438

    Originally posted by Effect

    I'm thinking of playing one of these again. Both are installed and ready to go. I remember really enjoying DAoC. I have a 50 Warden there but will be starting another class and just playing the Warden for RvR or to support my new character (will be Hib as a result). I have the epic version of the game so I should be up to date release wise but I think I heard something about an expansion. I also remember really enjoying WoW world. Didn't have a high level character there though and would be starting out as Horde or possiblly Night Elf since I've heard I don't have to travel to Ironforge anymore for the auction. Due to being in Gradute School at the moment and looking for work in the next month or two I'll be pretty casual and that's a big factor and why I picked these two titles to possiblly return to.
    How have they improved in recent months, the last year? In recent months DAoC has implemented new class changes to existing gimper classes. Most people are pleased and the less desirable classes are desired once again. In the last year-Classic servers have been implemented. These servers allow you to play without ToA and no buff bots. They also took the /level command out of the classic servers. The most populated server in the game is Gareth, which is a Classic server. I play Hib on Gareth and have played the other 2 realm previously on Gareth. This server always has people on it to compete against or to do raids. It is best to join a guild in the largest alliance you can find. Changes to ToA have been made to make getting artifacts easier and the ML's faster.
    Anything big planed for them in the coming months? DAoC has an expansion that will be released this fall. No one knows any specifics, but they are implementing a new race for each realm and a new unlockable class. The next large patch will be improving crafting so that it is more desirable to do so. They are also adding a new BG for those 45-49.
    Population growth (more towards DAoC then WoW clearly)? Population has dropped in the past year, but has become more centralized also. All the servers but Gareth, the classic server, and the Co-op and PvP have been clustered with 2 or 3 other servers. This leaves about a population at peak times of 3k per server, which meets the server population cap anyways. There is a steady flow of new players that are replacing the old, but mostly on the Gareth server.
    Anything else you can add about the two would be great. Thanks. I'd recommend subscribing to DAoC for 1 month, since you have the DR expansions, which is the latest expansion already. The best content in the game is from the Catacombs and DR expansions. Try out either Hibernia or Albion, since they are the two most active Realms on Gareth. Make sure you join a 'good' guild fairly quickly so you can get into the game faster. You will know within a month of dedicated play if you will enjoy DAoC more.
    Both DAoC and WoW have a casual friendly leveling system, but both require a lot of time to play at the end game. RvR in DAoC requires at least an hour to get anything done and WoW takes several hours to get a raid done. The difference is the rewards. In DAoC, you gain RP's through RvR to improve yourself. In WoW you gain gear through Raids to improve yourself. DAoC offers the greatest satisfaction sooner, because you gain RP's everytime you kill someone. WoW offers the least satisfaction, because you have to join a huge raid guild that puts you on a waiting list for the gear you are grinding for. So you may have to do the dungeon 30 times before it is your turn to get 1 piece of gear out of 8 or more pieces.
    If you choose DAoC and want to go Hib again and choose the Gareth server...look me up. I am an officer in a mid sized guild and we are part of the largest and most active alliance of all three realms.
    Ziathan (character name)
    Sacred (guild name)
    Hell's Minions (alliance name)
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    WoW has nothing new for below-60.  If you will be low level for a while the only thing is that low level BG's are infested with twinks because level 60 BG's suck for non-raiders and world PvP is mostly dead.

    I have no idea which you should play.  But I can tell you WoW has nothing substantially new other than the normal class reviews etc. 

    Unless you are a raider,  there are now 4 40-man dungeons and 2 20 man dungeons.  But it sounds like you won't even be considering that for a while.

    Supposedly the next patch 1.12 (maybe coming in september or october) will add some pvp stuff.  No one really knows what.  Maybe cross server BG's but that is just a rumor.

    The WoW expansion is still fairly hush hush, you can read up on it.  It will add 10 more level and a good chunk of content it seems.  But I would be incedibly surprised if it comes before christmas and IMO it will be after christmas.



  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846

    I think it can be summed up very simply and others have kind of done this.

    If you want to RvR (pvp) then I would suggest DAoC.

    If you enjoy PvE (nothing wrong with that if you do) or Raids I would say WoW or even (gasp) EQ2 (and yes I know you didn't include it).

    Gareth is where I play DAoC still and it has a good population.  Of course that being said 99% of the time you will wonder where all those other people are.  Right now Midgard has all the reroll people and thus about the combined population of Albion and Hibernia in RvR.  A few months back it was Albion and before that it was Hibernia.

    So if you came to Gareth keep that in mind.  Whatever realm you go to will have a population shift based on the time of the month or who has the Relics.  If you play a ToA server I wouldn't have much advice.  You'll not only have to catch up on Realm Ranks to compete but master levels and artifacts as well.

    On the classic server you pretty much either follow the zerg till you are a sufficient realm rank or get lucky and join an 8 man or guild earlier.  You won't find much if any solo RvR and even if you run in a group you will most likely be hit by multiple other groups while in fights.

    Just trying to let you know what its like there.

    As for PvE in DAoC with Catacombs came the Task Dungeons.  There is very little pve outside of them and many people almost never see the light of day or actual groups.  You can find groups if you camp the TD's but it can be very slow at times if you can't solo or two box.

    WoW...

    I liked the PvE and most people I met on the two servers were rather friendly on average.  The game has just never held my attention for long.  When it launched I played a Warlock to 50 in about a month and quit because my guild broke up.  Moved servers and got Hunter and Paladin into the 50's and just couldn't take it.  Not sure why I can't stick with WoW as I like the game overall.

    Basicly I play DAoC until I get bored quit for 1 or 2 months then go back and have done that since the game came out.

    Other than that I play EQ2 which oddly has kept me around.  Maybe because I like to torture myself and I think its amazingly considering how much negative SOE stuff I post.

    That's my 2 copper with a 10 copper ramble added on.

  • sidebustersidebuster Member UncommonPosts: 1,712

    I heard there is going to be an update were they fix tanks to be more desirable in pvp or something. I don't know if Kunou can say if it is true or not, but that is just what I heard.

  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686
    Some steps have already been taken to improve tanks... A couple patches back they were given some boosts which should have definitely helped, more HPs, resists, etc. More changes are still taking place in every patch, just more on a class by class basis rather than archetype basis.


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  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077
    IMO DAOC is better than WoW in both PVE and in PVP(RvR).  WoW is just a very shallow game in my opinion.  I really enjoy the combat system and class interdependancy of DAOC, especially at higher levels.  You are perfectly capable of soloing in the game but at higher levels grouping is, as in most games, much preferred both for speed and for fun factor.

    The only place where WoW is superior, in my opinion, is in Raid Content.  Basically because DAOC isn't really a raid oriented game (though there is SOME raid level content in the game that is quite good). 

    As for longevity?  The end-game of WoW is excruciatingly boring (in my opinion) whereas DAOC really doesn't have an end because RvR is just soo much fun.


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  • LasraikLasraik Member Posts: 170

    If you're a casual gamer I would say play WoW.  WoW PVE > DAoC PVE by far.

    If you're looking for PVP then play DAoC, but understand getting your character min/max can take a lot of time.   The RP system is nice in DAoC, but it seperates the haves from the have nots.   If you're going to play DAOC, Gareth is probably your best bet.  The other servers populations are lacking and they'll probably all be one cluster soon.

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  • HajenHajen Member Posts: 50
    While DAoC is actually adding new stuff to the game, WoW is just adding the same thing all over again... Blood elf? nah, just looks like a very angry night elf. and about those "new" instances... theres nothing new in them... just hating all those instances... the only thing getting new with them, is the amount of members u need in ur raid to finish it. Play DAoC if u dont wanna repeat ur ass of 

  • HumidifierHumidifier Member Posts: 8

    Never played DAoC, but it is supposed to be good. Go with that. I played WoW to 60 and I have to tell you it sucks. When you're 60, all you do is run the same instance once or twice a week depending on your guild 4 hours each time. IF you're guild is really good, then you'll be doing 3-4 different instances 4 hours each time, but you'll usually be doing one each night. They're funt eh first two times each, then they get very very old. I mean, when you see the bosses that people always talk about the first time, it's fun and exciting. Then you kill him ten times and it's just the same old stuff. You just go over and over again hoping for your better gear. I usually have this argument with my friends. Me and my friends are all 60, and they do MC (end game instance) whereas I quit. They only do MC now, nothing else. I say, "Why do MC? You get good gear to do more MC, but nothing else." and they usually don't know why they do it. The reason is they are addicted. WoW has been proven to have the same effects on the brain as marijuana. It sounds stupid, but it's true. It's not even fun in the late game anyway.

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449

    Originally posted by Yaros
    For DAoC they added Darkness Rising exapnsion - horses, champion weapons, champion levels, good expansion imo, levels are easy, not grind and interesting storyline (and you don't really need then, they are just small, but nice addition; and you can get then by rvr). And Catacombs - some nice items, new dungeons, good for fast leveling, but you probably saw that already, I think its older then one year.
    For WoW they making are expansion: 2 new races (blood elves and blue demons from space), 10 more levels and more instanced dungeons to raid.



    yeah, what he said. 

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • GreyfaceGreyface Member Posts: 390

    Here's my take on the difference, if you'll forgive a really thin metaphor:

    WoW is the prettiest girl in school - the captain of the cheerleading squad and the one everyone wants to take to the prom.  You get a date with her and you're thrilled out of your mind.  "I can't believe she's even talking to me!" you think.  You get two or three more dates and things are going great.  Then, after six months of an increasingly serious relationship, you suddenly realize that she has absolutely no personality and she's never, ever going to let you get past second base.  What's more, she's really jealous and gets mad if you spend a night just hanging out with your friends.  She leaves psycho messages on your voice mail and keys your car.  That's what WoW is like.

    DAoC is the girl from your AP English class.  Really smart, kind of cute in a weird, tortise-shell eyeglasses kind of way, but really shy and just a little offputting.  But you put in the time to get to know her, and you realize that she is a very cool person with plenty to offer.  Although she had trouble letting on at first, she actually does like you -- a lot --  and tries really hard to please you.  And when the relationship finally becomes physical, she turns out to be a real freak.  Sure, you probably end up going to different colleges, but you always look back fondly on the time you spent together.

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