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Enigma
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People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
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yeh well, heres why:
UPDATE:
We just received confirmation that this is in fact a legitimate IRC Chat log!
Confirmation added.
Someone has found a screenshot of an IRC chat where Vuuarr has stated the following at DnL-fr IRC Chat:
Mirror 1
Mirror 2
what you can see is Vuuarr stating:
Which can be translated as :
The whole IRC Chat translated roughly into english goes as this by Anageth:
[19:55] <Vuuar> If no I need your energy to counter attack on MMORPG.com...
[19:55] <[No]Sirboss> oh yes?
[19:55] <[No]Syl> Pfff MMORPG.com...
[19:55] <[XZ]chedaa0taff> I cannnn't
[19:55] <[HA]Busar> got a link?
[19:55] <[No]Bledi-IG> what attack?
[19:55] <[No]Syl> and JoL....
[19:55] <[XZ]chedaa0taff> I don't have enough forum points on mmorpg
[19:55] <[No]Sirboss> and we have in exchange?
[19:55] <[No]Bledi-IG> sirboos sssh
[19:56] <[No]Bledi-IG> we are not here to do merchandise
[19:56] <[No]Syl> it's been a while since I visited this type of site!
[19:56] <Vuaar> I was there at the opening of the notation and less than an hour 15 people
came to 'break' us.
This was originally posted by Poulpe here: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/thread/80803/page/3
Below are some more addition to the IRC Chat as posted by a supporter of D&L:
Vuaar : ok, on ne vaut pas 10 partout. mais on ne vaut surement pas 3 partout...
Vuaar : C'est mon point de vue que je partage avec vous.
(rough translation)
Vuuar: I was there when they opened the site to the ratings. In less than an hour, 15 people came to bash us.
Vuuar: Okay, we may not diserve a 10 everywhere. But we certainly do not diserve a 3 everywhere.
Vuuar: This is my point of view, and I'm sharing it with you.
Below is a statement by Serpico confirming to us that Vuuarr did say the above statements in IRC Chat:
http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63501&page=2&pp=20
vbmenu_register("postmenu_1046031", true);
Some lines are missing in this log - his intent was the following: basically, he asked players to go vote on MMORPG.com, stating that even if - to his opinion, as he precised - DnL was not deserving a 10, it was not deserving a 3 either.
Maybe someone should tell Serpico that Vuuar made those addtional statements AFTER he said:
"I need your energy to counter the attack on MMORPG.com"
Now that we know the IRC Chat is indeed a FACT and NOT Fiction, please enjoy the following read:
You may need to use some sort of translator to read the above link.
You may use Babelfish for a rough French-to-English translations
"I need your energy to counter the attack on MMORPG.com"
Now that we know the IRC Chat is indeed a FACT and NOT Fiction, please enjoy the following read:
You may need to use some sort of translator to read the above link.
You may use Babelfish for a rough French-to-English translations
and this:
And the excuse for his mods?
http://darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8475&page=3&pp=20
Take a look at the post by Neorapsta:
lol, if people want to cheat, they can vote 10 for DnL and then 1 for the others
Someone has to wonder what those 2 last post have anything to do with the OP... but well maybe i will try this pirate thingy later, when i get sick of looking at the DnL forum (but they are so much fun right now
)
I hope no one makes fun of me but its a nice casual game to play. Chat or do some puzzles (who doesn't like the odd puzzle game now and then)
I do'nt think it should be on MMORPG.com though, its not really an MMORPG
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See below, forum error made many posts:-P
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Another half of the bad raitings which are hitting many games that come out, come from the loyal fanboys of WoW. There's a cult following of 12/13 year olds (not to generalize with that age group, I was quite beyond them at that age, and I've known others who are too), or even older, who love their WoW so much they feel any competitor should suffer all ways possible. Nothing wrong with loving a game, but not bashing other games because of it. Do a few searches on the WoW forums on other sites, you'll understand what I'm talking about.
Also people have this anoing tendincy to either rate with 2 or 9, 2 or 9. They've gotta be the 3rd judge from American Idle who calles everything below spitshine polished the worst he's ever seen. You rearly see people now adays who truely have a real standard for rating. The people who mark 5's or 7's are usualy the real critics. I've only ever seen a handfull of games that deserve anything below a 4 (and a 4 to me is very poorly incorperated, but still there showing a bit of effort to look like they cared). Most mmo's out there deserve a solid 7 or the lowest a 6. Next time you judge something, see the colors inbetween the spectrum, not the lazy man's 2 or 9.
Last but not least, a judge must place themselves in the essince of the targeted audiance. If you're not part of that audiance, you can't simply call it crap, you're not evaluating for it's true customer. For example, I work for the Starbucks Coffee Company, our partners are expected to perticipate in coffee taistings. Many of our partners do not enjoy drinking black coffee, but they are still capable and expected to give details about flavor, texture, smell. They personaly wouldn't drink it black, but that doesn't make it 'nasty.' They are still capable of taisting the herbal or earthy tones, nutty flavors, and identifying them in a coffee. If you're the kind of person who only sees nasty, stay the hell away from raiting a game you have no part of. If you can learn to appriciate it for it's targeted audiance, you learn the true spectrum of the raiting meter. I'm not saying that if you didn't have fun with it that you can't give it a low raiting in that matter of aspect, but you mustn't slam it completely because it wasn't that perfect 10.
To me, it has a LOT of bugs and I have no quarel stating so, but it contains eliments I enjoy, things I've looked for in a game. A large world to explore with high altitudes that I can handglide over, a very custamizable class path, and enough complexity to get with the community to learn how something works or figure it out myself. It has a good solid backbone skill system and a combat system that has both simple classic DAoC/EQ style with some unique ideas and bigger umph. Being able to taim animals similar to the whole WoW Hunters, setting traps to spring as enemies stumble through them, effective AoE's that are flashy and effective (worth bothering to cast, really looking forward to seeing the high end Wizard's Armeggedon spells), being able to summon your own miniture undead army as a necromanser and animate corpses ontop of that, plus some great physics with blasting targets back and rolling/falling down steam hills (taking damage as your body smashes against the rocks:-P).
You may point your fingers, I do too, but they are going to come compared to other development teams who've nothing to show for their promises *caugh* SWG *caugh* I'll stick with a buggy game that slowly improves versis a game that abandoned it's ideals long ago
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polls and ratings here are for idiots. its all padded junk
I miss DAoC
Hmm, wonder if it managed to keep all of its promises to its fanbase. Perhaps that was the key to its "success"...
Yeah, I blame WoW for DnL's failure.
Damn that WoW!!
It's a very common complaint on the DnL board. Most threads have this basic tone:
OP: I'm having trouble. I killed the starting bugs in my starting town, and now my own merchants won't speak to me.
Game Defender: You have gained bad faction with your town's God, this isn't WoW.. You should never have killed the Lvl1 critters that were placed 10 meters from your starting spot..
OP: But what was I supposed to do? Those were the only things I could kill, and none of the NPCs talk to me, so how would I know?
Game Defender: Listen you little kid, get on a ballon and within a few jumps you will be in a starting town you can actually start in.. If you can't handle that, go back to WoW.
OP: But I read that I needed to buy armor to have any chance to live, but it broke and disappeared after 4 kills. Now I'm broke and that ballon costs money to ride, and I don't know where they go.. Help
Game Defender: You should have crafted your armor, then you'd have the money to ride to a starting town and start the game. If you stick with it you will be level 35 by Christmas, if you can't handle that you have ADD and nead medication and a trip back to WoW.
OP: Well I was going to craft some armor, but there is nowhere to craft anything, and the ingredients seem to cost more than just buying it. Also, I don't understand why a loaf of bread costs 10x the amount of a Breatplate.. Does that make sense?
Game Defender: You simply are too immature to understand complex market theory.. You just don't understand that this game has massively complex concepts that WoW can't touch..
OP: Well, I tried, but I'm not having fun.
Game Defender: Fun is going to be implemented in the next patch. As for you; we don't need your type. WoW is destroying the world, but it won't destroy ours. Go away kid..
The threads usually go downhill after that..
God knows DnL isn't getting bad ratings becasue it is about as much fun as a root canal. That could never have anything to do withthe sucky ratings now could it.
Never played Puzzle Pirtes myself, but I know a couple of people who swear it is fun.
/quote
activities that are enjoyable or amusing; "I do it for the fun of it"; "he is fun to have around"
Recreation is the employment of time in a non-profitable way, in many ways also a therapeutic refreshment of one's body or mind. Recreation is often distinguished from leisure. Where leisure is, or ought to be, restful, recreation is refreshing and diverting. As people in the world's wealthier regions lead more and more sedentary life styles, the need for recreation has grown.
/quote
notice there is nothing in there about slamming you head into the wall from frustration. Take note NP3
I miss DAoC
It's a very common complaint on the DnL board. Most threads have this basic tone:
OP: I'm having trouble. I killed the starting bugs in my starting town, and now my own merchants won't speak to me.
Game Defender: You have gained bad faction with your town's God, this isn't WoW.. You should never have killed the Lvl1 critters that were placed 10 meters from your starting spot..
OP: But what was I supposed to do? Those were the only things I could kill, and none of the NPCs talk to me, so how would I know?
Game Defender: Listen you little kid, get on a ballon and within a few jumps you will be in a starting town you can actually start in.. If you can't handle that, go back to WoW.
OP: But I read that I needed to buy armor to have any chance to live, but it broke and disappeared after 4 kills. Now I'm broke and that ballon costs money to ride, and I don't know where they go.. Help
Game Defender: You should have crafted your armor, then you'd have the money to ride to a starting town and start the game. If you stick with it you will be level 35 by Christmas, if you can't handle that you have ADD and nead medication and a trip back to WoW.
OP: Well I was going to craft some armor, but there is nowhere to craft anything, and the ingredients seem to cost more than just buying it. Also, I don't understand why a loaf of bread costs 10x the amount of a Breatplate.. Does that make sense?
Game Defender: You simply are too immature to understand complex market theory.. You just don't understand that this game has massively complex concepts that WoW can't touch..
OP: Well, I tried, but I'm not having fun.
Game Defender: Fun is going to be implemented in the next patch. As for you; we don't need your type. WoW is destroying the world, but it won't destroy ours. Go away kid..
The threads usually go downhill after that..
Great post Galaxy. Whats funny and sad about your post is its true. You really captured the twisted logic of the DnL Fanboys. They really should sticky your quote so people know what to expect from these DnL Fanboys.