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checkthis500
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Just tired of all the doomsayers. It's kind of ignorant to assume that a company like Games Workshop or Mythic is going to let their game be utterly changed and nerfed just because they are now the MMO wing of a larger company.
I hope all of you naysayers stick with WoW because there's no place for you in WAR.
"Oh no EA is producing it..." PRODUCING not DEVELOPING
Please look up the difference before you start saying the game will be nerfed.
And Flame ON.
I hope all of you naysayers stick with WoW because there's no place for you in WAR.
"Oh no EA is producing it..." PRODUCING not DEVELOPING
Please look up the difference before you start saying the game will be nerfed.
And Flame ON.
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I agree that maybe EA will not do a thing.
But you have to admit that their track record, in both MMorpg and acquiring of other studios, is not so excellent.
UO was totally ravaged after Lord British departed so much that now they should call it something different because if that is an Ultima game, I'm a frog.
Westwood were acquired AND dismembered, same thing for Origins. Their new product? let's see.. C&C: Generals was good but no way "good" as when Westwood were indipendent.
They cancelled UO 2 and Ultima Online: Odyssey.
They made Wing Commander 5: prophecy, easily the worst of the series (again, a good game but...)
Earth & Beyond got cancelled
Motor city Online got cancelled
The Sims Online, based on the most succesful PC game eva, never managed to take off, for whatever reason, and now is more known for its red light services than else.
Don't get me wrong, EA do some good games. Freedom Fighter was outstanding, so is the Battlefield series I'm told. Their sports games are pretty good (but they do not interest me) and the Battle for Middle Earth series is a good RTS.
"Good" seems the keyword here. Electronic Arts seems dedicated to make "good" games, not excellent masterpieces. This might be good enough for many, but seeing their particular track record with MMorpg in particular and how they have so far always dismembered studios, people have reasons to be concerned.
I do not blame Mythic for taking the ball. The marketing and customer support muscle of EA is undoubtful.
Let's take it this way: the best way this agreement will go is that WAR will come out untouched but with 10 times better server and customer support, and actually even TV Ads. the worst? the worst is that Mythic goes the way of the Westwood and we will never see WAR.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Well my problem is EA who have the worst track record in mmorpg history -canned 2 mmorpg,closed one and own sims online lol.
But lets see.
canned 2 mmorpg's? Arent you missing a few now?
Earth & Beyond
Motor city Online
UO2
Privateer Online
Would've loved to have Origin do the Privateer online.. that would've been epic... But that's the way bussiness goes. There's a great white shark in the computer entertainment industry, and it likes to feed on competition...
(*edit* it's name be EA for those who didnt get that :P)
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canned 2 mmorpg's? Arent you missing a few now?
Earth & Beyond
Motor city Online
UO2
Privateer Online
Would've loved to have Origin do the Privateer online.. that would've been epic... But that's the way bussiness goes. There's a great white shark in the computer entertainment industry, and it likes to feed on competition...
(*edit* it's name be EA for those who didnt get that :P)
Sorry they can mmorpg so often its hard to remember all lol.
My question is clearly they have someone sitting on the board of directors who thinks mmorpg is a waste of development money why do they keep trying.I am sure this is due to WoW success that they are trying again for what the 5th or 6th time!
So if WAR does not cover the development cost in 2 months will they can it too?MMORPG need faith and EA has none.
If EA ran AO for instance it would be long closed now ,but thanfully it was ran by funcom who wanted to try and save it and kept improving the game to bring in people.
WAR now needs to make an instant impact or risk been canned due to ofc EA history of doing this repeatedly.Then again we got to pray it actually makes it live!
Yeah I would've canned those MMO's as well. They're mostly crap. UO2 looked horrible and it had almost no good reviews. Earth and Beyond wasn't popular at all, and has since been replaced by EVE. I'm not even going to acknowledge that Motor City Online or Privateer Online even exist.
So EA knows jack about making MMORPGS. I'm not seeing how that matters since Mythic will be making WAR, not EA.
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Actually you might be think of UOX and it had mixed reviews we even had a reporter from this site go for the conference and he said he liked it but i also saw others say they liked ,some wrote they hated.
UO2 which was canned in 2000 or 2001 had only a few reviews as it was kept under wraps by richard garriott for a long time and only let a few ppl see it and they ALL came out giving it thumbs up.
So basically EA canned 2 sequels of UO!Also when EA bought UO i recall we all said "EA will leave origin to run the game ".But no.They killed off the origin name,got rid of richard,sacked more then half the developers(many are now in SWG and tubula rosa by the way) and proceeed to progress UO as they saw fit with a new team(and ofc the left over developers who became "yes sir "men).
Also if you make a mmorpg thats not popular rather then submit ,try improve it.EQ2 for instance while a hit was not as good as SoE hoped it would be to fight WoW.But they kept working on it and today its getting great reviews,has one of the top 5 paying population subs in the whole market and is considered by many as the real alternative to WoW.It took faith from the company something EA lacks.
Even you admit that EVE was better and clearly EA thought so too and rather then bother to fix it and kaing it competitive they canned it.Zero faith!
So if WAR gets a buggy release and ppl flock back to their old games or conan ,will EA rather then sort out the problem can it too?
Sorry but EA history is absolutely terrible when it comes to mmorpg.
My real beef isn't with EA, it's with people that thought WAR was going to be an awesome game immediately saying that it's going to suck because EA has their "hands" on it.
When in reality, EA isn't the developing team, and the game is still the same.
It's silly to just assume that a game that was so looked forward to is automatically going to be crap just because of this.
I'm not saying people shouldn't be worried, but I think it's way to early to start saying that EA is going to get rid of Mythic and destroy WAR and blow up the world.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." - Henry Mencken
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
"And what would you do with a brain if you had one?" - Wizard of Oz
I will add something that just came in my mind and actually had me even more concerned:
Why Mythic and EA didn't sign a publishing deal?
EA as a publisher has launched loads of succesful and not-so succesful games. Lionhead studios, Peter Molyneaux company, has been a EA published company for years and still remained indipendent (utnil recently that is).
So why not do things a step at a time? Surely Mark Jacobs must have been aware of EA's name and what reactions would come out of this, so you get a publishing deal, nobody is unhappy, you see how EA is.. the game get released and then, if all goes good, you get bought out.
The outcry would have been there too, but maybe lessenes and the Mythic devs could have had time to check things out so to speak.
Instead they get bought. The Devs and Sanya have been fast to tell us nothing changes and EA has no decisional power over the product, WAR will remain WAR and etc etc. But how that can be? I suppose EA has internal regulations for their employee? things like Office rules, timetables, meetings with other EA people and so on... right? most companies have those so now Mythic will have to follow them yes?
Second thing is: what EA get out of this? they are satisfied with just letting Mythic EA lead things? forever? no advices from other departments? what about that gifted programmer from the Sports section? they don't need him anymore, so it get transferred. Do you need that Content developer? sure you do... now. what about 6 months later? the EA games section really need a good one... can you lend him for couple months?
Ok, enough. I'm sure Mythic do not know these things either for now, but they will in couple months when the deal is finalized. I hope then they will be truthful and come out and tell us what changes will happen to their studio.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
They have obviously been impressed by the success of WOW and wanted in on the cake.
I don't think they would intentially spend a fortune on acquiring Mythic and then do their hardest to ruin what may become the next WOW.
A couple of posters seem to think that EA are run by a couple of window licking retards. They havn't become the largest publishers in the business by contantly turning out turds for games.
The only thing we can do is give it time and see how it all pans out. Simply dismissing the game as a failure right now is completely illogical.
EA bought Mythic.
EA IS MYHIC.. MYTHIC IS NOW EA.
So quit trying to say one company is separated from another. It's not a partnership. EA owns Mythic.. end of story.
What happens now is all speculation, but I guarantee you one thing.. there will be a big EA logo on the launch screen of the game.
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It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
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