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"Beta is for US residents only"- Getting sick of that!

It has been too many times I have seen this retarded message pop-up after a full registration:

"Sorry. Beta is open for US & Canada residents only".

Dear publishers,

#1: Europe has 100 Million more residents
#2: Internet penetration is at the same level and Western Europe even exceeds US

So what is this all about?

Can't afford to co-host a server somehwere in Europe 'cause you haven't  been out of state before?
Nahhh.., so get moving and make sure you penetrate the largest market of the world from the very start. You bunch of anti-marketeers.

The world doesn't stop at Cape Cod.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • digitydarkmandigitydarkman Member Posts: 2,194



    Originally posted by Richter

    The world doesn't stop at Cape Cod.



    nope but i guess mmorpgs do.. well good ones anyway

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  • ShmeeShmee Member Posts: 321
    Yeah it pisses me off heaps to, i get perfect connections to US servers anyway.

  • DhaemanDhaeman Member Posts: 531

    Well, if the company sends out beta CDs then it costs more to ship it overseas...however since most companies seem to do downloads, I have no idea what the problem is.

    Saga of Ryzom is european as is Dark & Light I believe, so maybe you will get to play those before us in the western hemisphere.

  • babywaxbabywax Member Posts: 16
    They can get plenty of people in U.S., and since their servers are most likely located in the U.S., they decide to not let any laggers on and just do it that way... Oh well, sorry you can't get many betas image

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  • AdminAdmin Administrator RarePosts: 5,623

    FIRST: The Wish beta is open to all...I goofed and forgot to pull the country checker from the contest rules.  Please try to enter again!  I am REALLY sorry about this.

    SECOND: I think the biggest reason companies do this is the NDA.  They have no legal weight outside of US laws.  If someone takes the software and account and posts it on Kazza there is nothing the software company can do...and this scares them :)

     

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  • YordoYordo Member Posts: 831
    I agree with what your saying Admin, but I'm sure there's a lot of European people on this site who are a bit dissapointed that one of the top games won't even allow them to test :(

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  • AdminAdmin Administrator RarePosts: 5,623

    Yeah, I can see their point 100%.  My point is to go complain on their forums, not ours image

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  • AdminAdmin Administrator RarePosts: 5,623



    Originally posted by Richter

    Can't afford to co-host a server somehwere in Europe 'cause you haven't  been out of state before?
    Nahhh.., so get moving and make sure you penetrate the largest market of the world from the very start. You bunch of anti-marketeers.



    Well, it is important to think that the point of beta testing is not for the worlds entertainment.  The purpose of these tests is to work the bugs out of the game and test server loads, etc.  To run a multi-national beta test (at least having servers across the globe) would only add to their headaches and serve no real gain...other than making non-US fans more happy.

    I think it makes sense for a game developer to keep the servers local, where they can easily monitor and admister them.  It would not supprise me to see games developed in Korea or Europe not allowing US customers to beta...it is just logical.

    Some of these companies (like Mutable Realms) are allowing anyone to beta, but they are still not setting up servers in other countries...they just make to connect from afar.

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  • EzikeilEzikeil Member Posts: 148
    I have yet to see a mmorpg from europe that excluded any1, It's the mentality that gets us everytime, but as long as I get to play it when it's released on the US servers I'm happy.

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  • RaxmanRaxman Member Posts: 59



    Originally posted by Ezikeil
    I have yet to see a mmorpg from europe that excluded any1, It's the mentality that gets us everytime, but as long as I get to play it when it's released on the US servers I'm happy.

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    www.ryzom.com

    this game excluded americans until just before christmas except some news guys and site owners.

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  • EzikeilEzikeil Member Posts: 148



    Originally posted by Raxman



    Originally posted by Ezikeil
    I have yet to see a mmorpg from europe that excluded any1, It's the mentality that gets us everytime, but as long as I get to play it when it's released on the US servers I'm happy.

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    www.ryzom.com

    this game excluded americans until just before christmas except some news guys and site owners.


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    Uhm I have been signed up for that beta even b4 they changed company, never did I see anywhere that they were excluding sign ups by US/Canada so I believe you are wrong.

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  • RaxmanRaxman Member Posts: 59

    actually beta 1 (under GOA) was exclusive to Europe it even said so on their site back then.

    I don't think there are that many more americans in beta 2

     

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  • EzikeilEzikeil Member Posts: 148
    Well you're the first to tell me that and I'm wondering how my US friend managed to sign up at the same time I did then.

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  • RaxmanRaxman Member Posts: 59
    I never said Signups where strictly European however Goa wanted to first invote the euros :)

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  • neschrianeschria Member UncommonPosts: 1,406

    Your friend must have slid in on pure luck or something. I also recall the first beta being EU only.

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  • OmolOmol Member Posts: 332
    Didnt read the beta application carefully then. I too remember the first phase being for Eruos only also.

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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263
    I know of a ton of MMORPGs that where hosted first in the UK/JAP area...  Look at EVE, their servers are on Iceland. :)

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  • TaskyZZTaskyZZ Member Posts: 1,476

    Also, if the developers get players who are in the same geographical location (US only for instance) then there is more of a chance that those players will be playing at similar times, so they can have the server loading they want.  And they will have a better idea of when most of those players will be online so they can monitor the players more closely and be reay for support issues and whatnot.

     

  • ThoemseThoemse Member UncommonPosts: 457


    Originally posted by babywax
    They can get plenty of people in U.S., and since their servers are most likely located in the U.S., they decide to not let any laggers on and just do it that way... Oh well, sorry you can't get many betas YOU WAS WAXED!
    Laggers. LOL
    Under wich stone did you live the last years.
    I can play FF XI with perfect latency from here. AUSTRIA
    That'S in europe... for the US ones here since i keep explaining this.
    Austria is NOT down under.

    FF XI is on japanese Servers.
    I ping around 90 to 110 to US MMORPG servers wich is WAY more than needed to play smooth.

    Stop posting such bullcrap in the future man.

  • CamaalisCamaalis Member Posts: 44

    Well Saga of Ryzom is Europe only atm, so you guys end up on top there. Also I believe the reason is partially due to the laws and also about a publisher. Most games don't get European publishers until the game is near release (as they mainly just distribute the product) where as North American publishers prefer to invest in the game at the beginning and own the rights to it (IE EA and UBI).

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  • YordoYordo Member Posts: 831
    It does end up coming out fair because there are games that people have said which originate in Europe and have strictly foreign servers to the US.  However, it's kind of nasty for them right now because some of the big names coming out are going to be primarily US or strictly US, such as Lineage 2.

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  • JustinLawJustinLaw Member Posts: 1

    Well If you think about it there is also Y's online which is also eu only so I have no idea how many games are eu only but there are a few so its not only the Us who does closed beta open to only its residents It is also in EU the same on  some of its games

  • LiljnaLiljna Member UncommonPosts: 274

    Holy Necropost,  Batman!

     

    This thread is 5 years old, no reason to dig it up, just to comment on it, is there?

     

    Perhaps start a new thread about this, if it is still a problem?

  • eight675309eight675309 Member Posts: 246

    Actually, there are a lot of games, usually not the mainstream ones of course, that are only in europe and/or asia. Probably far more than those games for north america. Believe it or not.

  • Cephus404Cephus404 Member CommonPosts: 3,675

    There are a lot of reasons for it, sometimes the company doen't have the rights to whatever property that they are licensing outside of the U.S. and/or Canada, therefore they cannot let people outside of those areas play.  Secondly, as someone else has said, the non-disclosure agreement has zero legal weight outside of the U.S.  There are always legal reasons why these things are done, just as there are some games that are done specifically for the Asian market.

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