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wich is better pally or warrior

shugooshugoo Member Posts: 149
i cant deside what to pick pally or warrior i need some help so come on fellow gamers share your opinions
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  • DrSmaShDrSmaSh Member UncommonPosts: 454
    There is no "better". All depands what you want to do and how you like to play.

    Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
  • HubabubaHubabuba Member Posts: 229

    Pally = healer class in plate

    Warrior = DPS class in plate

    Completely different play styles.

    In PVE...

    Paladins heal, basically making them a priest in plate.  Now if you like healing this isn't a bad thing, but if you are playing your paladin to be a melee/DPS character...well, you will not be doing much of that unless solo'ing.  You don't get invited to groups or raids for your low DPS, you get invited to heal, just keep that in mind when making your decision.  Another thing to consider is that most guilds/groups will generally give the better offensive related gear to warriors ahead of paladins.

    Warriors are the superior tanks, and superior DPS'ers (when they get the right gear) which gives the warrior two roles he can fill within a raid.  Typically on a raid as a warrior  I'll tank some bosses, off tank adds on other boss fights, off tank adds on big trash pulls, and DPS when not needed to tank.  Personally I love this flexability.  I think I'd go batty if my sole role in a raid was to spam the heal button.

    In PvP

    Paladins suck to fight against.  They are hard to kill for most classes, but at the same time they spend a lot of their PvP time healing and bubbling rather than actually fighting, so its not like they are a big threat on the battlefield.  They've only got 1 ranged attack which has a fairly long cooldown, so when engaged in a fight they spend a lot of time chasing people and not actually fighting.  Paladins also suffer from not having any real AE.  Sure they have their little AE thing, but its damage is very minor and of course all you have to do is run out of the range of it.

    Warriors are almost completely oposite.  We're not real hard to kill, but it does take some damage to get us down.  But in a good PvP group you will get some heals which transforms the warrior into a machine built for death and destruction.  Like paladins we don't have much in the way of ranged combat, we do have guns and bows but their damage is laughable, why shoot someone for 250-300 damage when you can smack them with your weapon for 2000+.  But unlike paladins we have two abilities to prevent people from running away from us, and we have two more abilties which help us get within melee range...its hard to keep a good warrior out of your face, and in your face is where a warrior is the biggest threat....a deadly combo.  Unlike paladins warriors have a few different AE attacks to choose from, making us most efficient while doing our job on the front line.

  • croyalcroyal Member Posts: 136
    umm the fact that pallys heal in plate and can bubble make them the MOST dangerous class on the battlefield.....blessing of freedom makes WSG against them hell.

    im not over powered! look it took me 10 minutes to kill that guy

  • AfritAfrit Member Posts: 288


    Originally posted by Hubabuba

    Pally = healer class in plate
    Paladins aren't healers dressed up in fancy plate armour. Paladins are dangerous enemies when it comes to close combat too.The way i see it, you can look at Paladins in different ways:
    1. Priest dressed in plate.
    2. Warriors with holy powers
    3. A hybrid class


    Warrior = DPS class in plate
    Completely different play styles.
    In PVE...
    Paladins heal, basically making them a priest in plate.  Now if you like healing this isn't a bad thing, but if you are playing your paladin to be a melee/DPS character...well, you will not be doing much of that unless solo'ing.  You don't get invited to groups or raids for your low DPS, you get invited to heal, just keep that in mind when making your decision.  Another thing to consider is that most guilds/groups will generally give the better offensive related gear to warriors ahead of paladins.
    Warriors are the superior tanks, and superior DPS'ers (when they get the right gear) which gives the warrior two roles he can fill within a raid.  Typically on a raid as a warrior  I'll tank some bosses, off tank adds on other boss fights, off tank adds on big trash pulls, and DPS when not needed to tank.  Personally I love this flexability.  I think I'd go batty if my sole role in a raid was to spam the heal button.
    In PvP
    Paladins suck to fight against.  They are hard to kill for most classes, but at the same time they spend a lot of their PvP time healing and bubbling rather than actually fighting, so its not like they are a big threat on the battlefield.  They've only got 1 ranged attack which has a fairly long cooldown, so when engaged in a fight they spend a lot of time chasing people and not actually fighting.  Paladins also suffer from not having any real AE.  Sure they have their little AE thing, but its damage is very minor and of course all you have to do is run out of the range of it.
    Warriors are almost completely oposite.  We're not real hard to kill, but it does take some damage to get us down.  But in a good PvP group you will get some heals which transforms the warrior into a machine built for death and destruction.  Like paladins we don't have much in the way of ranged combat, we do have guns and bows but their damage is laughable, why shoot someone for 250-300 damage when you can smack them with your weapon for 2000+.  But unlike paladins we have two abilities to prevent people from running away from us, and we have two more abilties which help us get within melee range...its hard to keep a good warrior out of your face, and in your face is where a warrior is the biggest threat....a deadly combo.  Unlike paladins warriors have a few different AE attacks to choose from, making us most efficient while doing our job on the front line.


    It depends really,

    If you like to get combat moves and better attacking moves go for Warrior. Paladins only get heals and buffs mainly - Seals are buffs.

    If you like to fight but also have the ability to heal, like me, then Paladin is good. I enjoy fighting close up and healing, so i picked the class in-between - the Paladin.
  • BobCrazytonBobCrazyton Member UncommonPosts: 2,117


    Originally posted by Hubabuba

    Pally = healer class in plate
    Warrior = DPS class in plate



    Warriors are most defiantly not supposed to be DPS. They're there to tank. Unless you go fury. Then you're just better off going rogue.

    But overall I'd say pallys are the most dangerous.

  • ExplodingmeExplodingme Member Posts: 25

    I'v had the most fun playing a pally. I don't like being a class that either gets killed easy, or can't heal themselves, which makes the pally the ideal class for me.

    I also like being able to wear plate, but the warrior seems so dull to me. You just run up and hit stuff, as opposed to running up, hitting stuff, healing, buffing, and just all round supporting your group.

    I found that a pally is usually the one to save a group too, either by keeping them alive by taking some or the damage, and healing, or in more extreme cases by using your shield spell and then resurecting everyone after the battle has died down.

    If you want my opinion, play a pally.

  • BobCrazytonBobCrazyton Member UncommonPosts: 2,117
    Oh ya thats another thing I forgot to mention. Warriors are extremely boring to play. I got to lvl 20 and found it hard to find the strength to go and level. But thats just me.
  • T3MainFrameT3MainFrame Member UncommonPosts: 7

    Its a question on what you like. Fury/arms warr's are full pvp, as far as PVE Warrs are 1 of the hardest class's to kill as Prot spec'ed out they just dont take dmg. They dont do a whole lot of dmg but thats not there job.

    Pallys:

    ret. speced are very hard to kill and are full PVP too. PVE pallys are Holy/prot. spec'ed. Large amounts of mana and dont add a whole lot of dmg in large raids in end game. yes they are healers in MC. but they are mor of a buffer between the main healers, and the full DPS class's.

    so Lets recap.

    War's fury/arms spec = Mad Dmg.

    War's Prot spec = Mad agro and low Dmg also take alot of dmg, very hard to kill

    ret pally = Mid dmg, plus healing = very hard to kill

    holy/prot pally = lots of armor and healing gear. even harder to kill then ret pallys as they normally have more mana. they do low dmg

  • If you want to tank you must go warrior.  Pallies can tank in 5-mans (if they know how) but at 60 you will be a buff bot/healer.

  • scubastevescubasteve Member Posts: 31
    Pally cant fight their way out of a wet paper bag

    pwnt

  • xuinashaxuinasha Member Posts: 117


    Originally posted by BobCrazyton

    Originally posted by Hubabuba

    Pally = healer class in plate
    Warrior = DPS class in plate


    Warriors are most defiantly not supposed to be DPS. They're there to tank. Unless you go fury. Then you're just better off going rogue.

    But overall I'd say pallys are the most dangerous.


    HA i outdamage rogues in DPS when I was fury... all you nee dis the right equipment. :P
    IMO,warriros are NOT boring,and are fun to play
    tho be warned if you want to be a warrior PLEASE CHOSOE HORDE!!!
    I played Night elf warrior.. god I HATE PALADINS taking armor or weapons that can also be used for warriors..
    trust me if paladin = allaince
    warriors = horde. :P
    its jsut better that way. :)
    *stabs paladins*
    warriors are the best in DPS,just get the right stuff.
    now fi your going to PvE only,go for a warrior, PvP paladin is fun but pvE paladin, in lvl 60 man raids all you mainly do is heal -_-

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  • xuinashaxuinasha Member Posts: 117


    Originally posted by T3MainFrame

    Its a question on what you like. Fury/arms warr's are full pvp, as far as PVE Warrs are 1 of the hardest class's to kill as Prot spec'ed out they just dont take dmg. They dont do a whole lot of dmg but thats not there job.

    Pallys:
    ret. speced are very hard to kill and are full PVP too. PVE pallys are Holy/prot. spec'ed. Large amounts of mana and dont add a whole lot of dmg in large raids in end game. yes they are healers in MC. but they are mor of a buffer between the main healers, and the full DPS class's.

    so Lets recap.
    War's fury/arms spec = Mad Dmg.
    War's Prot spec = Mad agro and low Dmg also take alot of dmg, very hard to kill
    ret pally = Mid dmg, plus healing = very hard to kill
    holy/prot pally = lots of armor and healing gear. even harder to kill then ret pallys as they normally have more mana. they do low dmg


    protect warriors cna do alot of amage.. overall when multi-targeting enemies..
    DoT bleeds, :P and revenge against rouges.. nothing else.. that we can even do TT_TT
    if warriors ever fight a magic user, better go protect gear/talent.


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  • TurboGsTurboGs Member Posts: 42
    k basically in end game instances etc. if u want to do something go warrior..... and if u want to stand at the back de-aggro casters and occasionally heal oh and dont forget the ever thrilling task of casting blessings on people go pala :)

  • shugooshugoo Member Posts: 149
    thx everyone i like pallys but i dont want to be some healing bitch lol so ill be warrior thx for your help
  • AfritAfrit Member Posts: 288


    Originally posted by shugoo
    thx everyone i like pallys but i dont want to be some healing bitch lol so ill be warrior thx for your help

    I'm sure everyone was happy to help.

    Although i must say, pallys dont heal well compared to druids and priests so most of the time you wont have to heal in raids. But, you will have to heal every so often to survive 'cause pallys dont have as much armour or health as warriors.

    Hope you have fun
  • dbischoffdbischoff Member Posts: 37
    In general warriors are more dps.Pallys are less dps except when twinked. It depends on if u are raiding or pvping.  See post below - i accidently double posted so i edited it


  • dbischoffdbischoff Member Posts: 37
    Pallys are harder to kill in pvp because of they bubbling and all. However they can also pwn if they have good weapons.As can a warrior. So being a twinked pally>warrior imo..


  • WickesWickes Member UncommonPosts: 749

    I have both, and as someone said above, the warrior is a bit boring.  If you like to solo, the warrior is a pain in the ass to solo.  Unlike what one poster commented above, a pally can fight his way out of practically anything.  Pallies are very tough to kill.  Warriors are not.  The only reason to be a warrior is if you want to focus primarily on group and raid tanking.

    [Didn't you just post two messages saying opposite things dbischoff =)]

  • Povey151Povey151 Member Posts: 250
    ok, the only people that ever say pally's are leet...or even good...are pally's. Everyone else thinks pally's are junk. To be honest id rather drop the pally in the raid group and have another priest. When I played horde pally's were the biggest joke, it was like beating up on the kid with downs syndrome at the elementary school playground.

  • ExplodingmeExplodingme Member Posts: 25


    Originally posted by Povey151
    ok, the only people that ever say pally's are leet...or even good...are pally's. Everyone else thinks pally's are junk. To be honest id rather drop the pally in the raid group and have another priest. When I played horde pally's were the biggest joke, it was like beating up on the kid with downs syndrome at the elementary school playground.


    That kinda makes sense... the people who like pallies the most are the people who play them... k. People who play rogues are the ones that like rogues the most! Rogues, by your logic then, suck. Because people play them.

    When I play horde, pallies were hated because they're so hard to kill and blessing of freedom made me sick in the BGs.

    Just to clear one thing up, everyone else doesn't think pallies are junk. When I play my rogue or mage, I love teaming with pallies. They're a class that can heal me and keep me alive without the fear of being destroyed themselves.

    Heal/buff botting in raids isn't that bad either. No matter what class you play, raids are boring.

  • Povey151Povey151 Member Posts: 250


    Originally posted by Explodingme

    Originally posted by Povey151
    ok, the only people that ever say pally's are leet...or even good...are pally's. Everyone else thinks pally's are junk. To be honest id rather drop the pally in the raid group and have another priest. When I played horde pally's were the biggest joke, it was like beating up on the kid with downs syndrome at the elementary school playground.


    That kinda makes sense... the people who like pallies the most are the people who play them... k. People who play rogues are the ones that like rogues the most! Rogues, by your logic then, suck. Because people play them.

    When I play horde, pallies were hated because they're so hard to kill and blessing of freedom made me sick in the BGs.

    Just to clear one thing up, everyone else doesn't think pallies are junk. When I play my rogue or mage, I love teaming with pallies. They're a class that can heal me and keep me alive without the fear of being destroyed themselves.

    Heal/buff botting in raids isn't that bad either. No matter what class you play, raids are boring.


    where did you get your logic deduction skills....the first sentence up there makes sense....the rest of that statement couldn't be farther from a proper analysis of what I said.
  • ExplodingmeExplodingme Member Posts: 25
    nope. You said that the people who like pallies play them. True. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the class.
  • NecranNecran Member Posts: 309

    According to alot of people who play WoW warriors are the top dps class, no matter how often this is proven wrong they stand by this, it makes perfect sense the game allowed the most armored class to do top damage.

    All kidding aside, Warriors get the lead role in raids, they run up and tank all the worst in the game, their job is to keep aggro off of the real dps classes like rogues and mages.

    Paladins are mainly a very tough support class, they can heal, rez, and also handle pretty hard hits if they have to.

    PvP is a whole other thing, but no one wants a Warror or pally specced for pvp to come along for a 40 man raid, unless they don't have a clue.


  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    pally's pwn warriors in pvp :P

  • NecranNecran Member Posts: 309


    Originally posted by Aseenus
    pally's pwn warriors in pvp :P



    That also is true.
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