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MMORPG Staff - Please fix the user rating *URGENT*
kyme
Member Posts: 411
You can stop with the funny buisness now mmorpg.com. We all know there is no flippin' way $WG's user rating is 6.4/10. It is obvious the rating is somewhere around the 1.0/10 range. Please fix it before someone gets hurt (burned) and trys this horrid depressing child's toy.
If you can't fix it, please reset it as $WG has been reset twice so far.
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
My letter to the powers that be:
"I strongly urge you to reset SWG's user rating. This is obviously not the same game created 3 years ago and therefore many of the user ratings I imagine are obsolete. Since www.mmorpg.com is used by prospective players when deciding on what mmorpg to play and spend their money on it is important www.mmorpg.com ratings be up to date and reliable. Please consider what I have said here and possibly forward it to your superiors. I await your response."
While i agree with you in some degree what you have to reconise is that the game is no longer a sandbox (it has changed genre) with that should'nt the old ratings be reset to reflet the New Game Enhacements.
If SWG with the NGE is so good wont it get back to its 6.1 quickly ?
While i agree with you in some degree what you have to reconise is that the game is no longer a sandbox (it has changed genre) with that should'nt the old ratings be reset to reflet the New Game Enhacements.
If SWG with the NGE is so good wont it get back to its 6.1 quickly ?
Where I would give it a 5 , I feel that may not be a fair rating . When I play I think how the game was at one point. It really makes it hard to make a fair judgement .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
While i agree with you in some degree what you have to reconise is that the game is no longer a sandbox (it has changed genre) with that should'nt the old ratings be reset to reflet the New Game Enhacements.
If SWG with the NGE is so good wont it get back to its 6.1 quickly ?
Where I would give it a 5 , I feel that may not be a fair rating . When I play I think how the game was at one point. It really makes it hard to make a fair judgement .
That's the beauty of rating systems. It will never give you a perfect score, since there is no perfect score.
But it reflects the overall opinion. Inevitably, it gravitates towards some natural distribution. Statistics, while requiring lots of caution when interpreting, are an accurate mathematical method.
This is quite well reflected with some other games, where even plants couldn't nudge the rating, when it settled. I won't name the game, but it was one of more recent releases. It even backfired when by mistake the shills were exposed.
While i agree with you in some degree what you have to reconise is that the game is no longer a sandbox (it has changed genre) with that should'nt the old ratings be reset to reflet the New Game Enhacements.
If SWG with the NGE is so good wont it get back to its 6.1 quickly ?
Where I would give it a 5 , I feel that may not be a fair rating . When I play I think how the game was at one point. It really makes it hard to make a fair judgement .
That's the beauty of rating systems. It will never give you a perfect score, since there is no perfect score.
But it reflects the overall opinion. Inevitably, it gravitates towards some natural distribution. Statistics, while requiring lots of caution when interpreting, are an accurate mathematical method.
This is quite well reflected with some other games, where even plants couldn't nudge the rating, when it settled. I won't name the game, but it was one of more recent releases. It even backfired when by mistake the shills were exposed.
I know how ratings work , that wasn't my point . WHat I am saying is if I would give it a 5 when I don't even really care what happened . Someone who hates the game would probably give it a 1 . IS that really fair ?
How can I (or any other vet) go into SWG thinking of it as a new game ? You know the term "you don't know what you have , until it is gone" ? I don't think it has ever applied so well to anything , As compared to SWG . Most people here have said themselves , " It doesn't matter if NGE is good or not , What matters is what happened " . Do you think in that case those same people would give this game a fair review ? I don't even think I would , And like I said losing SWG as it was (CU) didn't have a negative or positive effect on me . I simply did not care .
I think the BEST thing for this site to do , IS atleast wait until the game is in a finished state before changing anything or even bothering with it . Hell if I were them I would put it back into the in development pages . I think that is the only thing anyone can say at this point . It is an unfinished product .
ANd Not one of us knows for sure if it will ever be a completed product or how good/bad it will be . Based on what I have seen MMORPG looks at this game now as most like myself . Why care about SWG , right now . It isn't going anywhere . It as of now is in beta so to speak . Giving it a new review at present would be foolish . WHat if they really pull something off with all this ? MMORPG will just have to change its reviews again .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
While i agree with you in some degree what you have to reconise is that the game is no longer a sandbox (it has changed genre) with that should'nt the old ratings be reset to reflet the New Game Enhacements.
If SWG with the NGE is so good wont it get back to its 6.1 quickly ?
Where I would give it a 5 , I feel that may not be a fair rating . When I play I think how the game was at one point. It really makes it hard to make a fair judgement .
That's the beauty of rating systems. It will never give you a perfect score, since there is no perfect score.
But it reflects the overall opinion. Inevitably, it gravitates towards some natural distribution. Statistics, while requiring lots of caution when interpreting, are an accurate mathematical method.
This is quite well reflected with some other games, where even plants couldn't nudge the rating, when it settled. I won't name the game, but it was one of more recent releases. It even backfired when by mistake the shills were exposed.
I know how ratings work , that wasn't my point . WHat I am saying is if I would give it a 5 when I don't even really care what happened . Someone who hates the game would probably give it a 1 . IS that really fair ?
How can I (or any other vet) go into SWG thinking of it as a new game ? You know the term "you don't know what you have , until it is gone" ? I don't think it has ever applied so well to anything , As compared to SWG . Most people here have said themselves , " It doesn't matter if NGE is good or not , What matters is what happened " . Do you think in that case those same people would give this game a fair review ? I don't even think I would , And like I said losing SWG as it was (CU) didn't have a negative or positive effect on me . I simply did not care .
I think the BEST thing for this site to do , IS atleast wait until the game is in a finished state before changing anything or even bothering with it . Hell if I were them I would put it back into the in development pages . I think that is the only thing anyone can say at this point . It is an unfinished product .
ANd Not one of us knows for sure if it will ever be a completed product or how good/bad it will be . Based on what I have seen MMORPG looks at this game now as most like myself . Why care about SWG , right now . It isn't going anywhere . It as of now is in beta so to speak . Giving it a new review at present would be foolish . WHat if they really pull something off with all this ? MMORPG will just have to change its reviews again .
It doesnt matter if its technically "finished" or not, the point is, its released as a complete, pay to play product, not beta.
The nge is a totally different game then what we had, and should be judged and categorized as such, and when/if they change the core game again, it will have to be reviewed again to be accurate. Im not talking about tweakes to the targeting or the addition of skill trees, i mean a total rehaul of the combat and profession systems, like the nge. Yes, it will be a pain to keep re-reviewing it if that happens, but nothing compared to the pain of the people who try to play through it lol.
For the Horde!
and when/if they change the core game again, it will have to be reviewed again to be accurate. Im not talking about tweakes to the targeting or the addition of skill trees, i mean a total rehaul of the combat and profession systems, like the nge. Yes, it will be a pain to keep re-reviewing it if that happens, but nothing compared to the pain of the people who try to play through it lol.
Do you know something we don't? Not that something like that would surprise me...
and when/if they change the core game again, it will have to be reviewed again to be accurate. Im not talking about tweakes to the targeting or the addition of skill trees, i mean a total rehaul of the combat and profession systems, like the nge. Yes, it will be a pain to keep re-reviewing it if that happens, but nothing compared to the pain of the people who try to play through it lol.
Do you know something we don't? Not that something like that would surprise me...
nope, just saying "if" that happend
For the Horde!
There's a sucker born every minute. - P.T. Barnum
However, SOE/SWG has been such an unignorable source of this type of behavior for more than 18 months now. I don't think it unreasonable for MMORPG to reset the game's ratings to allow it to level out again, and I encourage them to do so.
As the authority on mmorpg's this site has the responsibility of being accurate and reliable. If the game is complete or not, that does not matter. If a player comes to this site and reads a rating about a sand box game with 30+ professions and then purchases the game only to relieze www.mmorpg.com was wrong, this is going to give the impression this site is not a reliable source for mmorpg games. I believe the fair thing to do would be to reset the ratings system. This has been described as a new game and not only by the players but by the SWG staff.
lol even at 6.4 its rated below tibia!
Come on its not that bad.I personally will gladly recommend it over tibia anyday.
Heh, was going through the original review the site did for the game and I found this, a Pre-cu screenshot of the server loads:
http://www.mmorpg.com/view_screenshot.cfm?file=|reviews|9|images|6_5.jpg
Interesting when I've been constantly told during pre-cu the servers were never light :P At the end of the review (from July 04) in the list of Cons I found "Lack of a Community - Too Few Players"
Back on topic, MMORPG doesn't market themselves as the authority of MMO's, they're simply a website you can use as a guide. When you're assesing something, you shouldn't stop at the one site and judge just by what you read on that one. You go through many sites and get a general overview from them all. As for the score, it has dropped since the NGE and just because it hasn't dropped to what you personally think it should be at doesn't mean it should be forced to that score. You seem to confuse your opinions with fact alot, Kyme.
I do think they need to edit the Overview page though since it has one or two lines from pre-nge.
How can distance to all servers be 2, even European. For me they range from I think 3 or 4 to mostly 9. But I find it impossible for all to be 2. Distance to the best of my knowledge is defined as number hops between client and server.
And I find it funny that chimera would have higher load than Bria, which has always been one notch above others, so it must be an unusual choice of time as well.
But it's really the distance that bugs me.
How can distance to all servers be 2, even European. For me they range from I think 3 or 4 to mostly 9. But I find it impossible for all to be 2. Distance to the best of my knowledge is defined as number hops between client and server.
And I find it funny that chimera would have higher load than Bria, which has always been one notch above others, so it must be an unusual choice of time as well.
But it's really the distance that bugs me.
Part of the claims was that pre-cu never had light loads at any time
Not sure by whom, but 1/3 to 1/2 of the servers were almost always light, or at least after initial population surge. Depending on season, several popular ones would be at medium+ during certain weeks, with one or two getting locked.
The last overcrowding I remember was during august a year ago.
But as I said, that screenshot looks highly unusual to me.
Part of the claims was that pre-cu never had light loads at any time
Not sure by whom, but 1/3 to 1/2 of the servers were almost always light, or at least after initial population surge. Depending on season, several popular ones would be at medium+ during certain weeks, with one or two getting locked.
The last overcrowding I remember was during august a year ago.
But as I said, that screenshot looks highly unusual to me.
I'm assuming it was taken during Euro primetime
They should create a new SWG game rating, since the NGE is not the Pre-NGE game by a longshot.
That would give each "side" the ability ti rate the game as they see fit. I would say they should make a seperate fotum, but who would post in the NGE one? Obi would get lonely, and Priig would have no one to troll, and he's have to turn on his own...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
You saying it should look more like this?
You saying it should look more like this?
Yes.