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demren · June 2006

EA buys out companies then dismantles them, and they have done it to alot of pc game companies. If you thought sony was bad you have not seen anything yet! EA has pk'd this title and Mythic in one hit!

JMoney95 · June 2006

Originally posted by demren

EA buys out companies then dismantles them, and they have done it to alot of pc game companies. If you thought sony was bad you have not seen anything yet! EA has pk'd this title and Mythic in one hit!

Yeah I mean EA released those huge failures like Need For Speed series, The Sims, all those sports games, Battlefield 1942 / Battlefield2.

Oh wait, all those are huge successes.

Nihilis · June 2006

Aww that's cute. You're pretending EA has a good track record!

_Shadowmage · June 2006

EA were making games before you were born, they are a business and intent on making a profit.

So they treat their employees like crap, and they have released some crappy bug ridden titles to make a buck, and a gazillion crappy sports games, and closed down some studios that were making loser titles like earth & beyond that couldnt make a profit. Who gives a damn.

Obviously they looked at WAR and saw the $ signs, so they bought it. They would have to be stupider than Sony to want to release a crap game, or kill it.

I for one am prepared to forgive the past and move on with my life. If people didnt do that we would still be punishing Germany for WW2.

Distortion0 · June 2006

I wish Namco could of bought them out instead. They always had innovative sounds

Wakawakawaka

Database82 · June 2006

We should give em some time before we all jump boat. IMHO

neverhoody · June 2006

omg you damn idiots...

1) Nothing is changing with WAR or the WAR design. The game's goals are the same goals as they were before.
2) EA is not buying Mythic to interfere with the management or the game design of WAR.
3) EA has never, ever said that they want to change the deal with GW (Games Workshop) and to the contrary have reaffirmed their commitment to the same deal that we made with them. They are incredibly excited about WAR especially after what they saw at E3.
4) I know many are going to find this hard to believe but we have spent a lot of time with the key guys at EA and we find their passion for doing great games and what they think is great, dovetails nicely with our current vision. We wouldn't have done this deal if EA had said to us, we want you to turn WAR into WoW 1.5.

EA will do nothing more than providing "Mythic" with money...

neverhoody · June 2006

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Kyoruto · June 2006

Originally posted by JMoney95

Yeah I mean EA released those huge failures like Need For Speed series, The Sims, all those sports games, Battlefield 1942 / Battlefield2.

Oh wait, all those are huge successes.

I really really can't beleave you actually said Battlefield2. You do realizie that most of the people that bought BF2 can't play it becuase of the patches? The fact that they changed the system requirements from launch. I would agree with how good 1942 was. But EA really dropped the ball in making people pay 50 dollars for a game they can't even play.

flea1 · June 2006

also what does raceing sports and fps have to do with mmos???

I care less for single player garbage. Wow ea makes great single player games. MMo wise what have they done but sit on uo and adding crap content that ruins the game every time. Cancel sequals to it and ohh sims online hmm thats a mega mmo hit.

Kyoruto · June 2006

Aww,, What Flea? Are you saying you don't want to pay for a chat program?

YargVunx · June 2006

It is understandable why everyone is so scared that big EA is going to gobble up and destroy all that is good and holy within WAR. I mean, look at what they did to Ultima Online. But where this differs is in their present actions. Yes EA has purchased Mythic but they are keeping the same staff and not changing how business is done other than a new pic on the corporate letterhead. If they were going to do some corporate evilness it would be out by now and we could then riot the boards all we want. But there is no wind of that from anyone or anywhere I know of.

What I think is going to happen is that EA is going to throw some money at Mythic, let them do the work, and then slap their name on the finished title and claim all the credit. But how does that hurt us as gamers? We still get the same great product by the same great people, just with more monetary backing.

In conclusion, lighten up it wont all be for naught!

Ceylous · June 2006

I think a really good MMO that has staying power is going to want a REALLY loyal fanbase. Personally I would rather have a happy, stable bunch of people produce and maintain an MMO. With EA's perchase of mythic (just found out been out of the loop as of late) its a tough call as to weither it will really make a difference.

Good side for EA's perchase of mythic

Mythic staff/devs get more equipment/money from EA to make the production and upkeep of an mmo more enjoyable.

Bad side for EA's perchase of mythic

The creators/founders of Mythic entertainment might not get the "personal satisfaction" from having finished a title themselves. Will the creators of mythic as well as the hard working staff there really mind having a different name on a product they've worked so hard for?

Good and bad. or maybe pro vs. con should have been typed out there instead but well wait and see what the result is, also will EA's "non-involvment" of the storyline and game mechanics of WAR be realised. I sure hope so (keeps his fingers crossed)

Kyoruto · June 2006

Originally posted by YargVunx

It is understandable why everyone is so scared that big EA is going to gobble up and destroy all that is good and holy within WAR. I mean, look at what they did to Ultima Online. But where this differs is in their present actions. Yes EA has purchased Mythic but they are keeping the same staff and not changing how business is done other than a new pic on the corporate letterhead. If they were going to do some corporate evilness it would be out by now and we could then riot the boards all we want. But there is no wind of that from anyone or anywhere I know of.
What I think is going to happen is that EA is going to throw some money at Mythic, let them do the work, and then slap their name on the finished title and claim all the credit. But how does that hurt us as gamers? We still get the same great product by the same great people, just with more monetary backing.
In conclusion, lighten up it wont all be for naught!

I don't know why, but this totally puts me more at ease then I was...

Warfan · June 2006

Originally posted by demren

EA buys out companies then dismantles them, and they have done it to alot of pc game companies. If you thought sony was bad you have not seen anything yet! EA has pk'd this title and Mythic in one hit!

Troll

Unknown · June 2006

EA burned me one to many times ,,i will never buy or give 1 cent to anything they got there little grubby fingers is. All they care about is $$$ ranked right up there with M$. I dont know the age groups on this site but from past experiance the gaming world was alot more fun and diverse when we had lots of small companys trying to make a winning title. Blizzard is a good example, they started small with a few titles.released Diable,then warcraft and boom we had awsome games to play. thank god they made enough money to survive being bought out.

Ea has only done 1 smart thing there whole existance. they figured out that the average collage 2.0-1.0 jock likes to kick his dorm mates ass at a sports video game. stupid market,,stupid and flawed games!! The smart part was, it made them rich!

Now we pay the price ,the gaming market is no were as diverse and rich as it once was.

They may leave the Dev team in place to finish Warhammer but this is a company with one thing on its mind. MARK my word if it preforms one bit below there specs after release they will pull it due to it not being profitable. mabey it might last a week to as much as 1.5 years but it will b pulled if it so much as hickups and leave its game community high and dry. People will learn eventually! I was interested in this game ,,,now im not simple as that.

Size-Twelve · June 2006

Here's a thought...

EA makes killer console titles.

EA's success on the MMO scene has been

EA merges with Mythic, who makes good MMO's.

EA's new Mythic branch now heads up all MMO content.

EA Mythic now makes good console titles, and good MMO's.

_Shadowmage · June 2006

Originally posted by Drakthanis
EA burned me one to many times ,,i will never buy or give 1 cent to anything they got there little grubby fingers is. All they care about is $$$ ranked right up there with M$. I dont know the age groups on this site but from past experiance the gaming world was alot more fun and diverse when we had lots of small companys trying to make a winning title. Blizzard is a good example, they started small with a few titles.released Diable,then warcraft and boom we had awsome games to play. thank god they made enough money to survive being bought out.

no-one has a problem with you exercising your consumer right to not give EA any more money.

On the other hand - blizzard isnt an independant studio - they are owned lock stock and soul by Vivendi.

Unfortunately the cost of MMORPG's is so high that very few new or existing independant studios can afford to develop one.

flea1 · June 2006

i guess what the fan bois who think game companys can do no wrong beleive we should all be ostriches. Lets all hide under the blaket as they claimed in the 70s and 80s arms raises and the nuke wont hurt us. Hmmm big brother claimed that. There the biggest corporation i beleive. Ea/ Mythic says nothing to see here you looky loos. Some how i have no faith in being told that give me hard evidence of what was in the deal. Not bits and peices of what looks good either. All of it!! Id say its like all mmos it was wow vs war now ea got involved. Thier is a lot of hate for ea so ya this will continue till release and then some get used to it fan bois and if ea plays there powerplay after release you bet there will be a lot of i told you sos.

In the end i want proof that GW has complete control over the licence even after release. If ea trys to f it up GW yanks licence and the game is modded to imperitor or scraped. Only then will i drop it. I want a gw person to tell me thay have that kind of power for the war mmo !!!

_Shadowmage · June 2006

Apart from the fact that your post was almost impossible to read due to the atrocious spelling and grammer - at the end of the day its none of your business what is in the contract between EA and Mythic.

As for being a fan-boi - I couldnt give a rats arse about this game I have no interest in it what so-ever.

I do however believe in taking people at their word, and being reasonably forgiving for past mistakes until events prove otherwise.

You are equally entitled to believe whatever you want. I can understand there is a lot of hate for EA, Sony, M$. But it really doesnt matter what anyone says on these forums - the proff is in the pudding as the saying goes - so until the game is released none of us know what will happen.

One thing I am sure of - is if the game is a raging success the doom and gloom people wont be here posting public 'I was wrong statements', but if the game is a failure they will all be here posting their 'I told you so comments'.

But if we are going to use companies past histories as a yard stick then you should consider the fact that GW cancelled a previous online WAR development after spending a lot of money on it (I think $10 million was the figure). Thats a lot of money to flush down the toilet. So they apparently have no problem with losing money to prevent giving their license a bad name.

Of course on the flip-side they have produced crap wh40k games for years until the recent dawn of war.

Warfan · June 2006

Originally posted by _Shadowmage

Originally posted by Drakthanis
EA burned me one to many times ,,i will never buy or give 1 cent to anything they got there little grubby fingers is. All they care about is $$$ ranked right up there with M$. I dont know the age groups on this site but from past experiance the gaming world was alot more fun and diverse when we had lots of small companys trying to make a winning title. Blizzard is a good example, they started small with a few titles.released Diable,then warcraft and boom we had awsome games to play. thank god they made enough money to survive being bought out.

no-one has a problem with you exercising your consumer right to not give EA any more money.

On the other hand - blizzard isnt an independant studio - they are owned lock stock and soul by Vivendi.

Unfortunately the cost of MMORPG's is so high that very few new or existing independant studios can afford to develop one.

QFT

Kyoruto · June 2006

Originally posted by _Shadowmage

Of course on the flip-side they have produced crap wh40k games for years until the recent dawn of war.

*Touching his two index fingers togeather* I... I kinda liked firewarrior... Didn't think it was great, but for 15 dallors it wasn't bad.

Celestian · June 2006

EA did this for a lot of reasons. One is the success of WoW, they want a piece of that action. By the time Warhammer comes out WoW will have been out 3 years and most people have long been tired of the content they have. EA knows that if they can get behind WAR it will, or could be, a huge success. Their name in the game community is well known, for better or worse, more than Mythic.

tehronin · June 2006

Seriously, breathe...

EA bought Mythic. It sucks, we all know. But unless you can see the future please leave all criticism for when the game is released. At least then you can make a real judgement instead of basing it off of EA's past releases. Last I checked, Mythic was still developing the title..and their track record is quite good.

JMoney95 · June 2006

Originally posted by Kyoruto

Originally posted by JMoney95

Yeah I mean EA released those huge failures like Need For Speed series, The Sims, all those sports games, Battlefield 1942 / Battlefield2.

Oh wait, all those are huge successes.

I really really can't beleave you actually said Battlefield2. You do realizie that most of the people that bought BF2 can't play it becuase of the patches? The fact that they changed the system requirements from launch. I would agree with how good 1942 was. But EA really dropped the ball in making people pay 50 dollars for a game they can't even play.

Mine and my roommates comps run flawless with it after every patch, and apparently so do the people I've been playing online.

Seems like user error.

iCeh · June 2006

Originally posted by JMoney95

Originally posted by Kyoruto

Originally posted by JMoney95

Yeah I mean EA released those huge failures like Need For Speed series, The Sims, all those sports games, Battlefield 1942 / Battlefield2.

Oh wait, all those are huge successes.

I really really can't beleave you actually said Battlefield2. You do realizie that most of the people that bought BF2 can't play it becuase of the patches? The fact that they changed the system requirements from launch. I would agree with how good 1942 was. But EA really dropped the ball in making people pay 50 dollars for a game they can't even play.

Mine and my roommates comps run flawless with it after every patch, and apparently so do the people I've been playing online.

Seems like user error.

How about their awesome latest patch, where Clans can't have proper Clan matches because if they password their server the unlocked weapons are not available. How about how fun it is for the Commander to be able to drop vehicles on Snipers heads, or on Helicopters that are about to take off... the game is just stupid, and that's what worries me about EA owning WAR.

I have little doubt that the current ideas for WAR will change from now up until it's release, but what i have serious concerns for is the patches after it's released. EA is known for having shitty patches (like the latest BF2 patch), they change content all the time and most often it's for the worse. My biggest worry is that once EA has gotten their moneys worth out of this game, they'll drop it. I can't see it lasting as long as most MMO's last, especially if the numbers start to drop after some time, as people are bound to try different games at some point.

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