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WOW not even in the rankings now...Shame!

sayuri2006sayuri2006 Member Posts: 161

It's funny to see the big almighty WOW is no longer in the top ranking list of MMORPGS anymore...haha!

Time to send these 12 years old kids back to School...or better still come join the EQ2 world...the dog is dieing.

It is of no surprise that as better games come out and already have, that people don't care about the WOW storyline and legacy and give this game the old boot...congratulations!

BTW: How's the lag, the constant swearing and "realm busy" these days?   

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  • dratinidratini Member Posts: 74

    WOW sucks anyways, it is the most boring game i ever played. OMG, Agree send those 12 year old kids back to school, the deserve to have a life, and by playing WOW their are ruin there lifes :p

    I got two Words for you

    SUCK IT!

  • sayuri2006sayuri2006 Member Posts: 161


    Originally posted by dratini

    WOW sucks anyways, it is the most boring game i ever played. OMG, Agree send those 12 year old kids back to school, the deserve to have a life, and by playing WOW their are ruin there lifes :p


    Ty Dratini, I totally agree...you gotta try new games to see what they're like...then you realise that this game  sucks and just holds you into a false trap of staying.

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  • dratinidratini Member Posts: 74
    Yes i totally agree with you on that, you have to play other games not just one, it's to boring just to play one game

    I got two Words for you

    SUCK IT!

  • ShadoedShadoed Member UncommonPosts: 1,459
    Did it not occur to anyone that Wow players are too busy playing the game, rather than spending time on here 'trying' to prove how good their game is?

    It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  • dratinidratini Member Posts: 74

    Well if you only play WOW the whole day, you can't have much too do in your life

    OMG

    I got two Words for you

    SUCK IT!

  • ShadoedShadoed Member UncommonPosts: 1,459


    Originally posted by dratini

    Well if you only play WOW the whole day, you can't have much too do in your life

    OMG



    You could pretty much use the same argument for people who spend their time complaining about games they don't play or want to play! They are sort of like those people that watch TV programmes they know they are not going to like and then write in to the BBC to complain about it, go figure?

    If you don't like it, don't play it, it is really as simple as that. I happen to enjoy the game and will continue to play as long as i do.

    It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  • sayuri2006sayuri2006 Member Posts: 161


    Originally posted by jason_webb

    Originally posted by dratini

    Well if you only play WOW the whole day, you can't have much too do in your life

    OMG


    You could pretty much use the same argument for people who spend their time complaining about games they don't play or want to play! They are sort of like those people that watch TV programmes they know they are not going to like and then write in to the BBC to complain about it, go figure?

    If you don't like it, don't play it, it is really as simple as that. I happen to enjoy the game and will continue to play as long as i do.


    Jason,

    You mean ppl who don't play or have played and no longer want to play? PPL that watch TV they are not going to like?? I hardly find writing up on a forum board a post that took 5 mins to write spending much of my time.

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  • ShadoedShadoed Member UncommonPosts: 1,459

    Sorry Sayuri, was there a point to that post at all ??

    I'll rewind a little for you and maybe you could make an intelligable reply with a point. My general points so far have been;

    1 - Maybe people who play WoW are too busy actually playing and enjoying the game to come over here and try to prove to others by inflated voting that their game is better than others (i think that fact that it has the largets subscription base of any MMO in history so far pretty much does that anyway).

    2 - (I probably didn't make it clear) Why spend time on the forums of a game that you apparently don't like, didn't enjoy or have never even played tryng to prove how bad it is to people who enjoy playing it?

    Basically, we all know that commercially the rankings on this site really don't mean anything at all, because if they did EvE would be the one with (rumoured) 6,000,000 subscriptions instead of (rough guess) 125,000 subscriptions, wouldn't it?

    PS: I do think that Eve is a fantstic game and deserves all the support it gets, it just didn't suit me due to the extended playing time required.

    It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  • Swamp91Swamp91 Member Posts: 3

    Jasons comments are all correct and I back him up..

    This is the world of warcraft section why yould you make a post here

    if your bored of the game and dont play it anymore?

  • sayuri2006sayuri2006 Member Posts: 161


    Originally posted by jason_webb

    Sorry Sayuri, was there a point to that post at all ??
    I'll rewind a little for you and maybe you could make an intelligable reply with a point. My general points so far have been;
    1 - Maybe people who play WoW are too busy actually playing and enjoying the game to come over here and try to prove to others by inflated voting that their game is better than others (i think that fact that it has the largets subscription base of any MMO in history so far pretty much does that anyway).
    2 - (I probably didn't make it clear) Why spend time on the forums of a game that you apparently don't like, didn't enjoy or have never even played tryng to prove how bad it is to people who enjoy playing it?
    Basically, we all know that commercially the rankings on this site really don't mean anything at all, because if they did EvE would be the one with (rumoured) 6,000,000 subscriptions instead of (rough guess) 125,000 subscriptions, wouldn't it?
    PS: I do think that Eve is a fantstic game and deserves all the support it gets, it just didn't suit me due to the extended playing time required.


    Jason,

    In reply I offer this:

    Just because WOW has over 6,000,000 subscribers/customers, doesn't make it a better game than others. It's like saying McDonald's produce the best burgers....like WOW, they just marketed well but don't get fooled into believing that a high customer base means a product is good. That's exactly what companies want you to believe. They are just more out there, that's all.

    You are right in the sense that you can't believe all that you read or find out over the net. But, there is always an element of truth, more sites more than others, and I believe that not all the ratings on this site reflect the actual quality of a game.

    I think it's good actually for ppl to come onto these forums because we don't come on here trying to prove how bad a game is to the ppl that like it, but rather the ppl that might play it or are in two minds.

    My Points: - Having a 6,000,000 suscriber base doesn't make for a better game.

                   - This site holds truth and some bs about the quality of any game atm. However, with ratings, there seems to be an objective opinion that many don't WOW any longer.

                   - We are not here to change your mind about WOW, unlike Blizzard that use it's marketing to fool you guys in believing that you can't play another game (some don't play anything else) or that it's gotta be good cause it has 6,000,000 customers.  

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  • AfritAfrit Member Posts: 288


    Originally posted by sayuri2006

    Originally posted by jason_webb


    Jason,

    In reply I offer this:

    Just because WOW has over 6,000,000 subscribers/customers, doesn't make it a better game than others. It also doesn't make it a bad game either. It's like saying McDonald's produce the best burgers....like WOW, they just marketed well but don't get fooled into believing that a high customer base means a product is good. That's exactly what companies want you to believe. They are just more out there, that's all.

    You are right in the sense that you can't believe all that you read or find out over the net. But, there is always an element of truth, more sites more than others, and I believe that not all the ratings on this site reflect the actual quality of a game.

    I think it's good actually for ppl to come onto these forums because we don't come on here trying to prove how bad a game is to the ppl that like it, but rather the ppl that might play it or are in two minds.

    My Points: - Having a 6,000,000 suscriber base doesn't make for a better game.

                   - This site holds truth and some bs about the quality of any game atm. However, with ratings, there seems to be an objective opinion that many don't WOW any longer.

                   - We are not here to change your mind about WOW, then what are you here to prove? unlike Blizzard that use it's marketing to fool you guys in believing that you can't play another game (some don't play anything else) or that it's gotta be good cause it has 6,000,000 customers.  Blizzard doesn't fool people into just playing WoW, just because someone plays just WoW doesn't mean they are being fooled by Blizzard. I only play WoW because i can't afford to play 2 games.


    Just thought i'd pick out some points in your post

    Edit: Also, just because it's not in the top 7, doesn't make it any worse game. If you look at the game list and put them in ranks of order, about ranks 5-11 are 8.1.
  • sayuri2006sayuri2006 Member Posts: 161


    Originally posted by Afrit

    Originally posted by sayuri2006

    Originally posted by jason_webb

    Sorry Sayuri, was there a point to that post at all ??
    I'll rewind a little for you and maybe you could make an intelligable reply with a point. My general points so far have been;
    1 - Maybe people who play WoW are too busy actually playing and enjoying the game to come over here and try to prove to others by inflated voting that their game is better than others (i think that fact that it has the largets subscription base of any MMO in history so far pretty much does that anyway).
    2 - (I probably didn't make it clear) Why spend time on the forums of a game that you apparently don't like, didn't enjoy or have never even played tryng to prove how bad it is to people who enjoy playing it?
    Basically, we all know that commercially the rankings on this site really don't mean anything at all, because if they did EvE would be the one with (rumoured) 6,000,000 subscriptions instead of (rough guess) 125,000 subscriptions, wouldn't it?
    PS: I do think that Eve is a fantstic game and deserves all the support it gets, it just didn't suit me due to the extended playing time required.

    Jason,

    In reply I offer this:

    Just because WOW has over 6,000,000 subscribers/customers, doesn't make it a better game than others. It also doesn't make it a bad game either. ...we (and the other poster) were speaking relatively, not absolutes It's like saying McDonald's produce the best burgers....like WOW, they just marketed well but don't get fooled into believing that a high customer base means a product is good. That's exactly what companies want you to believe. They are just more out there, that's all.

    You are right in the sense that you can't believe all that you read or find out over the net. But, there is always an element of truth, more sites more than others, and I believe that not all the ratings on this site reflect the actual quality of a game.

    I think it's good actually for ppl to come onto these forums because we don't come on here trying to prove how bad a game is to the ppl that like it, but rather the ppl that might play it or are in two minds.

    My Points: - Having a 6,000,000 suscriber base doesn't make for a better game.

                   - This site holds truth and some bs about the quality of any game atm. However, with ratings, there seems to be an objective opinion that many don't WOW any longer.

                   - We are not here to change your mind about WOW, then what are you here to prove? ...to prove that in this argument, relatively speaking, there are better games out here for people that have not decided what game they want to play. unlike Blizzard that use it's marketing to fool you guys in believing that you can't play another game (some don't play anything else) or that it's gotta be good cause it has 6,000,000 customers.  Blizzard doesn't fool people into just playing WoW, just because someone plays just WoW doesn't mean they are being fooled by Blizzard. I only play WoW because i can't afford to play 2 games. ...rightly so, least you have the brains to say no to spending more money on two games...what was the other game you were going to play?


    Just thought i'd pick out some points in your post



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  • AfritAfrit Member Posts: 288
    Yes, i agree that there are a few better games out there. WoW brings in new MMORPG players and gives them an easy to learn system to play with. All i am saying is that WoW is a good game, and should not be diminished by not being in the top 7.

    Oh and that other game i was going to play would be Everquest2


  • werdnawerdna Member Posts: 14


    Originally posted by sayuri2006

    It's funny to see the big almighty WOW is no longer in the top ranking list of MMORPGS anymore...haha!
    Time to send these 12 years old kids back to School...or better still come join the EQ2 world...the dog is dieing.
    It is of no surprise that as better games come out and already have, that people don't care about the WOW storyline and legacy and give this game the old boot...congratulations!
    BTW: How's the lag, the constant swearing and "realm busy" these days?   


    http://mmogchart.com/Chart1.html

    Mind explaining how Wow is dying? The lag is fine, not only is there a profanity filter feature, I don't have it on and most days I don't see anyone sware at all. Connection problems greatly improved in patch 10.2 and so far in patch 1.1 it's even better, while I've been disconnected a few times I no longer have to wait at all to get back in.
  • ShadoedShadoed Member UncommonPosts: 1,459


    Originally posted by sayuri2006

    In reply I offer this:

    Just because WOW has over 6,000,000 subscribers/customers, doesn't make it a better game than others. It's like saying McDonald's produce the best burgers....like WOW, they just marketed well but don't get fooled into believing that a high customer base means a product is good. That's exactly what companies want you to believe. They are just more out there, that's all.

    You are right in the sense that you can't believe all that you read or find out over the net. But, there is always an element of truth, more sites more than others, and I believe that not all the ratings on this site reflect the actual quality of a game.

    I think it's good actually for ppl to come onto these forums because we don't come on here trying to prove how bad a game is to the ppl that like it, but rather the ppl that might play it or are in two minds.

    My Points: - Having a 6,000,000 suscriber base doesn't make for a better game.

                   - This site holds truth and some bs about the quality of any game atm. However, with ratings, there seems to be an objective opinion that many don't WOW any longer.

                   - We are not here to change your mind about WOW, unlike Blizzard that use it's marketing to fool you guys in believing that you can't play another game (some don't play anything else) or that it's gotta be good cause it has 6,000,000 customers.  



    Probably gonna go over some points already made after this post, but i thought that i should answer directly;

    1: I don't think that i directly said that WoW was the best game on the planet (and if it came across like that i apologise) , but it is by far the most popular and it didn't get that user base by being totally 'crap' either. As far as marketing is concerned and 'Hype', yes Blizzard do a pretty good job, but they cannot compare in budget to the likes of EA and Sony but i don't see one of their games on anywhere near the same scale.

    I also find it very insulting to be basically compared to a sheep and that i am just following the crowd by playing this game. I have played it since release and still enjoy it and even though i could quite easily afford or choose to play another MMO, 'I DECIDE' to stay with WoW.

    2 - I have no objection to people coming in and making a point on an argument, my objection is to vindictive people who didn't enjoy the game (or in some cases haven't even played the game) dropping in stupid threads. Even worse are the morons that just drop the odd "WoW is crap" or "WoW sucks" into a thread without any point to make what so ever. If you think it is crap or sucks then please give a reason for why you think it is crap or sucks and in the context of the thread. What i mean is don't drop into a thread entitled something like "Battlegrounds good or bad" and just say "Wow is crap because the servers fall over" because it adds nothing to that particular thread and in fact makes no sense at all. If you are here to convince non-decided players of the value in your argument, then make an argument that has some value.

    3 - I just wanted to pick up on that last part again. I don't ever remember reading on a Blizzard site, or Blizzard taking over my internet home page and trying to brainwash me into thinking that they ran the only MMO on the planet and there were no other alternatives out there. I think that you are at the very least insulting a company that has been very successful in what they do and even worse insulting all the people that subscribe to the game (which i think we have established is a hell of a lot) by thinking we are all mindless morons that cannot make a choice on our own.

    At the end of the day every person on the planet has different tastes and not everyone is going to agree which games are good and which games are bad and if we did the games market would be a very flat and boring place.

    It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  • GuileGuile Member Posts: 37

    Anyone who thinks the rankings is a good method of the game is a simpleton. Wow has the most subscribers out of all the games, therefore its the best! :D

    Seriously though, Eve is boring, GuildWars isn't a true MMORPG, EQ2 is ancient now, and City of Heroes/Villains those 2 are a bit poo.

    There's nothing worse than playing a game, and theres no-one else for miles, even if the games totally amazing. MMORPG's just cant work without a healthy community, even if u do get a few tards.

  • BobCrazytonBobCrazyton Member UncommonPosts: 2,117
    I take it you havn't seen the other million cry baby posts have you?
  • DharkknightDharkknight Member Posts: 27

    WoW having the most suscribers done not make it the best game, it just means it has a bigger fanbase and playerbase. The biggest advantage WoW had/has over other MMORPGs is that it comes from an extremely popular IP and already an a playerbase when news it first arrived.  WoW like is one step up from playing DOTA on Warcraft 3 on battlenet. The problem with DAoC, EQ2 and other MMORPGS is that they more or less came from nowhere, where  WoW already had a story and lore that proven successful even b4 it launched.  I believe that WAR Will prove to be some competition for WoW b/c it tow has an already established playerbase and fanbase that are familiar with the story and lore.

    WoW is also a simplier, easier game to play so it tends to attract casuals until they get to level 60.

  • BelisariusDLBelisariusDL Member Posts: 125

    wow is the best because it is...plain and simple...its fun, fun, fun.....and thats all that matters.  5+ million players cant be wrong.....
  • DharkknightDharkknight Member Posts: 27
    addiction does not equal fun. I imagine that there a quite few ppl that that convince themselves that they are having fun so they can get that next purple.
  • JRavelinJRavelin Member Posts: 1
    I just found out about this site recently. I'm sure most WoW players don't even know it exists.

     I just hope these "top rated MMORPGs" don't have anything to do with advertising dollars. 

  • machoman12machoman12 Member Posts: 88
    You see how this means nothing to blizzard or WoW, dont you? This website really doesent know anything or know what their talking about...

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  • AfritAfrit Member Posts: 288


    Originally posted by machoman12
    You see how this means nothing to blizzard or WoW, dont you? This website really doesent know anything or know what their talking about...

    Lol. I wouldn't be very suprised if you got suspended from the site for a while. I've seen you say that a few times: "This site knows nothing". Bad idea, Sir. The site knows a lot more than you
  • ThebigbopperThebigbopper Member Posts: 114

     WOW doesn't need rankings on this website, with over 6 million players just about everyone interested in mmorpg's has played it or heard about it.

     It has a lot of good things about eg. Nice graphics,very fun levelling(first character at least), good skill system, pvp is quite fun.

    It has some bad things eg. there are some real selfish and idiotic people, after 60 the game can be a grind in pvp or raiding, the odd disconnect.

     Overall though it definately has more going for it than most competitors, it would be naive for people on these forums to think that WOW players have not tried other current games. I would imagine a lot of Daoc players for example have made there way to WOW. On this forum Daoc is shown as higher ranking but probably more ex Daoc players are playing WOW than Daoc has as it's whole game population now.

     WOW has more players and while that doesn't mean it is the best game it does mean most mmorpg player's prefer playing it than the others on offer.

     To those who think WOW is on a downward spiral well it hasn't had an expansion pack yet and when that comes out..............

     I will add one more negative, if your a casual player after 60 it definately loses its appeal as they aren't catering for that very well.

  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130


    Originally posted by sayuri2006

    It's funny to see the big almighty WOW is no longer in the top ranking list of MMORPGS anymore...haha!
    Time to send these 12 years old kids back to School...or better still come join the EQ2 world...the dog is dieing.
    It is of no surprise that as better games come out and already have, that people don't care about the WOW storyline and legacy and give this game the old boot...congratulations!
    BTW: How's the lag, the constant swearing and "realm busy" these days?   


     
    OH noes WOW is not in the Top ten on MMORPG.com... WOW because we all know that MMORPG.COM rankings which have been shown to be worthless is the true measure about how good a game is and how much it sells...

    Im pretty sure Blizzards board of directors are really worried once they found out this info.. Then agian I think 6million copys sold and another 15 bucks a month from millions of others probably calmed their nerves...


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