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pvp and sides...

NightseerNightseer Member Posts: 9

ok i'm new to the concept of this game so if this has been covered before let me know... but there will only be one playable side?

has that been confirmed?

and if there is only one playable side will they have some sort of arena for pvp? i mean an mmorpg mixing in fps elements has to have pvp... right?

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  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501

    yes to all your questions.

    One faction playable, humans. PvP will be arena style.

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • NightseerNightseer Member Posts: 9
    well i hate to say it but i kind of hope that before relase the dev's change there minds on the one faction thing... like make it 2 factions both fighting the aliens but nither liking echother much more then the npc race.... would make pvp a lot more doable... though it would be nice to run around and not halfto worry about players tossing down mines etc to blow up your buggy at all kinds of wierd spots...
  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501
    The fact is Tabula Rasa is being designed as a Cooperative game first. :D

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • NightseerNightseer Member Posts: 9
    yea i'm thinking it might go the way of another game :P if i'm not mistaken cox is actualy 2 seperate games.... i'm thinking if this game is good then there will be a huge boom for pvp etc so they will toss out a cov equivalent got it... grankly i'm just realy hopefull of this since huxley is probly going to be letting me down as a mmo unreal tournament.
  • DarkWolfyDarkWolfy Member UncommonPosts: 71

    Originally posted by Nightseer

    yea i'm thinking it might go the way of another game :P if i'm not mistaken cox is actualy 2 seperate games.... i'm thinking if this game is good then there will be a huge boom for pvp etc so they will toss out a cov equivalent got it... grankly i'm just realy hopefull of this since huxley is probly going to be letting me down as a mmo unreal tournament.
    Stop trying to turn a game into what it is not. Tabula Rasa is a PvE FPS futuristic MMORPG. Accept it. That is the way things are. If you want to play a PvP FPS futuristic MMO, go play Huxley and stop bothering Tabula Rasa' devs. I just hope the devs won't listen to the hordes of PvP players who are checking out the wrong game.






    Huxley: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/197
  • NightseerNightseer Member Posts: 9

    wow someone needs to go back to class and read the whole post if your going to quote it back at someone i specificly mentioned that huxley is probly going to suck.

    also, its a legit thought that they might do a cox thing as its nc who is puting out both games... its also very nice to know that of the responces i only got one flming idiot so this comunity might be a step up from quite a fiew mmo's... but like i said go to class and don't bother talking to me i've wasted enough time explaining to you how your wrong.

  • _Shadowmage_Shadowmage Member Posts: 1,459

    As far as I know - NCSoft isnt publishing Huxley.

    Hmm - I read your post and it wasnt exactly specific on what you are looking for in a game - just that you though Huxley probably wasnt it.

    At the moment pvp isnt a core focus of the game, we are told it will be there in some form but at E3 it was still a concept and nothing was in the game.

  • NightseerNightseer Member Posts: 9

    actualy i was saying the idea of a later version for another side/faction was a very legit posibility because ncsoft put out city of hero's then when there was a big pvp craze they put out city of villains (coh, cov since they are basicly now one game and 2 factions most people refer to them both as simply cox.)

    so, as you can see i'm thinking there might eather be a factioning before release to alow another group of humans or humanoid playable charecters enter or posibly create a cov equivelent down the road.... at least i was saying that till the genius a fiew posts up decided i was a noob and to post telling me to go check out huxley before even reading my whole post.

  • _Shadowmage_Shadowmage Member Posts: 1,459

    Well at this point in time - I cant see them adding factioning before release since the game has already had one major re-write I am sure they would like to get it out the door and make some money.

    However you are correct - down the track if enough people want it there is no reason they couldnt release an expansion where this happened. And as new planets are being released as expansion - that would be great. You could have particular planets where human (traitors) are fighting on the side of the bane.

  • RabiatorRabiator Member Posts: 358


    Originally posted by DarkWolfy

    Originally posted by Nightseer

    yea i'm thinking it might go the way of another game :P if i'm not mistaken cox is actualy 2 seperate games.... i'm thinking if this game is good then there will be a huge boom for pvp etc so they will toss out a cov equivalent got it... grankly i'm just realy hopefull of this since huxley is probly going to be letting me down as a mmo unreal tournament.
    Stop trying to turn a game into what it is not. Tabula Rasa is a PvE FPS futuristic MMORPG. Accept it. That is the way things are. If you want to play a PvP FPS futuristic MMO, go play Huxley and stop bothering Tabula Rasa' devs. I just hope the devs won't listen to the hordes of PvP players who are checking out the wrong game.





    Huxley: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/197

    That is fine if they get the Mob AI right (read not completely stupid and clumsy).
    So far, MMORPGs have sucked at it but single player games show that better AI is possible. With more computing power per player, MMOPRGs might catch up and make PvE actually fun. Lets hope TR  does it well 
  • AelricAelric Member Posts: 12
    I hope they never put large scale PvP in this game. From my experience PvP ruins the game as the Developers cannot seem to balance PvP vs. PvE.

  • NightseerNightseer Member Posts: 9

    basicly the reason mob's in mmo's are stupid is because there are so many people and so many mob's its just not realy posible to put out a game that works well and has good ai's, however if any mmo is going to do this well it will be this one because from what i understand they plan to have teams go into instences and have the mob's actualy attack rather then sit there and wait for you.... good idea hope they don't screw it up..

    also pvp has never ruined a game... ever.... ever ever ever... a dev that does not think before changing a fiew numbers, however, ruin's 99% of games out there, if a game ever got screwed up due to pvp its because the dev's put in unballanced numbers and probly the only reason you knowtice it is because its online... its all well and good to get rocket launcher that 1hit kill 5 things untill those 5 things are player and your one of the 5 things.. ballance has been an issue with most every game ever put out that has anything resembleing combat... and the only reason ballance is a problem now is that the games aren't coop they are vs.

    don't blame the idea of the system if its put in poorly by the dev's.

  • lemonster.izoonelemonster.izoone Member UncommonPosts: 22
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  • AelricAelric Member Posts: 12


    Originally posted by Nightseer


    also pvp has never ruined a game... ever.... ever ever ever... a dev that does not think before changing a fiew numbers, however, ruin's 99% of games out there, if a game ever got screwed up due to pvp its because the dev's put in unballanced numbers and probly the only reason you knowtice it is because its online... its all well and good to get rocket launcher that 1hit kill 5 things untill those 5 things are player and your one of the 5 things.. ballance has been an issue with most every game ever put out that has anything resembleing combat... and the only reason ballance is a problem now is that the games aren't coop they are vs.
    don't blame the idea of the system if its put in poorly by the dev's.


    I very very much disagree. If very few games can get the system right why put it in? Very much a which came first the chicken or the egg scenario? Should I blame the system that is so difficult that Dev's cant get it right or should I blame the Dev's for putting in a system to difficult to get correct? PvP is a terrible concept in MMORPG's and I wish it would die. If you want PvP go play CS. And yes I know I am probably alone in this point of view. So keep typing "ever" you will not make me change my mind.
  • _Shadowmage_Shadowmage Member Posts: 1,459

    [quote]Originally posted by Aelric
    I very very much disagree. If very few games can get the system right why put it in? Very much a which came first the chicken or the egg scenario? Should I blame the system that is so difficult that Dev's cant get it right or should I blame the Dev's for putting in a system to difficult to get correct? PvP is a terrible concept in MMORPG's and I wish it would die. If you want PvP go play CS. And yes I know I am probably alone in this point of view. So keep typing "ever" you will not make me change my mind. [/b][/quote]

    PvP gets put in games because there are a lot of people who want it, and companies want to maximize their sales so in it goes. Just like we get Consentual PvP in so many games as so many people just want a co-op PvE experiences and dont want their gaming experience ruined by others.

    So we end up with the Gankers vs Carebear war.

    So maybe we could have G vs C PvP in T.R :)

    I agree that its the trying to balance a game for both that runs the greatest risk of ruining a game. Alongside changing a game from full PvP to non Pvp etc.

    Companies should decide on the market they want to attract before starting development, and build that into the core of the gamer as well as stating openly to us gamers what its going to be.

    And yes we will get the whiners who come here and complain that they will never play this game as it doesnt have wide open no-holds barred PvP. - Good go gank someone in some other game.

  • xPaladinxPaladin Member UncommonPosts: 741
    Crap, I thought this game was going to have a good Gloom type PvP atmosphere. I guess I was wrong... :(

    This is a bloody shame. I guess I'll have to swap TR to my wait and see list. :(


    -- xpaladin

    [MMOz]
    AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW

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