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Guild wars and Eve online

CrrashCrrash Member Posts: 2
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i already tried trials of both games, but i just cant see what makes them so good...

the times i've played i just missed the thing that happens with wow, that you are doing a quest alone and suddenly another guy appears, you join him and youll start doing quests together.

Eve seemed very repetitive to me, and although there was an extensive chat feature, when i flew around and even saw other ships, i felt very alone (actually it being in space and all, the "alone" feeling isn that wrong)

Guild wars youll have lots of people there, that you can meet in cities and stuff, sure, but as soon as you get out your alone, cant hope that someone appears and saves you. it seems to me like "join someone in a city or youll be alone for a looong time". ok that is excused to because the game is called guild wars and basically tells you to create a guild so your not that alone.

so what makes you rather play a game like guild wars or EVE than a game like say... WoW?

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Guild wars, I have many friends who play, so if I play, I play with them by arrangement. I've never played a casual game without my team mates ther ein the actual room with me.

    Eve, is not so much social in game as social out of game.

    You can play it in the living room and still talk to everyone in the house. Your wife will not leave you if you play it, because it is so undemanding that you will be pleased to have her company while playing it.

    Eves theme intrests me more than WoW's theme, WoW's theme intrests me more than Guild wars theme. I played each in turn and not one over another.

  • apertotesapertotes Member Posts: 363

    Originally posted by Crrash

    so what makes you rather play a game like guild wars or EVE than a game like say... WoW?

    it is about posibilities. EVE is open ended, with a huge skill tree where you can freely choose what to do, be it trading, fighting, pirating, mining, researching, producing, be a politician... and anything you do can affect the world cause both economy and politics are player run. bottom line is that it can be VERY slow at times, takes some time to get into, and if you only care about PVE you will be very disappointed.

    the difference between EVE and WoW for me is like if we compare Warcraft 3 or Age of Empires and Civilization. for me Civ offers many more options and i enjoy it much more than AoE where reflexes are more important than planification.

    but if all you want to do is questing, raiding and killing orcs, then WoW is your game. it also comes with free elves ::::08::

  • Distortion0Distortion0 Member Posts: 668

    What makes Guild Wars good is (supposedly, I don't know this first-hand) it's skill requiring combat and the fact is has no monthly fee.

    What people say makes EVE good is how you can fight over space stations, it's "ub3r-2w33t" market economy, and it "geat PvP" but most of all because it is the least immersive/time consuming game ever. Personaly, I think it's 'great' because it's fanboys never shut up about it.

    Personaly I have the same problems that you do with the games, although it was kind of cool coming back and being able to play Guild Wars just because I wanted to try it again.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    I tend to play games with a greater risk vs. reward

    I love rewarding games, but I really love games where I feel I am risking a lot.  where building my character means something and at each turn I need to take care.

    but honestly, I dont just play one game over another.  I drift a lot.  I may subscribe to Eve for a month or two and cancel it because I resubscribed to WoW and it has all my attention.

    I play Eve, lineage 2, Eq2, WoW.  I usually keep 2 accounts open, sometimes just one.  But I never dedicate myself to a MMO

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  • pkim96pkim96 Member Posts: 168

    Originally posted by Rayx0r

    but honestly, I dont just play one game over another.  I drift a lot.  I may subscribe to Eve for a month or two and cancel it because I resubscribed to WoW and it has all my attention.
    I play Eve, lineage 2, Eq2, WoW.  I usually keep 2 accounts open, sometimes just one.  But I never dedicate myself to a MMO
    I'm kinda like this now because I haven't been able to find a new home.  It does keep it interesting to switch around, but there is big problem.  It's hard to maintain any sense of community or keep good relationships if you are on and off so much.  That's my big regret...my favorite MMO memories are all from playing with friends, not just being solo. 

    I'll log back into a game and find I am the only one left in the guild or my friends don't play anymore.  It's sad.
  • DhaemanDhaeman Member Posts: 531
    These two games are the best because they are unique in a good way, not a bad way. They cut the MMORPG cliche mold and do what they do right. Doesn't mean they are for everyone but for what they want to be, they are the best in my opinion.


  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111
    WoW is better than either of them.

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  • TeeBeeNZTeeBeeNZ Member Posts: 259
    GW is considered good because it solves common MMO issues and is based around player skill.  Eve is considered good as its a simply well done original MMO which is not the same old crap. WoW is considered good by many as its the ultimate old gen MMO, however just as many consider its crap for the same reasons.

  • CrrashCrrash Member Posts: 2

    actually i really like EVE, the ambient is great, and wow is the world big. but often it remembers me of X2 with  IRC chat channels window.

    well from what you describe what makes you like those games, im sure its not worth for me to buy/subscribe them. a shame, a game without monthly fees rox :P

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449

    Originally posted by Crrash

    i already tried trials of both games, but i just cant see what makes them so good...
    the times i've played i just missed the thing that happens with wow, that you are doing a quest alone and suddenly another guy appears, you join him and youll start doing quests together.
    Eve seemed very repetitive to me, and although there was an extensive chat feature, when i flew around and even saw other ships, i felt very alone (actually it being in space and all, the "alone" feeling isn that wrong)
    Guild wars youll have lots of people there, that you can meet in cities and stuff, sure, but as soon as you get out your alone, cant hope that someone appears and saves you. it seems to me like "join someone in a city or youll be alone for a looong time". ok that is excused to because the game is called guild wars and basically tells you to create a guild so your not that alone.

    so what makes you rather play a game like guild wars or EVE than a game like say... WoW?
    guild wars doesn't have "fun" pve imo.  seems like you just find other people and fight in an arena.  never could get into it.

    wow is the dummied down version of a real mmorpg.  if you want a no brainer game, hit this one until level 60.  at 60 either make a new toon or (if you have no social life/obligations) start spending all your leisure time grinding mindlessly in raid dungeons.

    eve requires thought.  it's not a dummied down anything.  it requires you to think.  i think that's part of what turns some people away from it.  those people play wow.

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • arry2002ukarry2002uk Member Posts: 14

    Originally posted by TeeBeeNZ
    GW is considered good because it solves common MMO issues and is based around player skill.  Eve is considered good as its a simply well done original MMO which is not the same old crap. WoW is considered good by many as its the ultimate old gen MMO, however just as many consider its crap for the same reasons.
    As a Guild Wars player what I find gives it that extra spark is (1) it is based around player skill rather than being able to buy power (eg. armour, weapons etc) and (2) it forces the player into participating in teamwork in an attempt to give it that true community feel.  Only problem is it's so dumbed down and the "private" maps are both a blessing and a curse.
  • AwesomeoAwesomeo Member UncommonPosts: 133
    For me i can play GW and EVE for a lot more longer than WoW. WoW gets realy boring after awhile and doesn't have the same feeling of team work as GW has.

  • RK-MaraRK-Mara Member Posts: 641
    I dont count Guild Wars as MMO, its Online but not MM. Only place where it's MMO is in towns/outposts but its just selling stuff/party searching. Almost the same as Diablo 2 but no one takes it as MMO. It's good game to have because you can just play it when you are bored.

    EVE is then really great game but not for everyone, if you love fantasy get WoW.


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  • OldManFunkOldManFunk Member Posts: 894
    GW PvP is pretty fun if you can get past the boring PvE. The problem with GW is that it doesn't feel like you're playing in a game world. GW feels more like a MMO version of a FPS.

    In order to enjoy EvE you need an over-active imagination, a good book or the inability to access a computer for weeks at a time. But then again if you have an active imagination you can join an IRC server and just pretend like you're mining rocks for free.

    Different games for different people.
  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    EVE is a virtual world type game.  People who like linear type games where you follow the golden path (as is the case in WoW), generally hate EVE because it's a sandbox game ... the "meat" of EVE is alliances, politics, market economics, territorial warfare, intrigue and so forth, that is the "end game", and new players often don't see that, try to play the game alone (which gets very boring after a while) and lose interest in it.  But to be honest, it's a completely different game style from WoW.

    GW is a good game, in my opinion.  It's a totally inconsequential, "light" game, that I play as a diversion from EVE.  EVE, for me at least, is a "serious" game, and so it's nice to sometimes play GW for an hour or two just for some  inconsequential release.


  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    Originally posted by Crrash

    i already tried trials of both games, but i just cant see what makes them so good...

    the times i've played i just missed the thing that happens with wow, that you are doing a quest alone and suddenly another guy appears, you join him and youll start doing quests together.

    Eve seemed very repetitive to me, and although there was an extensive chat feature, when i flew around and even saw other ships, i felt very alone (actually it being in space and all, the "alone" feeling isn that wrong)

    Guild wars youll have lots of people there, that you can meet in cities and stuff, sure, but as soon as you get out your alone, cant hope that someone appears and saves you. it seems to me like "join someone in a city or youll be alone for a looong time". ok that is excused to because the game is called guild wars and basically tells you to create a guild so your not that alone.

    so what makes you rather play a game like guild wars or EVE than a game like say... WoW?

    Because what little that WoW gives me that Guild Wars doesn't isn't worth $15 a month to me :)  Also there's the niggling little fact that I find WoW about as challenging as beating my 10yr old daughter at chess.

    As far as EVE?  I never enjoyed it either.  I don't play EVE.


    TBH there are only 2 MMO's currently on the market that I'd consider paying a monthly fee for:
    1) EQ2
    2) DAOC

    WoW isn't even in the running

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