Poll about nerfed mages-Hunters

Maclyn · June 2006

Do Hunters lvl way too fast for their own good?

And are mages nerfed out of their ass?

Find out in this poll from the people of mmorpg!!!

Aseenus · June 2006

first get to level 60 then start talking about nerfing...

the only thing that needs nerfing in the game is warlocks and even if they dont get nerfed im ok with it..

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the last thing wow needs is nerfing classes... every class is pretty equa, warriors however need to be buffed a little

Antipathy · June 2006

My class needs to be buffed a little.

Mosty other classes need to be nerfed. Especially the one that killed my in WSG last night. What more is there to talk about?

The Blizzard forums are already full of discussions such as "Class X is over-powered" or "My class needs to be buffed". Is there any point in repeating the same arguments here? Especially given that most such posts tend to be heavy on personal bias and lacking in any real data.

zeeeeeee · June 2006

give warriros a buff? ok take this new 2handed weapon with 95dps

is that enough or want more? warriors are doing more dmg in high end raid than the other classes that are only there to give dps (hunters, mage, rogues)

hunters were getting weapons upgrades with +1 dps, like a 46dps to 47 dps ranged weapons...just now we are getting a 57 dps weapon while warriors were getting more and more dps since ever 88 to 95 and legendary weapons

Afrit · June 2006

Originally posted by Aseenus
first get to level 60 then start talking about nerfing...

the only thing that needs nerfing in the game is warlocks and even if they dont get nerfed im ok with it..

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the last thing wow needs is nerfing classes... every class is pretty equa, warriors however need to be buffed a little

First off, scrap the "get to lvl 60 first" crap. Can't you give that a rest, Aseenus? You don't need to be lvl 60 to want to talk about something and know about it! I know quite a lot about the game and my highest is lvl 27

So far, i think the classes are fairly balanced. I think Shamans have a big advantage in 20-29 battlegrounds with Ghostwolf, nobody can catch them at that lvl BG. Other than that, i don't think any class needs to be nerfed at the moment. Although i think Warriors could be buffed a little :P as i can get beaten at close combat by a rogue and even sometimes a hunter+pet in PvP

theratmonkey · June 2006

Alot of people said they nerfed Shamans just because on the latest patch, they have put back Windfury to level out with their other weapon buffs.

People are stupid.

Alot of people on my Server think that Pally's need to be nerfed.

dink · June 2006

I've got a level 60 hunter, mage, warriror, and a preist.

The mage and warrior are WAY better than the others at PvP. My mage is the best with awesome aoe damage that gives me crazy honor points, and my warrior has the best damage/survivablility. I actually earn more honor on my mage in an hour than I would on my warrior, but my mage also gets torn up a LOT.

The hunter is decent in PvP, but not great. If I join a zerg where my hunter isn't singled out by any melee classes, then my steady DPS can give me some decent honor, but that nearly never happens. Warriors LOVE hunters, and they wail on us once they've closed to melee range which is really easy in this game., so there is a whole lot of running away with this class and I don't enjoy it. Mages can stand just inside our minimum bow range, and just outside our melee range to attack without possibility of our being able to fight back which is devastating.

My preist is helpful in groups as I can keep people alive somewhat. . . but in PvP, spike damage is a big deal and my most useful skill is fear effects. . . and I guess keeping a group healthy between fights. Not much fun though.

Never had a problem with warlocks. . . so I don't know what anyone is talking about there. . . but of my own classes, my warrior and my mage dominate.

dink · June 2006

Btw, if the OP is a mage that got raped by a hunter - he needs to learn to play. That's a mismatch in favor of the mage every time.

Kyoruto · June 2006

Originally posted by Aseenus
first get to level 60 then start talking about nerfing...

the only thing that needs nerfing in the game is warlocks and even if they dont get nerfed im ok with it..

@##

the last thing wow needs is nerfing classes... every class is pretty equa, warriors however need to be buffed a little

I don't know how much I'd agree with that. When my priest was fighting an epicly geared out warrior. (My priest all blue) I rather didn't enjoy getting hit normally for 900 dmg. All I could do was stand there wile he did his "I'm immune to fear" and flash heal myself. Hunter I think is the only class that can hit anyone else to 50% or much less in one shot. And I think NE hunters should die... In a fire. I thought you were saposed to lose stealth if you started an ability. (though I haven't played 1.11 so they might of fixed that.)

Personally I think any Paladin that says they need a buff cause they aren't killing people in PvP doesn't know how to play one. HoJ right in the beginning isn't going to help you win.

shae · June 2006

The one and only problem I've ever had with classes in WoW was the people that played them.

Everyone has this expectation that every single class needs/MUST be balanced with every other class. As someone put it earlier, it sucks when a warrior is hitting a priest for 900 dmg and all they can do is heal themselves. Well... Ermm? WTH did you think would happen? YOUR A PRIEST!

During my time in WoW, I played almost exclusively as a priest and when I was done, I had my full purple pixels, and for all the games little irks I had a wonderful time. Sure a similar geared hunter with some amount of knowledge of his class could have me beat fast enough and sure warriors were rough to go against and yup, dealing with druids who think they can outheal you was cause for frustration but I was a priestess, this I knew and this is what I played.

At NO TIME did I expect to be able to beat a warrior, although I did quite often, but that's the bane of a support class, when you do win it's because your good with your character or the other person made a dire mistake. The same principal goes for Mage, if you want to be a glass cannon, you'd better be ready for just that and if that's NOT what you want, then by all means, choose something different.

These people whinning balance every single time anything changes have done nothing but manage to make the devs re-shuffle and spend time otherwise needed on actual content.

khrag · June 2006

Originally posted by dink

Btw, if the OP is a mage that got raped by a hunter - he needs to learn to play. That's a mismatch in favor of the mage every time.

Hey Dink, no fooling, could you send me an email with some tricks on beating hunters, they gang rape me all the time. Warlocks too, but only if the have a felhound out. Damn debuffing demon spawn.

And Shae, you hit the nail on the head. Sure some classes are unbalanced, but if you learn to play your class, the you will be better than 95% of the idiots out there playing. Which is why I take all advice...ehm...please..no... really... send me some advice!

Deadhead905 · June 2006

Originally posted by Aseenus
every class is pretty equa, warriors however need to be buffed a little

You only said that because you are a warrior. On that note, mages did not get horrilby nerfed.. Only things that have affected me so far with the latest patch are the AP nerf and the ZHC nerf, otherwise my Arcane/Fire (Imp scorch) is still pumping out the crits like before the patch.

CaptainRPG · June 2006

I stopped playing WoW for a reason. Not just because of the nerfs, but because people were doing too much damage. The average lifespan in WoW is anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds in PvP. With that being said, it was good that mages got nerfed. However, most of the other classes remain at the same strength and only seem to get stronger with each patch, making the game more imbalanced.

Kyoruto · June 2006

Originally posted by shae

The one and only problem I've ever had with classes in WoW was the people that played them.
Everyone has this expectation that every single class needs/MUST be balanced with every other class. As someone put it earlier, it sucks when a warrior is hitting a priest for 900 dmg and all they can do is heal themselves. Well... Ermm? WTH did you think would happen? YOUR A PRIEST!
During my time in WoW, I played almost exclusively as a priest and when I was done, I had my full purple pixels, and for all the games little irks I had a wonderful time. Sure a similar geared hunter with some amount of knowledge of his class could have me beat fast enough and sure warriors were rough to go against and yup, dealing with druids who think they can outheal you was cause for frustration but I was a priestess, this I knew and this is what I played.
At NO TIME did I expect to be able to beat a warrior, although I did quite often, but that's the bane of a support class, when you do win it's because your good with your character or the other person made a dire mistake. The same principal goes for Mage, if you want to be a glass cannon, you'd better be ready for just that and if that's NOT what you want, then by all means, choose something different.
These people whinning balance every single time anything changes have done nothing but manage to make the devs re-shuffle and spend time otherwise needed on actual content.

Diffinitly wasn't calling for a nerf or anything else you were insinuating. Someone said warriors need a buff and just proving to them they really don't need one. But hey if you wanna take it as a nerf thats your porogotive. At most it would be nerf the purple sets cause thats a ridiculous step from a blue set to purple. I always felt this way when they "Buffed" purple sets, and people that normally had no problem in PvP against so and so (With all his epics) Is now constantly losing because the epics are what makes the player now is like blah. ANd yeah I know WoW's PvP is about gear and not skill, but its still BS to hear that from my friends or from people in BG saying oh they are epicly geared they will win.

hotart · June 2006

Each class is weak to another and stronger against another...so there is no way u can say if it is fair or not...even if u are lousy in job then the othe player...if u can use your char well he will still win!

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Omol · June 2006

So far, i think the classes are fairly balanced. I think Shamans have a big advantage in 20-29 battlegrounds with Ghostwolf, nobody can catch them at that lvl BG.

You do realize that ghostwolf can be dispelled right?

acrien · June 2006

I don't know, I played before the hunter-mage talent update patch so at that time, everything seemed to be balanced. I've fought priests, mages, rogues, shamans and warriors as a hunter. I've actually fought all classes but only those 5 were same level or a little higher than me.

Hunter vs. caster in general - fast attack pet to keep interrupting. I had beastmaster build, so the increase in pet attack speed helped a lot, I get mages down to 40 percent life before they can cast polymorph, but of course, after that, mages will kill pet with ease, and catch up very fast. End of battle, I lost, but mage is down to about 100 life, no mana. Vs. priests - I had many battles, 50/50 chance of winning, depending on how fast I often or how long fear effects last.

Shaman - I won, given him the first strike too, which is a big deal to hunters since we generally start far off, and letting a shaman strike first means frost shock (slowed to unescapable speed). But with wing clip, I managed to drag him around for a little bit, and the sting to drain his mana. But very close battle, both of us used health potions, he used a mana potion.

Warriors, at low level, easily beatable, first strike is very big deal. With warriors, it's generally a big loss, or a big win. Cos if I can kite one, there's almost no chance for him to win, but if he gets first strike and builds up rage, easy kill for him since hunters can't do much in close combat.

Rogue is the biggest problem, stealth ensures the rogue always start close, with a beast build, I don't have the scatter shot to escape, so pretty much a loss every time if the rogue knows what he's doing. But now with intimidation, which the pet can stun target for 3 seconds, hunters will have a easier time moving away to shoot.

All I can say is for hunters, everything is about whether you expect the enemy coming or not, if hunters camp for someone, very high chance of winning, if other way around, very low chance of winning. So there's some strategy for killing or winning as hunters.

Kyoruto · June 2006

Originally posted by Omol

So far, i think the classes are fairly balanced. I think Shamans have a big advantage in 20-29 battlegrounds with Ghostwolf, nobody can catch them at that lvl BG.

You do realize that ghostwolf can be dispelled right?

No they don't. Thats why you hear Nerf shamans and stupid crap like that. Or how windfury is broken. Windfury should be renamed to Luckfury. I've gone whole fights without it procing. Unlike say... Seal of Comand.

I'm not saying Nerf pallies, but they really want to complain about something like that they should really just say "OH I was unlucky in that fight".

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