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WoW at its current state, and what i hope it'll come to in its future state.
Adam1902
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At the momant, WoW seems to be a little pointless, when they relesed BGs, the game just went down-hill... There is no longer any Outdoor PvP even existing, and Outdoor PvP is my most loved feature of any MMO. Back in the early WoW day, it was like most other MMORPGs. Where you PvE to gear up, SO you can PvP. But with WoW, when they relesed BGs and the Honor System, its PvP to gear up, and PvE to gear up. Then what to do when you're geared up? The PvP sucks. The BGs are only a grind, and we cant raid towns because of DKs. And i personaly think this game has great gameplay which would be well suited in PvP. But this has been ruined.
My Theory:
Most MMORPG's:
PvE = Gear.
Gear = Better in PvP.
WoW:
PvE = Gear
Boring Instanced PvP = Gear
- Whats my gear for? What do i do now?
As i already know, and have been researching, Patch 1.12 is a PvP focused patch.
and in 1.12, we're getting our first world PvP objective, cross server BGs, AND a Reworked Honor Systeam, which Blizzard has said will be more 'Skill-Based' instead of 'Time-Based'. (I don't actully know of this 'New Honor System' will be relesed in 1.12 or not. But i know 100% that Blizzard ARE going to do this. They said it'll take alot of work to be thought out.
The Burning Crusade expansion is also from what ive heared, mainly PvP focused too! Every section of Outlands (New continent) will have its own unique Outdoor PvP objective. (NOT just a Quest that has a silly Objective such as 'Kill 12 Dwarf Paladins') I mean a real PvP objective (Maybe something like capturing and taking-over towers?)
So do YOU think this patch along with the expansion will make WoW a great enjoyable experiance as it once was, do YOU think it'll ressurect that great PvP we once had? Please discuss, and don't flame, please. Also sorry if this is a ramble, I just really had to talk this off of me.
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Currently playing: Black Desert Korea (Waiting for EU)
Always hating on instances in MMOs! Open worlds, open PvP, territory control and housing please. More persistence, more fun.
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Honestly tho. The BG's are better than world PvP in this game. World PvP has too much lag and BG's have the whole objective thing.
Well,
In the BattlePlan not long ago, they said they're having a major change in the servers for teh Expansion. They're gonna have far less lag and Disconnects. They're gonna also be able to hold 25% more players than they currently do.
I only see instanced PvP as some kind of little CTF Arcade game. In my eyes, when i play a BG, i think 'Why not go play UT?'
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Currently playing: Black Desert Korea (Waiting for EU)
Always hating on instances in MMOs! Open worlds, open PvP, territory control and housing please. More persistence, more fun.
searching for the next DAoC....
Kay-exile
searching for the next DAoC....
Kay-exile
Yes World of Warcraft is ALL ABOUT THE PVE.
If you are going to PVP and want to do so in WOW you need to think again. 1/3 of the classes best PVP gear comes straight from PVE raids.
Open world PVP consists of level 60s steamrolling level 40s so it doesn't constitute real PVP.
You CAN handle the truth...it's just really slippery.
Most fun ive had in WoW is world pvp, im not talking zerging or ganking. Im talking about getting me(rank 13 druid) and 2 friends rank 14 warrior and rank 14 shaman with some bwl gear mixed in going out looking for challanging fights like 3 vs 6's if there under geared, or camping 40 Man mc raids because they string into brm 1 by 1 insted of as a 40 man raid or hell even going into Ironforge and camping the tram till we get zerged to death is great fun. I think just the big thing with this game is that you have to make your own pvp, of corse instanced pvp is going to get boring but you can always grab a small group of friends and tear up enemy flight paths or tram/zepplines until they come to defend them. I got pretty off topic...but ya, more small scale world pvp stuff in the expantion is going to make pvp more fun.
Please don't post 100% negative things about WoWs PvP. It was once awsome, and the world PvP did'nt used to be ganking, it used to be town raids.
I think i've made my mind up with what i'm gonna do. I'm gonna wait till 1.12, wait till the expansion, and if i'm still not happy with it. I'll wait another couple of months for 'Warhammer-Online'.
I want an MMO that has fun PvP and fun PvP. and i want to have a reson to get gear. At the momant, their is none.
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Currently playing: Black Desert Korea (Waiting for EU)
Always hating on instances in MMOs! Open worlds, open PvP, territory control and housing please. More persistence, more fun.
BG's really aren't the problem for world PvP. Its the honor system. DK's matter to some degree but its mainly that people can't get any meaningful honor outside of BG's. The risk of DK's is just the nail in the coffin, not the main cause. In order to revive world PvP they will need to reward world PvP. I seriously doubt they will come up with a decent system to do so.
I like both world pvp and BG's (well I hate WSG). And the best thing would be to have both. BG's need a significant population to run smothly (cross server) and a good ranking system(which doesn't exist at 60). World PvP needs to be worthwhile else people won't do it. This is an achiever game, people shouldn't be surprised when a majority of people don't do something that is not only not rewarded but actually penalized.
I am rather pessimistic about the whole thing. They could have avoided alot of these problems but they emphasized them instead. I really don't think they will come up with anything that isn't jsut half-ass and solves very little. If they come up with any kind of half-way decent gear bracketing solution I'll be pretty surprised.