^ I'll take that as a flame, and I've had many, so don't worry I'm not upset
I just see it differently. I sometimes see that it is alright for the "hatebois" to do the same, but it is not alright for the "fanbois". Such as criticize, share opinions. I gave my reason, and you don't have to like it
You have just "shared you opinion" like myself ( except in a far more outraged way btw ). I did it in a far sweeter way ... so... forget it... we can't solve this anyway, we are on opposing fronts, and us humans are just crap at solving conflicts
Have a good day
I have no problem when a fan that ACTUALLY has been IN-GAME to D&L defends his game. I do have a problem when someone that has NEVER logged into D&L starts attacking "hatebois" specially when they ONLY have ASSUMPTIONS and NOT FACTS in hand.
Blacksac, you have been attacking "hatebois" for a very long time yet you yourself keep crusading on how POSITIVE and GREAT this game is yet YOU will NOT buy it yet! Then have the nerve to ATTACK "hatebois" that has been in-game and some that actually BOUGHT the game!!! Put your foot where you mouth is and GET the game then tell us how GREAT it is.
^ Kilim I'll admit I'm not as qualified to rate this game as many on here, but many are about the same (I've at least played every other version of this game, plus being very well read up), many even less qualified to comment than me (one example I can think of is JD, he is about the same or a liitle less), and yet you never tell them to stop having an opinion. Do that and I'll listen to you.
So I don't see your comments as fair, and this makes me pay less attention to them... can't be helped sorry
I have my opinion, and I'm not saying the game is great at this time. Logically If I thought that I would be playing now, but I will wait a month or 2 and see what happens, watch the patches, and progress.
The reason why you generate flames is because you have been the poster-boy for DnL with posts like this post, yet are not playing DnL in its present incarnation. You talk about DnL "feature wise" has if DnL is innovative, revolutionary features that no other game on the market has.
DnL is another Horizons where all the 'potential' that initially drew in players is merely hyperbole, that failed to materialize in execution and delivery. Where are these features ingame now? Not in x months time, but now! Yet you still promote a game that you do not play.
Can you not see how mendacious it is to constantly post ingame screen-shots, forthcoming 'features', and other promotional items, drawing in perspective players, yet take pot shots at posters like Kilim who wish to warn such players of the actual reality of DnL.
This is why your posts generate so much criticism. The aphorism 'actions speak louder than words' is apt in this instance. Despite all of your plugs and promotion of DnL, you are promoting a 'concept' (potential) that right now, does not - and in all probablity, based upon the evidence we've seen, will not - exist ingame. Not now, not x months down the line.
The fact that you're not playing DnL right now, is all that needs to be said.
Regards, Riotgirl
"If you think I'm plucky and scrappy and all I need is love, you're in way over your head. I don't have a heart of gold or get nice. There are a lot nicer people coming up. We call them losers."
Originally posted by Riotgirl The fact that you're not playing DnL right now, is all that needs to be said. Regards, Riotgirl
Great post Riotgirl
I quoted the bit that really says what my position is
Part of being a fan for me is to post info on the game, thats what I do when I'm a fan. As far as warnings go that part is covered by you guys.
I'm just waiting and keeping myself occupied/intouch with the game by hosting fan news and material. If I feel after 2 months this game is not for me, sadly I'm out of here.
Originally posted by blacksac ^ Kilim I'll admit I'm not as qualified to rate this game as many on here, but many are about the same (I've at least played every other version of this game, plus being very well read up), many even less qualified to comment than me (one example I can think of is JD, he is about the same or a liitle less), and yet you never tell them to stop having an opinion. Do that and I'll listen to you. So I don't see your comments as fair, and this makes me pay less attention to them... can't be helped sorry I have my opinion, and I'm not saying the game is great at this time. Logically If I thought that I would be playing now, but I will wait a month or 2 and see what happens, watch the patches, and progress. I've waited 3 years, I can wait 2 months more. Cheers
I think JD, he is named Hound in the D&L Forums, actually posted somewhere that he did in fact try out D&L in its current incarnation just to prove to himself he is right along with others.
You opinion is yours and everyone has their opinion. But attacking "hatebois" for their FACTUAL Data when all you have are ASSUMPTIONS and the Advertisement that Farlan gives out are just not right.
At this time your service to Farlan reminds me of what Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, the Iraqi Minister of Information, was doing during the entire Iraqi Conflict. The ONLY difference between you and MSS is that he is actually there and knows the FACTS and yet addresses his Nation with DECEIT & LIES. He knows what he is doing is wrong.
Comparatively, its as if you are just an apprentice of MSS spreading his words even though you are not even there and not have any FACTUAL Data. Worst thing is you attack those that has posted the FACTUAL Data for themselves.
So like I have said. Please STOP attacking those that are actually posting FACTUAL Data about D&L, those that are labeled "Hatebois". At least buy or borrow D&L for yourself so you can actually have 1st hand experience if the "Hatebois" are worthy of being ATTACKED by your "Wisdom" and "Martyrdom". Then and only then are you more than legible to ATTACK the "Hatebois" and continue on your crusade to spread the "Greatness and Potential" of D&L.
At this time, having not played the release version of D&L yourself and experience what WE ALL have been trying to say, you have no foundation to ATTACK the "Hatebois". Buy or borrow a D&L Account and experience its "Potential". Then we have no problem for you to be a Martyr in this great game of yours and continue on spreading your advertisement of the game in every media you can find.
Until you do that, you just sound like a paid employee of Farlan.
PS: I myself am a fan of many games. I even actually made some sections of my website specificly to host info about the game I was following. I also even posted in various forums the info I have acquired. So I know what it means to be a fan also.
Great post Riotgirl I quoted the bit that really says what my position is Part of being a fan for me is to post info on the game, thats what I do when I'm a fan. As far as warnings go that part is covered by you guys. I'm just waiting and keeping myself occupied/intouch with the game by hosting fan news and material. If I feel after 2 months this game is not for me, sadly I'm out of here. Regards
The problem is, people who post negative comments on this site post about their personal experiences with the game, bugs, crashes, missing "features" you are so fond of. In comparizon to those people, all you post is "this game will be great" or "when they fix all the bugs and implement all these features this game will be best of all".
Dont expect a warm welcome just becuase your desires for D&L are bright - most people on this board actually BOUGHT this game and failed to play it becuase they cant log in, becuase the content is not present, because there is not much to do in D&L ( all those "features" from the list are magically missing )/
In short, hateboys post facts, fanboys post desires. The premium price Farlan is charging, however, is not from their dreams, its an actual charge. people expect to get something for what they paid.
please do not engage any further with Blacksac. Its another attempt to have a thread locked. He has done it several times before. Please do not allow this thread to get locked.
The devs stated they would be directing thier own programming for the moderate players computer. The devs also stated later, that it was programmed on a higher end configurations but would be made to allow "lesser" systems to play. The devs also stated later that you need the higher end system to play this game. The devs also stated a bit later that it is the Video card that would need to be high end and not an ATI. The devs stated later it was high RAM needed.
Problem is, even with an outstanding high end system, the problems in game are still there. The playability is inconstant, therefore what may seem to give your rig a good play one day, totally blows the next. The core is unstable and unreliable. At this point, a high end machine with lots of re-configuration, needs to be turned down in areas in order for a less than halfway performance.
The devs have no answers for you yet. Other than it is indeed the problem of YOUR computer and not thier work.
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Yeah give them a try, I hope you get some type of answer that works
Goodluck
I do have a problem when someone that has NEVER logged into D&L starts attacking "hatebois"
specially when they ONLY have ASSUMPTIONS and NOT FACTS in hand.
Blacksac, you have been attacking "hatebois" for a very long time yet you yourself keep crusading on how POSITIVE and GREAT this game is yet YOU will NOT buy it yet!
Then have the nerve to ATTACK "hatebois" that has been in-game and some that actually BOUGHT the game!!!
Put your foot where you mouth is and GET the game then tell us how GREAT it is.
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^ Kilim I'll admit I'm not as qualified to rate this game as many on here, but many are about the same (I've at least played every other version of this game, plus being very well read up), many even less qualified to comment than me (one example I can think of is JD, he is about the same or a liitle less), and yet you never tell them to stop having an opinion. Do that and I'll listen to you.
So I don't see your comments as fair, and this makes me pay less attention to them... can't be helped sorry
I have my opinion, and I'm not saying the game is great at this time. Logically If I thought that I would be playing now, but I will wait a month or 2 and see what happens, watch the patches, and progress.
I've waited 3 years, I can wait 2 months more.
Cheers
Blacksac,
The reason why you generate flames is because you have been the poster-boy for DnL with posts like this post, yet are not playing DnL in its present incarnation. You talk about DnL "feature wise" has if DnL is innovative, revolutionary features that no other game on the market has.
DnL is another Horizons where all the 'potential' that initially drew in players is merely hyperbole, that failed to materialize in execution and delivery. Where are these features ingame now? Not in x months time, but now! Yet you still promote a game that you do not play.
Can you not see how mendacious it is to constantly post ingame screen-shots, forthcoming 'features', and other promotional items, drawing in perspective players, yet take pot shots at posters like Kilim who wish to warn such players of the actual reality of DnL.
This is why your posts generate so much criticism. The aphorism 'actions speak louder than words' is apt in this instance. Despite all of your plugs and promotion of DnL, you are promoting a 'concept' (potential) that right now, does not - and in all probablity, based upon the evidence we've seen, will not - exist ingame. Not now, not x months down the line.
The fact that you're not playing DnL right now, is all that needs to be said.
Regards,
Riotgirl
"If you think I'm plucky and scrappy and all I need is love, you're in way over your head. I don't have a heart of gold or get nice. There are a lot nicer people coming up. We call them losers."
Great post Riotgirl
I quoted the bit that really says what my position is
Part of being a fan for me is to post info on the game, thats what I do when I'm a fan. As far as warnings go that part is covered by you guys.
I'm just waiting and keeping myself occupied/intouch with the game by hosting fan news and material. If I feel after 2 months this game is not for me, sadly I'm out of here.
Regards
You opinion is yours and everyone has their opinion.
But attacking "hatebois" for their FACTUAL Data when all you have are ASSUMPTIONS and the Advertisement that Farlan gives out are just not right.
At this time your service to Farlan reminds me of what Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, the Iraqi Minister of Information, was doing during the entire Iraqi Conflict.
The ONLY difference between you and MSS is that he is actually there and knows the FACTS and yet addresses his Nation with DECEIT & LIES.
He knows what he is doing is wrong.
Comparatively, its as if you are just an apprentice of MSS spreading his words even though you are not even there and not have any FACTUAL Data.
Worst thing is you attack those that has posted the FACTUAL Data for themselves.
So like I have said.
Please STOP attacking those that are actually posting FACTUAL Data about D&L, those that are labeled "Hatebois".
At least buy or borrow D&L for yourself so you can actually have 1st hand experience if the "Hatebois" are worthy of being ATTACKED by your "Wisdom" and "Martyrdom".
Then and only then are you more than legible to ATTACK the "Hatebois" and continue on your crusade to spread the "Greatness and Potential" of D&L.
At this time, having not played the release version of D&L yourself and experience what WE ALL have been trying to say, you have no foundation to ATTACK the "Hatebois".
Buy or borrow a D&L Account and experience its "Potential".
Then we have no problem for you to be a Martyr in this great game of yours and continue on spreading your advertisement of the game in every media you can find.
Until you do that, you just sound like a paid employee of Farlan.
PS:
I myself am a fan of many games.
I even actually made some sections of my website specificly to host info about the game I was following.
I also even posted in various forums the info I have acquired.
So I know what it means to be a fan also.
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My Sager 5760 Review
Dont expect a warm welcome just becuase your desires for D&L are bright - most people on this board actually BOUGHT this game and failed to play it becuase they cant log in, becuase the content is not present, because there is not much to do in D&L ( all those "features" from the list are magically missing )/
In short, hateboys post facts, fanboys post desires. The premium price Farlan is charging, however, is not from their dreams, its an actual charge. people expect to get something for what they paid.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
please do not engage any further with Blacksac. Its another attempt to have a thread locked. He has done it several times before. Please do not allow this thread to get locked.
The devs stated they would be directing thier own programming for the moderate players computer. The devs also stated later, that it was programmed on a higher end configurations but would be made to allow "lesser" systems to play. The devs also stated later that you need the higher end system to play this game. The devs also stated a bit later that it is the Video card that would need to be high end and not an ATI. The devs stated later it was high RAM needed.
Problem is, even with an outstanding high end system, the problems in game are still there. The playability is inconstant, therefore what may seem to give your rig a good play one day, totally blows the next. The core is unstable and unreliable. At this point, a high end machine with lots of re-configuration, needs to be turned down in areas in order for a less than halfway performance.
The devs have no answers for you yet. Other than it is indeed the problem of YOUR computer and not thier work.