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MilomMilom Member Posts: 2
My entire guild quit SWG with the NGE..all of us full template pre-cu jedi etc..

Question is...is it decent enough to come back?  We miss our community and maybe what friends might still be around, but that doesn't mean a whole lot if everything is all fubar'd

thanks





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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961
    It's still NGE.

    Nothing has changed.

    They did tweak stuff here and there, but it's NGE.

    However, if you consider things like default attack speed changed from 0.25 to 0.4 seconds, and dot duration changed from 10 to 15 seconds, then this is a whole new game.


  • royalpenaltyroyalpenalty Member Posts: 312

    FUBAR is a gross understatement.  this game is literally insulting to intelligent gamers and especially those who remember what SWG was in its prime.

    every single day on the Nazi boards are posts about 3 year vets getting fed up and cancelling.  hopefully it will continue and we will see a classic server offered from soe, or the emu will put SWG out of its misery once and for all.

    SWG ADDICT...clean since the NGE

  • SquidiSquidi Member Posts: 419


    Originally posted by Milom
    My entire guild quit SWG with the NGE..all of us full template pre-cu jedi etc..

    Question is...is it decent enough to come back?  We miss our community and maybe what friends might still be around, but that doesn't mean a whole lot if everything is all fubar'd





    They've fixed a lot of bugs and if the last time you played it was at the launch of the NGE, with terrible lag, invicible enemies, non-working specials, instant respawn timers, one character per server, having to use the right mouse button to fire specials rather than just typing the number - then the game is considerably more playable. It's still the NGE, and there's still issues, but it's a better NGE than you last saw. I, personally, play the game (almost) every night - just got my 3-year anniv reward - and I find the game to be more than "decent enough to come back".

    But don't listen to me. According to the people in this forum, for liking the NGE in its current state, I'm a troll and I work for SOE, so obviously it is my opinion that is clouded and not the one of the people here who write it $OE.
  • XcathdraXcathdra Member CommonPosts: 1,027


    Originally posted by Squidi

    Originally posted by Milom
    My entire guild quit SWG with the NGE..all of us full template pre-cu jedi etc..

    Question is...is it decent enough to come back?  We miss our community and maybe what friends might still be around, but that doesn't mean a whole lot if everything is all fubar'd


    They've fixed a lot of bugs and if the last time you played it was at the launch of the NGE, with terrible lag, invicible enemies, non-working specials, instant respawn timers, one character per server, having to use the right mouse button to fire specials rather than just typing the number - then the game is considerably more playable. It's still the NGE, and there's still issues, but it's a better NGE than you last saw. I, personally, play the game (almost) every night - just got my 3-year anniv reward - and I find the game to be more than "decent enough to come back".

    But don't listen to me. According to the people in this forum, for liking the NGE in its current state, I'm a troll and I work for SOE, so obviously it is my opinion that is clouded and not the one of the people here who write it $OE.


    Self deprecation is so unbercoming of you squidi....

    And to answer the question the game sucked when NGE hit.. True they have been adding fixes / patches etc... You need to ask yourself though why did you quit when the NGE came out? If it was because of lag and bugs and what not then you might enjoy whats there now. If you quit because you didnt like the combat then you might not like it since it is still the basterdized FPS.

    My advice is you should have a free 10 day vet trial, or you can try the 14 day tryout... Either or give it a shot (dont give em money though unless you want to resub) to see if you like it and go from there.

    All you are going to get in these threads are those of us who hate the NGE... And those who will support it as a needed change..

    Decide for yourself.

    Xcathdra

    Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
    Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
    Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

  • kymekyme Member Posts: 411

    Squidi I am currently playing the vet trial. I can now confirm you have been speaking lies! This hellish nightmare is NO where near decent. You should cease with your bullshit comments. It is not an opinion, it is fact this game is total shit. Read my vet review on page two of the forums. My server Eclipse is RUINED. It is a ghost town and I pity the current players. They deserve a better game.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by kyme

    Squidi I am currently playing the vet trial. I can now confirm you have been speaking lies! This hellish nightmare is NO where near decent. You should cease with your bullshit comments. It is not an opinion, it is fact this game is total shit. Read my vet review on page two of the forums. My server Eclipse is RUINED. It is a ghost town and I pity the current players. They deserve a better game.


    You are talking about an opinion, you are not talking about facts.

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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by kyme

    Squidi I am currently playing the vet trial. I can now confirm you have been speaking lies! This hellish nightmare is NO where near decent. You should cease with your bullshit comments. It is not an opinion, it is fact this game is total shit. Read my vet review on page two of the forums. My server Eclipse is RUINED. It is a ghost town and I pity the current players. They deserve a better game.

    You are talking about an opinion, you are not talking about facts.

    The game will generally apeal more now to people:
    - who never got Jedi
    - who never had more than one character on server
    - who like running fed-ex quests (yes, plenty of people love that)
    - who had hard time coping with item/money relation
    - who didn't partake in GCW through player generated content
    - who belive SWG should be KOTOR
    - who consider MMOs to revolve around kill/loot paradigm

    It will generally not apeal to people:
    - who had Jedi/alt/multiple accounts
    - who formed communities, either through guilds, faction tension, side activities (resource gathering, exploration, role-playing)
    - who based their identity on 2+ year achievements
    - who covered the base + 2 expansion content
    - who had fully developed/equiped characters
    - who wish to play as they used to (taking missions to grind, having twinked specialed character, having several characters to improve self-reliance)
    - who experienced something more in community than just ocasional LFG filler

    There's exceptions, but this would be my general rule based on people I know that either left or still play. Your milage may vary.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Damn forums...

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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by kyme

    Squidi I am currently playing the vet trial. I can now confirm you have been speaking lies! This hellish nightmare is NO where near decent. You should cease with your bullshit comments. It is not an opinion, it is fact this game is total shit. Read my vet review on page two of the forums. My server Eclipse is RUINED. It is a ghost town and I pity the current players. They deserve a better game.

    You are talking about an opinion, you are not talking about facts.

    The game will generally apeal more now to people:
    - who never got Jedi
    - who never had more than one character on server- Pass
    - who like running fed-ex quests (yes, plenty of people love that)- Pass
    - who had hard time coping with item/money relation- Pass
    - who didn't partake in GCW through player generated content- Pass
    - who belive SWG should be KOTOR- Pass
    - who consider MMOs to revolve around kill/loot paradigm - Kinda like a hybrid (which SWG is now)

    It will generally not apeal to people:
    - who had Jedi/alt/multiple accounts - Check
    - who formed communities, either through guilds, faction tension, side activities (resource gathering, exploration, role-playing) - Check
    - who based their identity on 2+ year achievements - Check
    - who covered the base + 2 expansion content - Check
    - who had fully developed/equiped characters  - Check
    - who wish to play as they used to (taking missions to grind, having twinked specialed character, having several characters to improve self-reliance) - Still do this in the NGE, so Check
    - who experienced something more in community than just ocasional LFG filler - Check

    There's exceptions, but this would be my general rule based on people I know that either left or still play. Your milage may vary.




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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Rekrul

     self-reliance) - Still do this in the NGE, so Check
    - who experienced something more in community than just ocasional LFG filler - Check

    There's exceptions, but this would be my general rule based on people I know that either left or still play. Your milage may vary.






    To quote your post from a bit back:

    "You are talking about an opinion, you are not talking about facts."

    Or does that apply only in one direction. I was expressing my opinion, based on the people I encounter/know/knew in game.

    And you don't fall into general category.
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Rekrul

     self-reliance) - Still do this in the NGE, so Check
    - who experienced something more in community than just ocasional LFG filler - Check

    There's exceptions, but this would be my general rule based on people I know that either left or still play. Your milage may vary.






    To quote your post from a bit back:

    "You are talking about an opinion, you are not talking about facts."

    Or does that apply only in one direction. I was expressing my opinion, based on the people I encounter/know/knew in game.

    And you don't fall into general category.


    Yes, I was posting my opinion

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  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118


    Originally posted by Milom
    My entire guild quit SWG with the NGE..all of us full template pre-cu jedi etc..

    Question is...is it decent enough to come back?  We miss our community and maybe what friends might still be around, but that doesn't mean a whole lot if everything is all fubar'd

    thanks





    If you didnt like the NGE, well its still there.  So short answer is no, its not decent enough to come back.  Wish it was, but its not.....

    "The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin

  • duggoduggo Member Posts: 387


    Originally posted by Milom
    My entire guild quit SWG with the NGE..all of us full template pre-cu jedi etc..

    Question is...is it decent enough to come back?  We miss our community and maybe what friends might still be around, but that doesn't mean a whole lot if everything is all fubar'd

    thanks





    The game is a lot better than when you left, but if you quit in disgust then I'd suggest it's still not ready for you to come back, especially if you were all full template Jedi because you loved having an alpha class in combat.

    -d


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    Waiting on: Pirates of the Burning Sea and Pirates of the Carribean Online

  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by duggo



    The game is a lot better than when you left, but if you quit in disgust then I'd suggest it's still not ready for you to come back, especially if you were all full template Jedi because you loved having an alpha class in combat.

    -d


    If you still want an alpha class, just go medic. Works just as well.
  • hargravehargrave Member Posts: 329
    Dont listen to rekrul or obraik they want to throw propaganda out so youll join for one month realize besides you and the 2 other guys standing in theed looking for pvp that the game is dead and you gave SOE $15 to stand in a virtual theed for nothing. Do the trial account for free and see if you like it then post on here your opinion good or bad. As for everything bieng fixed keep in mind your playing a beta no matter what anyone tells you.

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    We're sitting in our offices thinking of ways to upset our paying customers. I think were on track to meet that goal.

    John Smedley

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by hargrave
    Dont listen to rekrul or obraik they want to throw propaganda out so youll join for one month realize besides you and the 2 other guys standing in theed looking for pvp that the game is dead and you gave SOE $15 to stand in a virtual theed for nothing. Do the trial account for free and see if you like it then post on here your opinion good or bad. As for everything bieng fixed keep in mind your playing a beta no matter what anyone tells you.

    What's funny... is that even if you try the free trial, they add it to the subscriber numbers.

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
    Proud member of the Cabal.
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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by hargrave
    Dont listen to rekrul or obraik they want to throw propaganda out so youll join for one month realize besides you and the 2 other guys standing in theed looking for pvp that the game is dead and you gave SOE $15 to stand in a virtual theed for nothing. Do the trial account for free and see if you like it then post on here your opinion good or bad. As for everything bieng fixed keep in mind your playing a beta no matter what anyone tells you.

    Actually, I'm the one trying to keep people from resubbing. But nobody listens to me.
  • hargravehargrave Member Posts: 329
    Not really i notice u tend defend SOE a lot. As for getting people to cancel i been trying to get organized and get a cancelled list going and get people to leave as well. I made a myspace group and i have a site im making to as well but i notice that no one really wants to get organized or take soe on. They want to bitch and whine on here and be mad and everyone acts like they cant do anything to SOE. Well we can but no one wants to get organized and take 2 minuts or less out of there day and sign a cancelled list with there name and why they left so what can u do lol im trying. If anyone anyone wants to get organized with me or u have a cancelled list ill gladly sign/join. If we have a accurate true list on a site or gorup etc with verififed numbers thats undebateable and FACT<---

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    We're sitting in our offices thinking of ways to upset our paying customers. I think were on track to meet that goal.

    John Smedley

  • duggoduggo Member Posts: 387


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by duggo



    The game is a lot better than when you left, but if you quit in disgust then I'd suggest it's still not ready for you to come back, especially if you were all full template Jedi because you loved having an alpha class in combat.

    -d


    If you still want an alpha class, just go medic. Works just as well.


    -d


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    Waiting on: Pirates of the Burning Sea and Pirates of the Carribean Online

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by hargrave
    Not really i notice u tend defend SOE a lot. As for getting people to cancel i been trying to get organized and get a cancelled list going and get people to leave as well. I made a myspace group and i have a site im making to as well but i notice that no one really wants to get organized or take soe on. They want to bitch and whine on here and be mad and everyone acts like they cant do anything to SOE. Well we can but no one wants to get organized and take 2 minuts or less out of there day and sign a cancelled list with there name and why they left so what can u do lol im trying. If anyone anyone wants to get organized with me or u have a cancelled list ill gladly sign/join. If we have a accurate true list on a site or gorup etc with verififed numbers thats undebateable and FACT<---

    Noone really needs to know the size of your e-peen .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832

    To the OP:

         Try either the Start Up free trial or the Vet return free trial. Once you have experienced the NGE for yourself, come back and let us know what you think either way.

    "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  • hargravehargrave Member Posts: 329
    Malick maybe u should read better and take your own advice i was replying to rekrul. Baron i do agree with your point.

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    We're sitting in our offices thinking of ways to upset our paying customers. I think were on track to meet that goal.

    John Smedley

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by hargrave
    Malick maybe u should read better and take your own advice i was replying to rekrul. Baron i do agree with your point.

    And as to your reply to rekrul , The guy bashes SOE every chance he gets . Yet he does not follow the herd and pat everyone on the back , When they come up with half witted falsehoods.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • Ikarus674Ikarus674 Member Posts: 18
    To the OP :

    Its big bantha poo poo


  • MilomMilom Member Posts: 2
    thanks everyone for responding:)

    We left SWG in the same uproar most did when NGE first hit.  We were disgusted by the new system, the way it got dropped on us, and the fact that all of our work toward jedit was rewarded with a crappy robe and that blue ghost crap.  Then add things like the death of our ADK's etc..

    I must admit most of us were still a little bitter about CU, but we adjusted, even though we all felt pre-cu was superior in almost every way.  I'm gonna fire up a vet trial account and see what shakes out on good old Ahazi.


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